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[ZR1] ZR1 Knocks 4 seconds off its previous fastest ring time

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Old 10-28-2008, 07:01 PM
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INSANE. A street car that will run just about even with the ACR.
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Rut Roh. Here we go again.

While I am very happy it made it around the ring, on run flats, in ACR time, this is gonna get ugly. Now there is nothing to blame the difference in times on.
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INSANE. A street car that will run just about even with the ACR.
correct me if I'm wrong, but is the ACR not a street car as well?
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Give the ACR the same amount of track time as the ZR1 at the "Ring" and the ACR will go into the teens. SRT already stated the teens were no problem.

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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=2168917

And it has pretty much been decided that it is a false claim that someone made up and then put it on autoblog. There has been no credible source for this time found. I don't have a problem believing the car could do that time, just don't think it happened in this case. I would love to be proven wrong.
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=2168917

And it has pretty much been decided that it is a false claim that someone made up and then put it on autoblog. There has been no credible source for this time found. I don't have a problem believing the car could do that time, just don't think it happened in this case. I would love to be proven wrong.
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Give the ACR the same amount of track time as the ZR1 at the "Ring" and the ACR will go into the teens. SRT already stated the teens were no problem.
this is getting old.... no its already old and rotted, even if the time is true who cares, The ACR did its time in 4 laps,(half day, no support from Dodge, people seem to ignore that) ZR1 weeks? months? of testing and Full GM support. Team SRT can go back there and shave 4-5 second s off, but they have nothing to prove, the ZR1 and any other car on same day same track testing will get crushed peroid, its time for being a GT car is remarkable, as the ACR's whole purpose is to be a street car that is geared more for track related performance(although it will break into the 10's in the 1/4 on 100% stock on stock rubber), this topic need to get closed it
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Wikipedia also lists the faster lap time. I wander what is up.
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Originally Posted by CORVETTEZL1001
Give the ACR the same amount of track time as the ZR1 at the "Ring" and the ACR will go into the teens. SRT already stated the teens were no problem.
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Originally Posted by CORVETTEZL1001
Give the ACR the same amount of track time as the ZR1 at the "Ring" and the ACR will go into the teens. SRT already stated the teens were no problem.
Actually, they stated teens were possible with different gearing. Go reread the article in motor trend if you don't believe that.
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Guys now that I think about it, I dont think GM would return to the ring just to not improve it's position. It's still second to the ACR, and they certainly wouldnt leave after getting that close. And the weather is pretty crap this time of year, so it could easily be a waist of time to be there.


GM is saving a return trip with a pro driver for bigger fish, and they wont come back having fell short by .3
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Actually, they stated teens were possible with different gearing. Go reread the article in motor trend if you don't believe that.
Here's the exact quote. What I take from it more than anything is the limited time. 1st lap was a 7:42, 2nd was 7:35, 3rd 7:24, 4th 7:22. Any person that is not blinded by brand loyalty must concede a substantial drop in time is 'more than probable' with more seat time and laps around the track. Especially after viewing the lap via video (hitting rev limiter, missing shifts, etc...). Imagine if Dodge spent the same amount of development time as GM or Nissan at the 'Ring.

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"According to SRT engineer Mike Shinedling, computer simulations done back in Michigan showed the ACR capable of times well into the teens, so a sub-7:20 is the ultimate goal."

On the fourth run, another single hot lap, Coronel puts down the best time of the day, a 7:22.1, slicing over four seconds from the ZR1's time. It's not a sub-7:20, but it'll more than do. Per Shinedling, "Had we shortened the gearing and had more than a day to develop the car for the Nordshcleife, we probably could have dipped below 7:20, but we're very happy with our time, nonetheless."

BTW - It was actually a 1/2 day, not a full day.

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4 total laps isnt enough to get close to the full potential. It seems the driver just settled into riding the limiter in areas that it looks obvious a shift would have helped instead of coasting, and I'm not just talking the straights.

There is obviously a lot of time on the table, but how much with the car the way it is (meaning gearing) the more pertinent question. TBD I guess.

But I also beleive there are 4-5 seconds in the ZR-1 too. Maybe when GM buys DC then they will take them both and head to head them. That would be incredible.

Jan vs Archer.
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I'm sure we will see better number than the ACR VIPER very soon.
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That's ok, Once GM buys Chrysler, the Viper will go bye bye. Competition eliminated. Same thing with the trucks. GM only wants the minivan and Jeep brands
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Based on intuition?
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Isn't everything posted on the internet true?
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Originally Posted by Onerareviper
Here's the exact quote. What I take from it more than anything is the limited time. 1st lap was a 7:42, 2nd was 7:35, 3rd 7:24, 4th 7:22. Any person that is not blinded by brand loyalty must concede a substantial drop in time is 'more than probable' with more seat time and laps around the track. Especially after viewing the lap via video (hitting rev limiter, missing shifts, etc...). Imagine if Dodge spent the same amount of development time as GM or Nissan at the 'Ring.

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"According to SRT engineer Mike Shinedling, computer simulations done back in Michigan showed the ACR capable of times well into the teens, so a sub-7:20 is the ultimate goal."

On the fourth run, another single hot lap, Coronel puts down the best time of the day, a 7:22.1, slicing over four seconds from the ZR1's time. It's not a sub-7:20, but it'll more than do. Per Shinedling, "Had we shortened the gearing and had more than a day to develop the car for the Nordshcleife, we probably could have dipped below 7:20, but we're very happy with our time, nonetheless."

BTW - It was actually a 1/2 day, not a full day.
You quoted exactly what I said yourself.
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