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Old 10-30-2008, 03:15 PM
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0–60 mph
3.4 sec
0–100 mph
7.4 sec
0–1320 ft (1/4 mile)
11.4 @ 129.3 mph
Top speed
205 mph*

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=7214

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Road and tracks quote: "If the Z06 is a steal, then the ZR1 borders on grand larceny. You can't get close to this level of performance without driving a wannabe race car or wiping out your bank account on something overly exotic."


This just about says it all...

A world class GT Corvette for 1/2 of a Ferrari 599...
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Originally Posted by CORVETTE KSA
0–60 mph
3.4 sec
0–100 mph
7.4 sec
0–1320 ft (1/4 mile)
11.4 @ 129.3 mph
Top speed
205 mph*

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=7214
Great number's BUT..most of us could not really "feel" the difference of 3/10 to 60, or 3/10 in the quarter, or 7MPH top speed

Still want a ZR1, but for $65,000 discount price on a New Z06, and $130,00+ for a new ZR1 I dont see DOUBLE the price here
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Originally Posted by Hot Z06
Great number's BUT..most of us could not really "feel" the difference of 3/10 to 60, or 3/10 in the quarter, or 7MPH top speed

Still want a ZR1, but for $65,000 discount price on a New Z06, and $130,00+ for a new ZR1 I dont see DOUBLE the price here
And in the recent Car and Driver comparison, (DECEMBER) the two cars are even closer. 11.5 to 11.7 in the quarter. And in the 0-150mph times, where the launch and driver technique is minimized, the cars are less than a second apart whereas the Z06 obliterates, the Z-51 equipped base car by 5 seconds. And the recent AUTOMOBILE magazine could only eke out a 195mph top speed for the ZR1. The Z06 really is the best bang-for-the-buck Corvette out there.

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And the recent AUTOMOBILE magazine could only eke out a 195mph top speed for the ZR1. The Z06 really is the best bang-for-the-buck Corvette out there.

Your forgot to mention the test was conducted at an abandoned air base and the available distance to reach top speed limited the top speed.
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This is a ZR1 section, how come there's always somebody praising the Z06 when the ZR1 is mentioned? Geez, I wouldn't part with my H/C Z06 (600/525) for the foreseeable future, but if I could find the right deal on the new King of the Hill, I'd jump on it. The trap speed in the recent magazine tests on the ZR1 have been pretty consistent, indicating the power is there. It's just all around a super super car for about 100K, unbeatable value for your dollar.
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Originally Posted by Hot Z06
Great number's BUT..most of us could not really "feel" the difference of 3/10 to 60, or 3/10 in the quarter, or 7MPH top speed

Still want a ZR1, but for $65,000 discount price on a New Z06, and $130,00+ for a new ZR1 I dont see DOUBLE the price here
The ZR1 is more than just about the numbers difference with the Z06. Test after test has shown there's a refinement to its handling, steering, shifting, its composure over real-world roads that the Z06 can't match. I reckon its brakes will also stand up better to sustained use on a track or twisty mountain road. Factor in the the additional development time to ensure durability (still fully warranted) and lower production numbers and the price is not unreasonable at all.

Also, 1.10g on the skidpad and faster than an Enzo through the slalom.
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Along the lines of the Automobile article that just came out. The article says "in both cornering and preformance, the ZR1 can't touch the ZO6 mostly because of its 273 pound weight gain on its front wheels". Does this make sense to anyone or did I sniff too much of the ink on the page?
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Originally Posted by surgg
Along the lines of the Automobile article that just came out. The article says "in both cornering and preformance, the ZR1 can't touch the ZO6 mostly because of its 273 pound weight gain on its front wheels". Does this make sense to anyone or did I sniff too much of the ink on the page?
That's a load of crap. The additional weight is most certainly not all on the front axle. Check the F/R weight distribution from the C&D article:
Z51 - 51.8 / 48.2
Z06 - 50.4 / 49.6
ZR1 - 51.6 / 48.4
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Originally Posted by Guibo
The ZR1 is more than just about the numbers difference with the Z06. Test after test has shown there's a refinement to its handling, steering, shifting, its composure over real-world roads that the Z06 can't match. I reckon its brakes will also stand up better to sustained use on a track or twisty mountain road. Factor in the the additional development time to ensure durability (still fully warranted) and lower production numbers and the price is not unreasonable at all.

Also, 1.10g on the skidpad and faster than an Enzo through the slalom.
Car and Driver quote about the ZR1, "THE CAR TENDS TO TRAMLINE, UNLIKE THE OTHER MODELS, WHICH MEANS THE DRIVER NEEDS A FIRM HAND ON BUMPY ROADS"... Guess what? ALL THE ROADS ARE BUMPY HERE IN NEW ENGLAND!

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Originally Posted by Turbooo2u
Car and Driver quote about the ZR1, "THE CAR TENDS TO TRAMLINE, UNLIKE THE OTHER MODELS, WHICH MEANS THE DRIVER NEEDS A FIRM HAND ON BUMPY ROADS"... Guess what? ALL THE ROADS ARE BUMPY HERE IN NEW ENGLAND!
Tramlining is one aspect. Ride quality is another.
"The Z06 is almost too much car for regular roads. On the highway, the ride is quite compliant, but it gets choppy over high-frequency, small-amplitude ripples.
Although the Z06 is even faster and grippier than the base car, it’s not as easy to drive hard on bumpy back roads, darting here and there in the braking zones. It crashes hard over the most pockmarked surfaces, and the steering feels a little less linear and more aggressive on turn-in.
The ZR1 is a more civilized ride than the Z06, although one needs to make sure the adjustable shocks are set in “Tour.” “Sport” is as firm as it is in the Z06, whereas the softer setting is almost as supple as the base car’s.
it is a great piece of work: faster, easier to drive at the limit, and more comfortable in daily use than the Z06."

It gets even uglier for the Z06 on the track.
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Originally Posted by Hot Z06
Great number's BUT..most of us could not really "feel" the difference of 3/10 to 60, or 3/10 in the quarter, or 7MPH top speed

Still want a ZR1, but for $65,000 discount price on a New Z06, and $130,00+ for a new ZR1 I dont see DOUBLE the price here
Your point certainly supports why Chevrolet will attempt to continue making all of the current versions of the Corvette.
Each and everyone appeals to the different buyers out there.
Some will insist on a convertible abd happily forfeit some of that which is found on the other two models. Others only the ZR1 will do. while others will still reach the same value conclusion about a Z06, that you have correctly stated.
All three are equally correct, and Chevrolet did not miss that fact this time around either!
Very, very, very, fortunate for all 3 types of us!

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Originally Posted by Guibo
Tramlining is one aspect. Ride quality is another.
"The Z06 is almost too much car for regular roads. On the highway, the ride is quite compliant, but it gets choppy over high-frequency, small-amplitude ripples.
Although the Z06 is even faster and grippier than the base car, it’s not as easy to drive hard on bumpy back roads, darting here and there in the braking zones. It crashes hard over the most pockmarked surfaces, and the steering feels a little less linear and more aggressive on turn-in.
The ZR1 is a more civilized ride than the Z06, although one needs to make sure the adjustable shocks are set in “Tour.” “Sport” is as firm as it is in the Z06, whereas the softer setting is almost as supple as the base car’s.
it is a great piece of work: faster, easier to drive at the limit, and more comfortable in daily use than the Z06."

It gets even uglier for the Z06 on the track.
If the ZR-1 is faster around a track with the MR shocks set in tour then what is the idea of the Sport setting?
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Originally Posted by CORVETTE KSA
0–60 mph
3.4 sec
0–100 mph
7.4 sec
0–1320 ft (1/4 mile)
11.4 @ 129.3 mph
Top speed
205 mph*

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=7214
Hmm. Wonder if I made a mistake. My 90 ZR-1 turns 11.6 and 128mph in the qtr mile with 60 less hp. I am glad there is a lot more to love in the new ZR1 than just its acceleration, because otherwise I would have a hard time convincing myself I didn't make a big mistake.
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Originally Posted by JBHunter
Road and tracks quote: "If the Z06 is a steal, then the ZR1 borders on grand larceny. You can't get close to this level of performance without driving a wannabe race car or wiping out your bank account on something overly exotic."


This just about says it all...

A world class GT Corvette for 1/2 of a Ferrari 599...
LOL sounds like a stab at the ACR and the 599...

ZR1 is truely impressive. GM has delivered a knockout to the European supercar heirarchy.....
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With the kind of handling numbers that the zr-1 is putting, how the tail doesn't break loose as easy and how easy is to drive at the limits it won't be too long before this mr shocks and grippier tires make it to the z06...

The question is will they put it in this gen z06 or will they wait for the c7?
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Originally Posted by Rapid Transit
This is a ZR1 section, how come there's always somebody praising the Z06 when the ZR1 is mentioned? Geez, I wouldn't part with my H/C Z06 (600/525) for the foreseeable future, but if I could find the right deal on the new King of the Hill, I'd jump on it. The trap speed in the recent magazine tests on the ZR1 have been pretty consistent, indicating the power is there. It's just all around a super super car for about 100K, unbeatable value for your dollar.
now where is that special ZR1 steering wheel

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Originally Posted by Guibo
Tramlining is one aspect. Ride quality is another.
"The Z06 is almost too much car for regular roads. On the highway, the ride is quite compliant, but it gets choppy over high-frequency, small-amplitude ripples.
Although the Z06 is even faster and grippier than the base car, it’s not as easy to drive hard on bumpy back roads, darting here and there in the braking zones. It crashes hard over the most pockmarked surfaces, and the steering feels a little less linear and more aggressive on turn-in.
The ZR1 is a more civilized ride than the Z06, although one needs to make sure the adjustable shocks are set in “Tour.” “Sport” is as firm as it is in the Z06, whereas the softer setting is almost as supple as the base car’s.
it is a great piece of work: faster, easier to drive at the limit, and more comfortable in daily use than the Z06."

It gets even uglier for the Z06 on the track.
Nothing that a set of $800 16-way adjustable PFADT shocks can't cure.
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Originally Posted by ivanjo11
If the ZR-1 is faster around a track with the MR shocks set in tour then what is the idea of the Sport setting?
On a billiard table-smooth road/track, or one involving lots of transient maneuvers (like an auto-cross or slalom course), the Sport setting may be better. Some drivers will prefer the tighter body control at the expense of more progressive slip. Over the course of a lap, a really shrewd driver may be able to switch between them, when conditions require, maximizing the benefits of both.
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Originally Posted by Turbooo2u
Nothing that a set of $800 16-way adjustable PFADT shocks can't cure.
Are those cockpit adjustable, on the fly? Will the rears soften when the car thinks you want to do a drag launch? Nurburgring torture tested? (In the recent Evo mag, the Enzo may have lapped better had one of its dampers not failed.) If so, then what GM is charging for the ZR1 is criminal!


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