[ZR1] Maybe waiting for ZR1 prices to drop over the winter is not such a good idea
11-19-2008, 05:11 PM
#141
Safety Car
What, that the Obama political machine managed to snow 52% of the population? That almost 80% of those Obama supporters polled after the election had no clue as to what some of the actual FACTS were and couldn't CORRECTLY answer 12 SIMPLE questions about the 4 candidates? If it was only those they showed on the video it would be one thing, but they polled over 500 people!
Yep...we understand the message. "Change" is coming...good or bad. And we're being led by someone who has ZERO experience governing. And he was elected by a largely ignorant populace who didn't care enough to get the facts first. They just wanted to "make history" and elect a black man to the White House.
And he has an open checkbook with a democratically controlled Congress and Senate to do with as he pleases.
I'm about as "far FROM right" as you can get. I'm NOT a fan of Rush Limbaugh. But we've seen it all and heard it all before from the Liberal Democrats. Never have they done anything remotely close to cutting taxes and stimulating the kind of growth we've seen in the last 20 years. The only reason we were able to do it on Clinton's watch was because the Republican's had control of the House & Senate for his 8 years.
Just a few years back, Bush and the Republicans were lauded because the Dow went over 10,000 for the first time in history. Now he's the anti-Christ because the democrats messed up and allowed sub-prime lending to get out of control and sink the entire financial market? Give me a break!
To go back on-topic:
Pelosi and Obama have already promised money to the big 3 to keep them floating...only $25 BILLION. GM's ship WON"T sink, and since the UAW had a big hand in electing Obama, their pension funds are safe since GM won't declare Chapter 11 (as part of this bail-out package I'm sure).
Those who can still afford it will see ZR1's @ MSRP before too long. I'd guess it will be before the end of March/early May. I already know too many dealers bleeding red ink from their domestic franchises. They'll need to dump inventory soon, before they completely go belly-up. The interest on the inventory (floor plan) is killing them.
Enjoy them while you can...I don't see this era of high-horsepower cars lasting much longer. With the push towards alternative fuels and zero-emissions, their days are clearly numbered now.
Now if they could only get the Tesla down to somewhere in the $60k range, not $120k...I could drive one of those easy
Yep...we understand the message. "Change" is coming...good or bad. And we're being led by someone who has ZERO experience governing. And he was elected by a largely ignorant populace who didn't care enough to get the facts first. They just wanted to "make history" and elect a black man to the White House.
And he has an open checkbook with a democratically controlled Congress and Senate to do with as he pleases.
I'm about as "far FROM right" as you can get. I'm NOT a fan of Rush Limbaugh. But we've seen it all and heard it all before from the Liberal Democrats. Never have they done anything remotely close to cutting taxes and stimulating the kind of growth we've seen in the last 20 years. The only reason we were able to do it on Clinton's watch was because the Republican's had control of the House & Senate for his 8 years.
Just a few years back, Bush and the Republicans were lauded because the Dow went over 10,000 for the first time in history. Now he's the anti-Christ because the democrats messed up and allowed sub-prime lending to get out of control and sink the entire financial market? Give me a break!
To go back on-topic:
Pelosi and Obama have already promised money to the big 3 to keep them floating...only $25 BILLION. GM's ship WON"T sink, and since the UAW had a big hand in electing Obama, their pension funds are safe since GM won't declare Chapter 11 (as part of this bail-out package I'm sure).
Those who can still afford it will see ZR1's @ MSRP before too long. I'd guess it will be before the end of March/early May. I already know too many dealers bleeding red ink from their domestic franchises. They'll need to dump inventory soon, before they completely go belly-up. The interest on the inventory (floor plan) is killing them.
Enjoy them while you can...I don't see this era of high-horsepower cars lasting much longer. With the push towards alternative fuels and zero-emissions, their days are clearly numbered now.
Now if they could only get the Tesla down to somewhere in the $60k range, not $120k...I could drive one of those easy
11-19-2008, 05:19 PM
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Change my @ss.
The Obama inner circle now includes:
Tom Daschle will be Health and Human Services secretary...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008...ces-secretary/
Clintonite Rahm Emanuel as Obama chief of staff…
Clintonite Deputy AG Eric Holder as rumored Obama AG…
Clintonite lawyer Greg Craig as Obama chief counsel…
Clintonite chief of staff John Podesta as Obama Transition Team leader…
Bill and Hillary Clinton’s entire economic team <http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15642.html>…
And perhaps Billary as Sec of State.
WHERE IS THE CHANGE?
The Obama inner circle now includes:
Tom Daschle will be Health and Human Services secretary...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008...ces-secretary/
Clintonite Rahm Emanuel as Obama chief of staff…
Clintonite Deputy AG Eric Holder as rumored Obama AG…
Clintonite lawyer Greg Craig as Obama chief counsel…
Clintonite chief of staff John Podesta as Obama Transition Team leader…
Bill and Hillary Clinton’s entire economic team <http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15642.html>…
And perhaps Billary as Sec of State.
WHERE IS THE CHANGE?
11-19-2008, 05:56 PM
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What, that the Obama political machine managed to snow 52% of the population? That almost 80% of those Obama supporters polled after the election had no clue as to what some of the actual FACTS were and couldn't CORRECTLY answer 12 SIMPLE questions about the 4 candidates? If it was only those they showed on the video it would be one thing, but they polled over 500 people!
Yep...we understand the message. "Change" is coming...good or bad. And we're being led by someone who has ZERO experience governing. And he was elected by a largely ignorant populace who didn't care enough to get the facts first. They just wanted to "make history" and elect a black man to the White House.
And he has an open checkbook with a democratically controlled Congress and Senate to do with as he pleases.
I'm about as "far FROM right" as you can get. I'm NOT a fan of Rush Limbaugh. But we've seen it all and heard it all before from the Liberal Democrats. Never have they done anything remotely close to cutting taxes and stimulating the kind of growth we've seen in the last 20 years. The only reason we were able to do it on Clinton's watch was because the Republican's had control of the House & Senate for his 8 years.
Just a few years back, Bush and the Republicans were lauded because the Dow went over 10,000 for the first time in history. Now he's the anti-Christ because the democrats messed up and allowed sub-prime lending to get out of control and sink the entire financial market? Give me a break!
To go back on-topic:
Pelosi and Obama have already promised money to the big 3 to keep them floating...only $25 BILLION. GM's ship WON"T sink, and since the UAW had a big hand in electing Obama, their pension funds are safe since GM won't declare Chapter 11 (as part of this bail-out package I'm sure).
Those who can still afford it will see ZR1's @ MSRP before too long. I'd guess it will be before the end of March/early May. I already know too many dealers bleeding red ink from their domestic franchises. They'll need to dump inventory soon, before they completely go belly-up. The interest on the inventory (floor plan) is killing them.
Enjoy them while you can...I don't see this era of high-horsepower cars lasting much longer. With the push towards alternative fuels and zero-emissions, their days are clearly numbered now.
Now if they could only get the Tesla down to somewhere in the $60k range, not $120k...I could drive one of those easy
Yep...we understand the message. "Change" is coming...good or bad. And we're being led by someone who has ZERO experience governing. And he was elected by a largely ignorant populace who didn't care enough to get the facts first. They just wanted to "make history" and elect a black man to the White House.
And he has an open checkbook with a democratically controlled Congress and Senate to do with as he pleases.
I'm about as "far FROM right" as you can get. I'm NOT a fan of Rush Limbaugh. But we've seen it all and heard it all before from the Liberal Democrats. Never have they done anything remotely close to cutting taxes and stimulating the kind of growth we've seen in the last 20 years. The only reason we were able to do it on Clinton's watch was because the Republican's had control of the House & Senate for his 8 years.
Just a few years back, Bush and the Republicans were lauded because the Dow went over 10,000 for the first time in history. Now he's the anti-Christ because the democrats messed up and allowed sub-prime lending to get out of control and sink the entire financial market? Give me a break!
To go back on-topic:
Pelosi and Obama have already promised money to the big 3 to keep them floating...only $25 BILLION. GM's ship WON"T sink, and since the UAW had a big hand in electing Obama, their pension funds are safe since GM won't declare Chapter 11 (as part of this bail-out package I'm sure).
Those who can still afford it will see ZR1's @ MSRP before too long. I'd guess it will be before the end of March/early May. I already know too many dealers bleeding red ink from their domestic franchises. They'll need to dump inventory soon, before they completely go belly-up. The interest on the inventory (floor plan) is killing them.
Enjoy them while you can...I don't see this era of high-horsepower cars lasting much longer. With the push towards alternative fuels and zero-emissions, their days are clearly numbered now.
Now if they could only get the Tesla down to somewhere in the $60k range, not $120k...I could drive one of those easy
With all the problems we face going forward you prefer to live in the past and that is your right.
11-19-2008, 07:05 PM
#146
Your comment about the past "hooked" me. Obama has been forced to hire from the past because of his lack of experience. He has resurrected the Clinton Administration (since before Clinton there was Carter 30 years ago). Speaking of history!
Palin may or may not be qualified to be President, though she never ran for the office, but Obama did run for the office with only 143 days as a legislator under his belt.
I worked closely with Congress and the White House on and off for more than 20 years. I can tell you that the honeymoon is about to end. The promised "future" is about to become our reality.
I support our President Elect because he represents my country. However, as strongly as you seem to feel he represents positive change, I fear otherwise. Best
Last edited by RBK; 11-19-2008 at 07:36 PM.
11-19-2008, 07:30 PM
#147
Safety Car
YOU elected the fox to guard the chicken coop. There will be so much love floating around Washington that they'll give Obama everything he asks for (and a whole lot he won't).
AND, he's bringing a lot of the old foxes along with him from the last democratic administration (you know...the ones who gave our missile guidance technology to China?).
IF Obama can take control and actually change the way the Democratic party behaves...I'll be the first to praise him. But when you ACTUALLY look at his voting record (or lack thereof) and see where he leans, you'll see that his statement of "re-distribute the wealth" wasn't just a slip of the tongue...the democrats are good at the "bait & switch" routine.
It'll start off very innocently, but will soon be a juggernaut that will be hard to turn. Soon the upper tax tables (over $250k/year) will be at a 50% tax rate...how fair
. Work 1/2 of the year just to give it to the government. All to make life easier on the guy who only makes $60k/yr. or less, because he is SO taken advantage of by the upper-class. Where is the incentive to make something of yourself when the feds take HALF of what you work so hard to earn?If you think I'm screaming "the sky is falling", you are correct. This is already the way it is in England, where their socialized medicine and social services are sinking the country. My mother-in-law has basically been told "You are too old, that procedure is too expensive and we'll give you meds" until she dies from heart failure, rather than fix a faulty valve. Once you are over 65, you are expendable.
And how about the guy who doesn't want to work, living in a better house than you because the government pays for it all, including his car and the gas to run it...indefinitely?
The reason we "live in the past" is to see trends, and the democrats have a pretty bad track record. They always think someone needs "help". They reward mediocrity and punish the entrepreneurial spirit, taxing him into poverty.
It isn't because "my candidate lost". It really has nothing to do with the candidate. It has everything to do with the general philosophy of a political party. I'm disappointed that in this entire country that the Republicans couldn't have fielded a better crop of candidates. But is it surprising when the media slices you to ribbons for anything you do? When they MAKE UP terrible rumors about your family to make you look bad, and gloss over (or ignore) others because you are their "darling"? Who, in their right mind, would WANT to subject themselves and their families to that kind of abuse for 2 years? I wouldn't!
We'll ALL just have to live with it. But those of us who actually took the time to study the men (AND women) running will be sitting on the sidelines...seeing if what we fear is going to come true. We'll hope for the best, and prepare for the worst.
There are LOTS of people gunning for the U.S. of A. in the world...bin Laden wasn't the first, and won't be the last. I only hope Obama as Commander-in-Chief has the ***** to take the fight to them and keep it out of our country.
I don't hold much hope for it though
11-19-2008, 09:00 PM
#148
Drifting
Take no offense at this, but it sounds like you've never made a decent amount of coin in your life? Those that have know how f'ing painful it is to have a large portion of their paycheck carved off.
Why shouldn't I be able to enjoy all (or most) of the money I made? Why should someone else get to enjoy it instead of me? What did they do that entitles them to MY money? I did that work, not them.
Does that sound greedy to you? Perhaps it is. But, again, why should I work for someone else's benefit instead of my own?
Someone once said:
I'd rather have a brain than a heart. :-)
jas (and no, I don't make 7 figures)
Why shouldn't I be able to enjoy all (or most) of the money I made? Why should someone else get to enjoy it instead of me? What did they do that entitles them to MY money? I did that work, not them.
Does that sound greedy to you? Perhaps it is. But, again, why should I work for someone else's benefit instead of my own?
Someone once said:
I'd rather have a brain than a heart. :-)
jas (and no, I don't make 7 figures)
Enough said I guess..
Just because one has a bigger bank account than other, does it make him/her a better person?
I did that work? That's the problem with SOME of the wealthy these days. Sure, without the general laborers/lower income workers to do your work for you, you wouldn't make the $ you are making.
Show some graditude.. And that's the problem with Corporative America, the CEO doesn't give a **** about anybody except themselves. Get as much as they can, leave with a fat bank account, and leave the mess for the next guy. No longterm vision for their companies, etc.. So with that type of attitude, can you blame the workers for not trusting their exec.? IE. Management vs UAW..How well does it work when you have " more chiefs than Indians", "top heavy management"??
I guess the soldiers are really dumb for putting their lives on the line for others because they want to help others? :
Last edited by CDNZR; 11-19-2008 at 09:14 PM.
11-19-2008, 09:20 PM
#149
Drifting
Change my @ss.
The Obama inner circle now includes:
Tom Daschle will be Health and Human Services secretary...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008...ces-secretary/
Clintonite Rahm Emanuel as Obama chief of staff…
Clintonite Deputy AG Eric Holder as rumored Obama AG…
Clintonite lawyer Greg Craig as Obama chief counsel…
Clintonite chief of staff John Podesta as Obama Transition Team leader…
Bill and Hillary Clinton’s entire economic team <http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15642.html>…
And perhaps Billary as Sec of State.
WHERE IS THE CHANGE?
The Obama inner circle now includes:
Tom Daschle will be Health and Human Services secretary...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008...ces-secretary/
Clintonite Rahm Emanuel as Obama chief of staff…
Clintonite Deputy AG Eric Holder as rumored Obama AG…
Clintonite lawyer Greg Craig as Obama chief counsel…
Clintonite chief of staff John Podesta as Obama Transition Team leader…
Bill and Hillary Clinton’s entire economic team <http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15642.html>…
And perhaps Billary as Sec of State.
WHERE IS THE CHANGE?
What's the alternative??
There are only 2 parties, Democrates or Replubicans. Not too many choices? They're all crooks..
11-19-2008, 09:52 PM
#150
Enough said I guess..
Just because one has a bigger bank account than other, does it make him/her a better person?
I did that work? That's the problem with SOME of the wealthy these days. Sure, without the general laborers/lower income workers to do your work for you, you wouldn't make the $ you are making. Show some graditude.. And that's the problem with Corporative America, the CEO doesn't give a **** about anybody except themselves. Get as much as they can, leave with a fat bank account, and leave the mess for the next guy. No longterm vision for their companies, etc.. So with that type of attitude, can you blame the workers for not trusting their exec.? IE. Management vs UAW..
How well does it work when you have " more chiefs than Indians", "top heavy management"??
I guess the soldiers are really dumb for putting their lives on the line for others because they want to help others? :
Just because one has a bigger bank account than other, does it make him/her a better person?
I did that work? That's the problem with SOME of the wealthy these days. Sure, without the general laborers/lower income workers to do your work for you, you wouldn't make the $ you are making.
Show some graditude.. And that's the problem with Corporative America, the CEO doesn't give a **** about anybody except themselves. Get as much as they can, leave with a fat bank account, and leave the mess for the next guy. No longterm vision for their companies, etc.. So with that type of attitude, can you blame the workers for not trusting their exec.? IE. Management vs UAW..How well does it work when you have " more chiefs than Indians", "top heavy management"??
I guess the soldiers are really dumb for putting their lives on the line for others because they want to help others? :
It is true some do not get it. The AIG guys can't seem to stop partying even when supported by us, and "Big 3" are so out of touch that when they went to Congress begging for money they were transported by 3 private jets.
Fairness to all would be a flat tax with no exemptions. We all pay the same percentage of earning with no deductions. If there is a "poverty line", those below pay nothing. Add a sales tax so that money is paid to the government based on what the rich and poor spend equally and that should just about do it. Unfortunately, too simple for most to comprehend. Best
Last edited by RBK; 11-19-2008 at 09:59 PM.
11-19-2008, 10:24 PM
#151
Drifting
Let's slow this down a little bit. I was in Viet Nam and don't regret it. However, if I "risk" and you "get paid" by me, we are not the same (not better or worse - different). If you take all you have ($.01 or $1 million) and risk it, you deserve the reward. If you "choose" not to risk, you are deseving of a fair wage. That is it. Taking from one to offset the problems of another has never been the American way. This has nothing to do with those greedy wall streeters who don't get it. The AIG guys can't seem to stop partying even when receiving publio money and the "Big 3" today are so out of touch that when they went to Congress begging for money they did still flew in their corporate jets.
Fairness to me means a flat tax with no exemptions. You pay 10% of what you earn and I will pay 10% of what I earn and if there is a "poverty line", those below pay nothing. The rest of this is designed to employ lawyers and others who simply take even more from both of us. Best
Fairness to me means a flat tax with no exemptions. You pay 10% of what you earn and I will pay 10% of what I earn and if there is a "poverty line", those below pay nothing. The rest of this is designed to employ lawyers and others who simply take even more from both of us. Best
I meant no disrespect to war veterans/soldiers, but the opposite. My point was that there are those would do it out of their own hearts and not for $. I lost an uncle in that war.
It was priceless when the senators give it to those 3 fat cats that's the "Big 3" on their private jets.
These 3 guys has no worried financially if their companies fail or not. And while some of the workers may not get to keep their homes. The other point was any executives/CEO needs their workers to do the work for them. Without them, they wouldn't be making the big $ they are making. Or they can take a pay cut and hire only Directors and Managers to do the work of the workers? The CEO will for sure not make their huge salaries. Risk or no risk, I understand.
While some higer up managements deserved to make big $, but some are their because of there friends/be friended their superior, and not because they are competent.
Last edited by CDNZR; 11-19-2008 at 10:27 PM.
12-03-2008, 10:18 PM
#155
Drifting
Maybe some investors are ready to buy but are just waiting for them to sort things out - to declare bankruptcy? If I were a billionaires, I have my check book open ready to scoop up a deal of a life time.
Restructure and open for business.
Last edited by CDNZR; 12-03-2008 at 10:21 PM.
12-03-2008, 10:47 PM
#156
Burning Brakes
Are you sure we will be in a depression??
Maybe some investors are ready to buy but are just waiting for them to sort things out - to declare bankruptcy? If I were a billionaires, I have my check book open ready to scoop up a deal of a life time.
Restructure and open for business.
Maybe some investors are ready to buy but are just waiting for them to sort things out - to declare bankruptcy? If I were a billionaires, I have my check book open ready to scoop up a deal of a life time.
Restructure and open for business.
That's what we need. A bunch of foreign billionaires buying the big three. Just what happened when Daimler_Chrysler merged. I don't want to go down that road. Bailing them out to keep foreign investors out makes more sense than flirting with the possibility of depression. We will see.
My concern is if they do file for reorganization, will that stimulate people to buy their product. Or will they still be leery that ultimately in time they will go bankrupt and there will be no way to get service or parts for the cars.
Who knows what will happen? I don't like big government and I don't like depression. All I know is that the last depression needed WW2 for us to recover. Lets not do that again....
cheers!
12-12-2008, 04:31 PM
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What, that the Obama political machine managed to snow 52% of the population? That almost 80% of those Obama supporters polled after the election had no clue as to what some of the actual FACTS were and couldn't CORRECTLY answer 12 SIMPLE questions about the 4 candidates? If it was only those they showed on the video it would be one thing, but they polled over 500 people!
Yep...we understand the message. "Change" is coming...good or bad. And we're being led by someone who has ZERO experience governing. And he was elected by a largely ignorant populace who didn't care enough to get the facts first. They just wanted to "make history" and elect a black man to the White House.
And he has an open checkbook with a democratically controlled Congress and Senate to do with as he pleases.
I'm about as "far FROM right" as you can get. I'm NOT a fan of Rush Limbaugh. But we've seen it all and heard it all before from the Liberal Democrats. Never have they done anything remotely close to cutting taxes and stimulating the kind of growth we've seen in the last 20 years. The only reason we were able to do it on Clinton's watch was because the Republican's had control of the House & Senate for his 8 years.
Just a few years back, Bush and the Republicans were lauded because the Dow went over 10,000 for the first time in history. Now he's the anti-Christ because the democrats messed up and allowed sub-prime lending to get out of control and sink the entire financial market? Give me a break!
To go back on-topic:
Pelosi and Obama have already promised money to the big 3 to keep them floating...only $25 BILLION. GM's ship WON"T sink, and since the UAW had a big hand in electing Obama, their pension funds are safe since GM won't declare Chapter 11 (as part of this bail-out package I'm sure).
Those who can still afford it will see ZR1's @ MSRP before too long. I'd guess it will be before the end of March/early May. I already know too many dealers bleeding red ink from their domestic franchises. They'll need to dump inventory soon, before they completely go belly-up. The interest on the inventory (floor plan) is killing them.
Enjoy them while you can...I don't see this era of high-horsepower cars lasting much longer. With the push towards alternative fuels and zero-emissions, their days are clearly numbered now.
Now if they could only get the Tesla down to somewhere in the $60k range, not $120k...I could drive one of those easy
Yep...we understand the message. "Change" is coming...good or bad. And we're being led by someone who has ZERO experience governing. And he was elected by a largely ignorant populace who didn't care enough to get the facts first. They just wanted to "make history" and elect a black man to the White House.
And he has an open checkbook with a democratically controlled Congress and Senate to do with as he pleases.
I'm about as "far FROM right" as you can get. I'm NOT a fan of Rush Limbaugh. But we've seen it all and heard it all before from the Liberal Democrats. Never have they done anything remotely close to cutting taxes and stimulating the kind of growth we've seen in the last 20 years. The only reason we were able to do it on Clinton's watch was because the Republican's had control of the House & Senate for his 8 years.
Just a few years back, Bush and the Republicans were lauded because the Dow went over 10,000 for the first time in history. Now he's the anti-Christ because the democrats messed up and allowed sub-prime lending to get out of control and sink the entire financial market? Give me a break!
To go back on-topic:
Pelosi and Obama have already promised money to the big 3 to keep them floating...only $25 BILLION. GM's ship WON"T sink, and since the UAW had a big hand in electing Obama, their pension funds are safe since GM won't declare Chapter 11 (as part of this bail-out package I'm sure).
Those who can still afford it will see ZR1's @ MSRP before too long. I'd guess it will be before the end of March/early May. I already know too many dealers bleeding red ink from their domestic franchises. They'll need to dump inventory soon, before they completely go belly-up. The interest on the inventory (floor plan) is killing them.
Enjoy them while you can...I don't see this era of high-horsepower cars lasting much longer. With the push towards alternative fuels and zero-emissions, their days are clearly numbered now.
Now if they could only get the Tesla down to somewhere in the $60k range, not $120k...I could drive one of those easy
http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/11/news...ion=2008121119
12-12-2008, 04:39 PM
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Enough said I guess..
Just because one has a bigger bank account than other, does it make him/her a better person?
I did that work? That's the problem with SOME of the wealthy these days. Sure, without the general laborers/lower income workers to do your work for you, you wouldn't make the $ you are making. Show some graditude.. And that's the problem with Corporative America, the CEO doesn't give a **** about anybody except themselves. Get as much as they can, leave with a fat bank account, and leave the mess for the next guy. No longterm vision for their companies, etc.. So with that type of attitude, can you blame the workers for not trusting their exec.? IE. Management vs UAW..
How well does it work when you have " more chiefs than Indians", "top heavy management"??
I guess the soldiers are really dumb for putting their lives on the line for others because they want to help others? :
Just because one has a bigger bank account than other, does it make him/her a better person?
I did that work? That's the problem with SOME of the wealthy these days. Sure, without the general laborers/lower income workers to do your work for you, you wouldn't make the $ you are making.
Show some graditude.. And that's the problem with Corporative America, the CEO doesn't give a **** about anybody except themselves. Get as much as they can, leave with a fat bank account, and leave the mess for the next guy. No longterm vision for their companies, etc.. So with that type of attitude, can you blame the workers for not trusting their exec.? IE. Management vs UAW..How well does it work when you have " more chiefs than Indians", "top heavy management"??
I guess the soldiers are really dumb for putting their lives on the line for others because they want to help others? :
updated 2:00 p.m. ET, Sun., Nov. 30, 2008
CHICAGO - Dave Tiderman wondered if the decimal point was in the wrong place when he opened his $35,000 company bonus. Jose Rojas saw his $10,000 check and thought, "That can't be right."
Valentin Dima watched co-workers breaking down in tears over their bonus checks and didn't trust his emotions. He drove home first, then opened his envelope: $33,000.
Year-end bonuses are rare these days. Rarer
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27958458
