[ZR1] Zr1 vs lp640 vs sl65 black vs srt10
01-26-2009, 04:35 PM
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Viper coupe is amazing.
Car and Driver posted a video and review running the Dodge Viper, Chevrolet Corvette ZR1, Lamborghini Murciélago, and Mercedes SL65 AMG Black Series running heads up. Here is a summary of their performance results:
2008 Dodge Viper Coupe
1/4 mile: 11.8 @ 128 MPH
0-60 MPH: 3.6
0-150 MPH: 16.4
2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
1/4 mile: 11.7 @ 127 MPH
0-60 MPH: 3.6
0-150 MPH: 17.1
2009 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series
1/4 mile: 11.7 @ 126 MPH
0-60 MPH: 3.6
0-150 MPH: 17.9
Lamborghini Murciélago LP640
1/4 mile: 11.5 @ 127 MPH
0-60 MPH: 3.2
0-150 MPH: N/A
The most interesting matchup here is the Viper and the ZR1, this appears to be the first time they have been tested together. While the ZR1 won the 1/4 mile race, the Viper appears to have more top end pulling power, trapping higher in the 1/4 mile, and further extending the lead, beating the ZR1 to 150 MPH by 7/10th of a second. In the end, it’s a drivers race with the Viper and ZR1, both are very fast and amazing performers, although ultimately Car and Driver awarded the ZR1 first place and the Viper 4th place. Check out the video below as well as the link to the full article:
Car and Driver posted a video and review running the Dodge Viper, Chevrolet Corvette ZR1, Lamborghini Murciélago, and Mercedes SL65 AMG Black Series running heads up. Here is a summary of their performance results:
2008 Dodge Viper Coupe
1/4 mile: 11.8 @ 128 MPH
0-60 MPH: 3.6
0-150 MPH: 16.4
2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
1/4 mile: 11.7 @ 127 MPH
0-60 MPH: 3.6
0-150 MPH: 17.1
2009 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series
1/4 mile: 11.7 @ 126 MPH
0-60 MPH: 3.6
0-150 MPH: 17.9
Lamborghini Murciélago LP640
1/4 mile: 11.5 @ 127 MPH
0-60 MPH: 3.2
0-150 MPH: N/A
The most interesting matchup here is the Viper and the ZR1, this appears to be the first time they have been tested together. While the ZR1 won the 1/4 mile race, the Viper appears to have more top end pulling power, trapping higher in the 1/4 mile, and further extending the lead, beating the ZR1 to 150 MPH by 7/10th of a second. In the end, it’s a drivers race with the Viper and ZR1, both are very fast and amazing performers, although ultimately Car and Driver awarded the ZR1 first place and the Viper 4th place. Check out the video below as well as the link to the full article:
01-26-2009, 04:50 PM
#42
Le Mans Master
01-26-2009, 07:11 PM
#43
Drifting
If you guys think 0-150 MPH test if fast enough, check out the European test standard of these fast cars tested from 0-300KPH (186MPH). The ZR1 test result was just added in about a week ago. Im amazed how the 997 GT2 and Ford GT is right up there with the ZR1, with a lot less HP too.
http://www.fastestlaps.com/
http://www.fastestlaps.com/
Last edited by DJackman; 01-26-2009 at 07:20 PM.
01-26-2009, 07:54 PM
#44
Burning Brakes
If you guys think 0-150 MPH test if fast enough, check out the European test standard of these fast cars tested from 0-300KPH (186MPH). The ZR1 test result was just added in about a week ago. Im amazed how the 997 GT2 and Ford GT is right up there with the ZR1, with a lot less HP too.
http://www.fastestlaps.com/
http://www.fastestlaps.com/
viper acr 0-300kph= ?
zr1 0-300kph= 32.6
01-26-2009, 09:08 PM
#45
Instructor
I believe a Malu59RT has a stock 08 Viper and has raced a intake/tuned C6Z06 and he lost to the Z06. Maybe the Viper owner can chime in on that experience?
But anywho, even if the Z06 with an intake and a tune can run with an 08, that is at least 30 rwhp above a stock Z06. I am just saying that it is not fair to compare a modified Z06 vs. a stock Viper. Put a set of headers and an intake on the Viper and compare apples to apples, and the Viper will be ahead again.
For the millionth time, while the Viper is the better looking/faster car than the Z06, the Z06 is the more comfrotable/better daily driver. Buy what suits you best and move on.
But anywho, even if the Z06 with an intake and a tune can run with an 08, that is at least 30 rwhp above a stock Z06. I am just saying that it is not fair to compare a modified Z06 vs. a stock Viper. Put a set of headers and an intake on the Viper and compare apples to apples, and the Viper will be ahead again.
For the millionth time, while the Viper is the better looking/faster car than the Z06, the Z06 is the more comfrotable/better daily driver. Buy what suits you best and move on.
I think we are going to see Viper and ZR1 swapping acceleration titles in mag tests. Owner vs Owner on highway pulls will settle this. I love the Viper and Vette but my money will be on the ZR1 to win if they go longer than 150mph like a 60-180 burst. Im surprised it hasnt happened yet as they both have been on the road for a bit now.
01-26-2009, 10:31 PM
#46
I saw this video...I thought the Viper won and not the tuned, i/e Z06. One I saw had the Viper pulling pretty good on that Z06 in one race. Could have been driver though as those two beasts were pretty closely matched up to a point. It was only till upper digits that the Viper started to assert itself it appeared.
I think we are going to see Viper and ZR1 swapping acceleration titles in mag tests. Owner vs Owner on highway pulls will settle this. I love the Viper and Vette but my money will be on the ZR1 to win if they go longer than 150mph like a 60-180 burst. Im surprised it hasnt happened yet as they both have been on the road for a bit now.
I think we are going to see Viper and ZR1 swapping acceleration titles in mag tests. Owner vs Owner on highway pulls will settle this. I love the Viper and Vette but my money will be on the ZR1 to win if they go longer than 150mph like a 60-180 burst. Im surprised it hasnt happened yet as they both have been on the road for a bit now.
This is from what I recall, but I may be wrong. Maybe Malu can chime in and as well the Vet owner (427Z)
01-27-2009, 08:08 PM
#47
Team Owner
The Gallardo has come a long way in only a few years!!
Overall, it makes it's big brother the Murcie a bit unnecessary and overweight, although the Murcie used to have a huge straight line advantage. No more...
01-27-2009, 08:14 PM
#48
Team Owner
viper acr 0-300kph= ? NEVER
I've read that it tops out somewhere around 165 mph or so due to massive downforce. Must be alot to rob 40 mph! Then again, the ACR truly SMOKES the road course and every car it's met so far----Porsche GT2, Z06 with ease, GTR, et al.
I've read that it tops out somewhere around 165 mph or so due to massive downforce. Must be alot to rob 40 mph! Then again, the ACR truly SMOKES the road course and every car it's met so far----Porsche GT2, Z06 with ease, GTR, et al.
01-27-2009, 08:16 PM
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Melting Slicks
hard to imagine that the ZR1 wins by 14 seconds to 300 kph when the 1/4 mile was essentially a tie. Does the viper have poor aerodynamics slowing it down? I know the drag on the ZR has come into question when its 0-300 kph time was bested by one of the higher end porche models.
01-28-2009, 01:20 AM
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01-28-2009, 07:29 PM
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I know what video you are talking about. That was Malu racing his buddy in the Vet. It turned out that the Vet had some issues that night and later got them fixed (at least this was according to the Vet owner). Later on, someone posted a video of a stock Z06 beating a stock Viper, and Malu called out any stock, lightly modded Z06. A local guy with an intake and tune agreed on his call out, they raced, and the Z06 won.
This is from what I recall, but I may be wrong. Maybe Malu can chime in and as well the Vet owner (427Z)
This is from what I recall, but I may be wrong. Maybe Malu can chime in and as well the Vet owner (427Z)
Gotcha...didnt know they ran again and that the Vette had problems that night.
01-28-2009, 07:36 PM
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01-28-2009, 08:22 PM
#53
I've raced 2 LP640s in my Z06 and we're dead even. I run consistent 11.2-11.4@127s in mine. There's no way an LP 640 will even hang with a ZR1. They just had some retard that can't launch a rear wheel drive car do the driving. He used the launch control on the LP640 and then smoked the tires to 90 in the ZR1 I am sure.
01-28-2009, 11:10 PM
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I believe the ZR1 vs. Viper 0-150 numbers may be a bit misleading. In that same issue, in the letters section, a reader asked why the ZR1 beat the Z06 to 140 by 1.6 seconds but was less than a second ahead at 150, and they pointed out the ZR1 required an extra shift to hit 150, while the Z06 could hit 150 in fourth. (Don't quote me on exact numbers...going on memory.)
This same thing may apply to the ZR1 vs. Viper. I don't know about the Viper's gearing, but they did say that fifth and sixth was geared for interplanetary travel, so I'm thinking it hits 150 in fourth. Since C/D lifts when they shift, this could account for how the Viper beats it to 150.
Not making any excuses here, I am light years from affording either. Just pointing out what I read in the articles.
This same thing may apply to the ZR1 vs. Viper. I don't know about the Viper's gearing, but they did say that fifth and sixth was geared for interplanetary travel, so I'm thinking it hits 150 in fourth. Since C/D lifts when they shift, this could account for how the Viper beats it to 150.
Not making any excuses here, I am light years from affording either. Just pointing out what I read in the articles.
01-29-2009, 05:36 AM
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I believe the ZR1 vs. Viper 0-150 numbers may be a bit misleading. In that same issue, in the letters section, a reader asked why the ZR1 beat the Z06 to 140 by 1.6 seconds but was less than a second ahead at 150, and they pointed out the ZR1 required an extra shift to hit 150, while the Z06 could hit 150 in fourth. (Don't quote me on exact numbers...going on memory.)
This same thing may apply to the ZR1 vs. Viper. I don't know about the Viper's gearing, but they did say that fifth and sixth was geared for interplanetary travel, so I'm thinking it hits 150 in fourth. Since C/D lifts when they shift, this could account for how the Viper beats it to 150.
Not making any excuses here, I am light years from affording either. Just pointing out what I read in the articles.
This same thing may apply to the ZR1 vs. Viper. I don't know about the Viper's gearing, but they did say that fifth and sixth was geared for interplanetary travel, so I'm thinking it hits 150 in fourth. Since C/D lifts when they shift, this could account for how the Viper beats it to 150.
Not making any excuses here, I am light years from affording either. Just pointing out what I read in the articles.
01-29-2009, 03:17 PM
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01-29-2009, 03:31 PM
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Despite the huge price tag, those SL 65 black series are pretty sweet. With just a tune(TT V12) they will easily be the fastest 1/4 in the LP640, Viper, ZR1, SL category - I do believe their transmission has a torque limiter on it though.
If I had the money for the MSRPs I'd still get the ZR1 especially bc the ACR is so much better than the regular viper.
If I had the money for the MSRPs I'd still get the ZR1 especially bc the ACR is so much better than the regular viper.
01-29-2009, 09:27 PM
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I would like to see the cars (Viper, ZR1 & Z06) run closer to apples to apples. You can not lighten the Viper, but you could put similar gears in it. I wonder how the numbers would be then. I know some would call this a mod & I guess it is. It would then have to shift again but I would think that would not be a problem.
01-30-2009, 06:01 PM
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If you guys think 0-150 MPH test if fast enough, check out the European test standard of these fast cars tested from 0-300KPH (186MPH). The ZR1 test result was just added in about a week ago. Im amazed how the 997 GT2 and Ford GT is right up there with the ZR1, with a lot less HP too.
http://www.fastestlaps.com/
http://www.fastestlaps.com/