[Z06] interesting TPMS info
#1
Melting Slicks
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interesting TPMS info
apparently you can reset the tpms without the tool. i found this on another gm site and since mine are programmed i cannot try it but if someone is in a bind and wants to try it and let us know if it works that would be great! apparently you can trigger the sensor by dropping the air psi while the TPMS is in learn mode.
Each TPMS sensor has a unique identification code.
Any time you rotate your vehicle's tires or replace one
or more of the TPMS sensors, the identification codes
will need to be matched to the new tire/wheel position.
The sensors are matched to the tire/wheel positions in
the following order: driver side front tire, passenger side
front tire, passenger side rear tire, and driver side rear
tire using a TPMS diagnostic tool. See your dealer for
service.
The TPMS sensors can also be matched to each tire/
wheel position by increasing or decreasing the tire's air
pressure. If increasing the tire's air pressure, do not
exceed the maximum inflation pressure indicated on the
tire's sidewall.
To decrease air-pressure out of a tire you can use the
pointed end of the valve cap, a pencil-style air pressure
gauge, or a key.
You have two minutes to match the first tire/wheel
position, and five minutes overall to match all four tire/
wheel positions. If it takes longer than two minutes, to
match the first tire and wheel, or more than five minutes
to match all four tire and wheel positions the matching
process stops and you need to start over.
The TPMS sensor matching process is outlined below:
1. Set the parking brake.
2. Turn the ignition switch to ON/RUN with the
engine off.
3. Press the Remote Keyless Entry (RKE)
transmitter's LOCK and UNLOCK buttons at the
same time for approximately five seconds. The
horn sounds twice to signal the receiver is in
relearn mode and TIRE LEARNING ACTIVE
message displays on the DIC screen.
If your vehicle does not have RKE, press the
Driver Information Center (DIC) vehicle information
button until the PRESS V TO RELEARN TIRE
POSITIONS message displays. The horn sounds
twice to signal the receiver is in relearn mode and
TIRE LEARNING ACTIVE message displays on
the DIC screen.
If your vehicle does not have RKE or DIC buttons,
press the trip odometer reset stem located on the
instrument panel cluster until the PRESS V TO
RELEARN TIRE POSITIONS message displays.
The horn sounds twice to signal the receiver is in
relearn mode and TIRE LEARNING ACTIVE
message displays on the DIC screen.
4. Start with the driver side front tire.
5. Remove the valve cap from the valve cap stem.
Activate the TPMS sensor by increasing or
decreasing the tire's air pressure for five seconds,
or until a horn chirp sounds. The horn chirp, which
may take up to 30 seconds to sound, confirms that
the sensor identification code has been matched to
this tire and wheel position.
6. Proceed to the passenger side front tire, and
repeat the procedure in Step 5.
7. Proceed to the passenger side rear tire, and repeat
the procedure in Step 5.
8. Proceed to the driver side rear tire, and repeat the
procedure in Step 5. The horn sounds two times to
indicate the sensor identification code has been
matched to the driver side rear tire, and that the
TPMS sensor matching process is no longer
active. The TIRE LEARNING ACTIVE message on
the DIC display screen goes off.
9. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK/OFF.
10. Set all four tires to the recommended air pressure
level as indicated on the Tire and Loading
Information label.
11. Put the valve caps back on the valve stems.
Each TPMS sensor has a unique identification code.
Any time you rotate your vehicle's tires or replace one
or more of the TPMS sensors, the identification codes
will need to be matched to the new tire/wheel position.
The sensors are matched to the tire/wheel positions in
the following order: driver side front tire, passenger side
front tire, passenger side rear tire, and driver side rear
tire using a TPMS diagnostic tool. See your dealer for
service.
The TPMS sensors can also be matched to each tire/
wheel position by increasing or decreasing the tire's air
pressure. If increasing the tire's air pressure, do not
exceed the maximum inflation pressure indicated on the
tire's sidewall.
To decrease air-pressure out of a tire you can use the
pointed end of the valve cap, a pencil-style air pressure
gauge, or a key.
You have two minutes to match the first tire/wheel
position, and five minutes overall to match all four tire/
wheel positions. If it takes longer than two minutes, to
match the first tire and wheel, or more than five minutes
to match all four tire and wheel positions the matching
process stops and you need to start over.
The TPMS sensor matching process is outlined below:
1. Set the parking brake.
2. Turn the ignition switch to ON/RUN with the
engine off.
3. Press the Remote Keyless Entry (RKE)
transmitter's LOCK and UNLOCK buttons at the
same time for approximately five seconds. The
horn sounds twice to signal the receiver is in
relearn mode and TIRE LEARNING ACTIVE
message displays on the DIC screen.
If your vehicle does not have RKE, press the
Driver Information Center (DIC) vehicle information
button until the PRESS V TO RELEARN TIRE
POSITIONS message displays. The horn sounds
twice to signal the receiver is in relearn mode and
TIRE LEARNING ACTIVE message displays on
the DIC screen.
If your vehicle does not have RKE or DIC buttons,
press the trip odometer reset stem located on the
instrument panel cluster until the PRESS V TO
RELEARN TIRE POSITIONS message displays.
The horn sounds twice to signal the receiver is in
relearn mode and TIRE LEARNING ACTIVE
message displays on the DIC screen.
4. Start with the driver side front tire.
5. Remove the valve cap from the valve cap stem.
Activate the TPMS sensor by increasing or
decreasing the tire's air pressure for five seconds,
or until a horn chirp sounds. The horn chirp, which
may take up to 30 seconds to sound, confirms that
the sensor identification code has been matched to
this tire and wheel position.
6. Proceed to the passenger side front tire, and
repeat the procedure in Step 5.
7. Proceed to the passenger side rear tire, and repeat
the procedure in Step 5.
8. Proceed to the driver side rear tire, and repeat the
procedure in Step 5. The horn sounds two times to
indicate the sensor identification code has been
matched to the driver side rear tire, and that the
TPMS sensor matching process is no longer
active. The TIRE LEARNING ACTIVE message on
the DIC display screen goes off.
9. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK/OFF.
10. Set all four tires to the recommended air pressure
level as indicated on the Tire and Loading
Information label.
11. Put the valve caps back on the valve stems.
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As usual GM goofed up on something so simple.
Tom
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i guess we are still beat but i saw the info and thought i would share sine i had never heard of that before. oh well, i guess no harm no foul.
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this is the same as using a tool. it works because when you increase the pressure (i thought it was only 3# but maybe it's more) the sensor transmits. the tool just forces the sensor to transmit without a pressure or temperature change.
in my experience, even letting air out for 5 seconds is not nearly enough of a pressure change to activate the sensor; unless you do it by unscrewing the valve core! inflating for 5 seconds is definitely not enough.
Note that this technique (or even using a tool) will not work reliably if the car has just been driven because all the sensors are now transmitting too frequently. You have to reset them when they are idle, so that an out of order transmission doesn't occur.
Activate the TPMS sensor by increasing or
decreasing the tire's air pressure for five seconds
decreasing the tire's air pressure for five seconds
Note that this technique (or even using a tool) will not work reliably if the car has just been driven because all the sensors are now transmitting too frequently. You have to reset them when they are idle, so that an out of order transmission doesn't occur.
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"TPMS Sensor Matching Process
Each TPMS sensor has a unique identification code.
Any time you replace one or more of the TPMS sensors
or rotate your vehicle’s tires, the identification codes
will need to be matched to the new tire/wheel position.
The sensors are matched to the tire/wheel positions
in the following order: driver side front tire, passenger
side front tire, passenger side rear tire, and driver
side rear tire using a TPMS diagnostic tool. See your
dealer/retailer for service."
Source:
http://www.c6registry.com/Technical/...upe_owners.pdf
The 2010 Owner's manual makes no mention of the procedure you mention. Can you point us to an official GM/Chevrolet document that says leaking air pressure re-links the TPM sensors?
Tom
Last edited by AFVETTE; 03-28-2010 at 03:35 PM. Reason: added link to 2010 Owner's Manual
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Also, why would GM change the part for the 2010 Corvette's TPMS if it weren't true? See any of Gene Culley's parts posts to verify that they have changed. The important bit is quoted:
C6 Tire Pressure Sensors
2010 +
15268606 – Tire pressure sensor - $41.28 each
15234846 – Tire pressure sensor nut - $3.73 each
Total set of 4 nuts and 4 sensors $197.68 shipped.
Note: The sensor comes with the washer and valve stem cap.
Setup includes: 4 sensors, 4 washers/o-rings, 4 caps and 4 nuts.
2005 – 2009
25758220 – Tire pressure sensor – $57.21 each
15234846 – Tire pressure sensor nut – $3.73 each
Total set of 4 nuts and 4 sensors $267.65 shipped.
Note: The sensor comes with the washer and valve stem cap.
Setup includes: 4 sensors, 4 washers/o-rings, 4 caps and 4 nuts.
2010 +
15268606 – Tire pressure sensor - $41.28 each
15234846 – Tire pressure sensor nut - $3.73 each
Total set of 4 nuts and 4 sensors $197.68 shipped.
Note: The sensor comes with the washer and valve stem cap.
Setup includes: 4 sensors, 4 washers/o-rings, 4 caps and 4 nuts.
2005 – 2009
25758220 – Tire pressure sensor – $57.21 each
15234846 – Tire pressure sensor nut – $3.73 each
Total set of 4 nuts and 4 sensors $267.65 shipped.
Note: The sensor comes with the washer and valve stem cap.
Setup includes: 4 sensors, 4 washers/o-rings, 4 caps and 4 nuts.
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Nope, but if I can't, does that mean it's not true? Someone here on the Corvette Forum has a 2010 GS, he goes by "GSRandy". He's already verified it works via air pressure gain or loss.
Also, why would GM change the part for the 2010 Corvette's TPMS if it weren't true? See any of Gene Culley's parts posts to verify that they have changed. The important bit is quoted:
jas
Also, why would GM change the part for the 2010 Corvette's TPMS if it weren't true? See any of Gene Culley's parts posts to verify that they have changed. The important bit is quoted:
jas
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Some of us changing out between track tire's have been doing this for some time now. No matter the proceedure's availible, using a reset tool is much faster and the better one's will diagnose the sensor's, even if off the car. I can just scan the track tire's sitting in the basement with my Bartec, and will tell me if they're functional. Easily found a bad sensor on my brother's 08' Cadillac CTS too. Since all car's 08' up have TPMS, think it's worth spending the money, as you could waste all day dumping air just finding out later you have a bad sensor.
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I just bought this tpms tool from tirerack, $113.xx shipped
http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=111
http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=111
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Not 100% sure, but think the basic Ateq VT10 unit Tire Rack sell's is strictly an activation unit, as doesn't test the sensor's like the pricier unit's. Check around for some of member's BEZ06(Bob) post's, as he's the TPMS guru here and helped steer me to a good Bartec tool a few year's ago. Katech(Jason) used to sell a basic Bartec tool, but can't get em' anymore. Last I saw, some vendor's were selling a nice green looking OTC unit for a good price. Maybe check around for that one. Later found the tool to be an OTC TIPS003A, and some places are selling it for less than $100 buck's.
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Not 100% sure, but think the basic Ateq VT10 unit Tire Rack sell's is strictly an activation unit, as doesn't test the sensor's like the pricier unit's. Check around for some of member's BEZ06(Bob) post's, as he's the TPMS guru here and helped steer me to a good Bartec tool a few year's ago. Katech(Jason) used to sell a basic Bartec tool, but can't get em' anymore. Last I saw, some vendor's were selling a nice green looking OTC unit for a good price. Maybe check around for that one. Later found the tool to be an OTC TIPS003A, and some places are selling it for less than $100 buck's.
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