[Z06] Article blames Z06 traction control for burnout error...bs??
#1
Tech Contributor
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Article blames Z06 traction control for burnout error...bs??
So this mishap in the burnout box (or outside of the burnout box, as the case may be), is being blamed on faulty active handling.
http://www.corvetteonline.com/news/v...ol-goes-wrong/
What do you guys think caused this?
http://www.corvetteonline.com/news/v...ol-goes-wrong/
What do you guys think caused this?
#2
Le Mans Master
Tough call, it did snap right pretty quick. However he rolled through the water with the front tires which inhibits the ability of the active handling, the brakes were being applied, he did the burnout in the rubber/sticky part of the track and one tire may have been wetter than the other causing one to grab sooner than the other tire, who knows what the tire pressures were like. Tough call
#3
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Tough call, it did snap right pretty quick. However he rolled through the water with the front tires which inhibits the ability of the active handling, the brakes were being applied, he did the burnout in the rubber/sticky part of the track and one tire may have been wetter than the other causing one to grab sooner than the other tire, who knows what the tire pressures were like. Tough call
A friend of the guy is posting in this thread. I hope the gentleman chimes in to tell his story.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/perf...post1577166147
I often see people standing in front of cars doing burnouts...I always think that's crazy for this very reason (though like other things I think are crazy, doesn't mean I don't do them from time to time).
#5
Melting Slicks
So this mishap in the burnout box (or outside of the burnout box, as the case may be), is being blamed on faulty active handling.
http://www.corvetteonline.com/news/v...ol-goes-wrong/
What do you guys think caused this?
http://www.corvetteonline.com/news/v...ol-goes-wrong/
What do you guys think caused this?
#8
Melting Slicks
#9
Race Director
Traction control can't always save bad driving. While trying his second burnout (I will never understand why drivers do these), the car started to get out of shape. Not a big deal, it happends during burnouts. He stayed in the throttle and hit the barrier, simple as that.
#10
Drifting
Exactly. The wheels were pointing the car right where he hit, once he released the brakes and the front wheels were able to spin again, the car went right into the direction the wheels were pointing. Looks un-mistakeable that it was driver error
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At the risk of armchair quarterbacking, it looks to me like the car does exactly what it was commanded to do. The fronts are sliding and when the rear starts to go sideways, the driver turns the wheel to the right. When he lets off, the car goes where the front wheels were pointed. I don't know if something with the traction control system is why it drifted a bit at first though.
#12
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Exactly. As he starts his burnout the front tires start to drag and the driver starts adding steering input to the right.
Well much like when you lock your brakes up and cant steer a car, the tires weren't turning during the burnout so they really weren't doing much to change the cars direction and the driver thought nothing of how how much steering angle he had. But once hes done with his burnout he forgets to straighten the wheel as he releases the brakes and the front tires start to turn in the direction they are now pointed which happens to be steeply toward the right and directly headed toward that guard rail. Driver didn't have time to react and hits the guard rail.
I have seen that many times before. And in the video you can clearly see that this is what happened. At that low of a speed what could any of the assist really do? Not much..
Well much like when you lock your brakes up and cant steer a car, the tires weren't turning during the burnout so they really weren't doing much to change the cars direction and the driver thought nothing of how how much steering angle he had. But once hes done with his burnout he forgets to straighten the wheel as he releases the brakes and the front tires start to turn in the direction they are now pointed which happens to be steeply toward the right and directly headed toward that guard rail. Driver didn't have time to react and hits the guard rail.
I have seen that many times before. And in the video you can clearly see that this is what happened. At that low of a speed what could any of the assist really do? Not much..
#13
Race Director
Read Ranger's great info about drag racing:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-z...echniques.html
Scroll down to the part about doing a burnout and see where he says to "back" into the water box to get just the rear wheels wet. Then pull out of the waterbox area, but NOT into the prepped launch area for your burnout.
Also, read the Part about running with AH on (or at least in Comp mode). It can save your butt.
Bob
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-z...echniques.html
Scroll down to the part about doing a burnout and see where he says to "back" into the water box to get just the rear wheels wet. Then pull out of the waterbox area, but NOT into the prepped launch area for your burnout.
Also, read the Part about running with AH on (or at least in Comp mode). It can save your butt.
Bob
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#16
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Exactly. As he starts his burnout the front tires start to drag and the driver starts adding steering input to the right.
Well much like when you lock your brakes up and cant steer a car, the tires weren't turning during the burnout so they really weren't doing much to change the cars direction and the driver thought nothing of how how much steering angle he had. But once hes done with his burnout he forgets to straighten the wheel as he releases the brakes and the front tires start to turn in the direction they are now pointed which happens to be steeply toward the right and directly headed toward that guard rail. Driver didn't have time to react and hits the guard rail.
I have seen that many times before. And in the video you can clearly see that this is what happened. At that low of a speed what could any of the assist really do? Not much..
Well much like when you lock your brakes up and cant steer a car, the tires weren't turning during the burnout so they really weren't doing much to change the cars direction and the driver thought nothing of how how much steering angle he had. But once hes done with his burnout he forgets to straighten the wheel as he releases the brakes and the front tires start to turn in the direction they are now pointed which happens to be steeply toward the right and directly headed toward that guard rail. Driver didn't have time to react and hits the guard rail.
I have seen that many times before. And in the video you can clearly see that this is what happened. At that low of a speed what could any of the assist really do? Not much..
I used to have a 90 4 runner with rear only antilock. So in the snow the front tires would lockup. That car taught me that as soon as you let off a locked wheel the car steers where you are aimed.
#17
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In this case, I suspect the driver was doing a short spin in the water to get the full tire wet. It was longer than I do...I will turn the tires once with my slicks if the water is lacking in the box.
#19
Le Mans Master
#20
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Be careful boys...
Things happen in the race track really quickly. If you think you are too good for things to happen to...think again.
I feel bad for the guy but tip my hat to him for even getting the car on the track.
I hope his car is not totalled. A hit on that aluminum frame rail right there is not good I understand.
Things happen in the race track really quickly. If you think you are too good for things to happen to...think again.
I feel bad for the guy but tip my hat to him for even getting the car on the track.
I hope his car is not totalled. A hit on that aluminum frame rail right there is not good I understand.