[Z06] Blown Engine - 08 Z06 with 33k miles
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Blown Engine - 08 Z06 with 33k miles
While driving Saturday in the country my 08 Z06 with 33k miles put a rod through the block on the passenger side.
I was in 2nd gear at about 4,000 rpm when I lost power. This was immediately followed by a loud band and it sounded like a machine gun under the car. Took a bit of effort to not crash it due to the rear tires being oiled. Lucky the car didn't burn due to the amount of oil on the exhaust manifold and exhaust system. Lots of aluminum chunks all over the place. I even picked up a piston pin circlip from the crossmember.
Not certain what failed but if I had to guess it sounded like it dropped a valve prior to the loud bang.
Engine is stock and has not been tuned. My dealer knows I've tracked the car.
Got it towed to the dealer who downloaded the engine mapping and transmitted it to GM in Michigan. Got a call yesterday from my service writer that GM approved a new engine under warranty. Said it should be here next week.
GM did not play any games or question my use of the car. I commend GM for standing behind their warranty. It's been a very stressful five days. Great relief when the service writer called and said authorization for warranty replacement granted.
Not sure if they're covering it under the 5 year 100K mile powertrain warranty or the extended warranty I bought two months ago. I bought the extended warranty two days before my original 3/36 expired. I've never bought an extended warranty as I firmly believe they're sucker bets. However, I've had a number of problems with this car. Also, I plan on keeping for two more years and will be able to sell with one year remaining on the warranty. Thought it would be a good selling point.
Rick
I was in 2nd gear at about 4,000 rpm when I lost power. This was immediately followed by a loud band and it sounded like a machine gun under the car. Took a bit of effort to not crash it due to the rear tires being oiled. Lucky the car didn't burn due to the amount of oil on the exhaust manifold and exhaust system. Lots of aluminum chunks all over the place. I even picked up a piston pin circlip from the crossmember.
Not certain what failed but if I had to guess it sounded like it dropped a valve prior to the loud bang.
Engine is stock and has not been tuned. My dealer knows I've tracked the car.
Got it towed to the dealer who downloaded the engine mapping and transmitted it to GM in Michigan. Got a call yesterday from my service writer that GM approved a new engine under warranty. Said it should be here next week.
GM did not play any games or question my use of the car. I commend GM for standing behind their warranty. It's been a very stressful five days. Great relief when the service writer called and said authorization for warranty replacement granted.
Not sure if they're covering it under the 5 year 100K mile powertrain warranty or the extended warranty I bought two months ago. I bought the extended warranty two days before my original 3/36 expired. I've never bought an extended warranty as I firmly believe they're sucker bets. However, I've had a number of problems with this car. Also, I plan on keeping for two more years and will be able to sell with one year remaining on the warranty. Thought it would be a good selling point.
Rick
Last edited by rikhek; 07-07-2011 at 07:06 PM.
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thats crazy..glad they are taking care of you
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Certainly an advantage to having a bone stock powertrain.
Good luck with the engine swap; you'll be back on the road in no time.
If you get a chance, post some pics of the engine.
Good luck with the engine swap; you'll be back on the road in no time.
If you get a chance, post some pics of the engine.
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Good news on GM standing behind the warranty. I wonder if this thread will command 21 pages of comments like the other one, probably not.
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I don't know about you other guys but I am staying off the back roads on those Sunday drives! Seems when an engine blows it's almost always when one is just loafing along at a lazy 40-50 mph or so. LOL
#9
Great outcome. My 06 Saleen mustang (stock) blew it's motor at 7000 miles at 2200rpm. Snapped a rod and punched a small chunk out of the block.
The Ford dealer did NOT stand behind the extended warranty. It took me writing a letter to the dealer owner threatening legal action. Wrote a nice fat check my way and I repaired it as I saw fit.
Good to see that GM treats their customers better.
The Ford dealer did NOT stand behind the extended warranty. It took me writing a letter to the dealer owner threatening legal action. Wrote a nice fat check my way and I repaired it as I saw fit.
Good to see that GM treats their customers better.
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I would expect nothing else than full replacement if the car is stock!! GM did what they are supposed to do.......what I don't like is it's just another blown LS7!
Just adds another seed of doubt which I've never had in any other performance car I've owned. Every sports car I've ever owned has pushed 100hp-300hp over stock nary a problem these random failures irk the tar out of me.
Best of luck on the new motor!!
Just adds another seed of doubt which I've never had in any other performance car I've owned. Every sports car I've ever owned has pushed 100hp-300hp over stock nary a problem these random failures irk the tar out of me.
Best of luck on the new motor!!
Last edited by Jasil; 07-07-2011 at 07:41 PM.
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And you didn't have to sue, how weird is that.from other posts one would think it could never happen. It sure raises a question as to why some can't seem to get GM to honor the warranty, or do we hear only half the story.
#12
Very interesting indeed. I HIGHLY doubt you will ever get any more info from the dealer as to what really happened but it sure would be nice to know. The past few Z06's (and a ZR1) we did had valves, and guides, that were extremely prematurely warn. I'm sure it's just coincidental but it certainly makes you wonder.
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Glad it's working out. Crossing my fingers with my 08 with a tune.
Last edited by 383vett; 07-07-2011 at 09:19 PM.
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While driving Saturday in the country my 08 Z06 with 33k miles put a rod through the block on the passenger side.
I was in 2nd gear at about 4,000 rpm when I lost power. This was immediately followed by a loud band and it sounded like a machine gun under the car. Took a bit of effort to not crash it due to the rear tires being oiled. Lucky the car didn't burn due to the amount of oil on the exhaust manifold and exhaust system. Lots of aluminum chunks all over the place. I even picked up a piston pin circlip from the crossmember.
Not certain what failed but if I had to guess it sounded like it dropped a valve prior to the loud bang.
Engine is stock and has not been tuned. My dealer knows I've tracked the car.
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Rick
I was in 2nd gear at about 4,000 rpm when I lost power. This was immediately followed by a loud band and it sounded like a machine gun under the car. Took a bit of effort to not crash it due to the rear tires being oiled. Lucky the car didn't burn due to the amount of oil on the exhaust manifold and exhaust system. Lots of aluminum chunks all over the place. I even picked up a piston pin circlip from the crossmember.
Not certain what failed but if I had to guess it sounded like it dropped a valve prior to the loud bang.
Engine is stock and has not been tuned. My dealer knows I've tracked the car.
....
Rick
I would expect nothing else than full replacement if the car is stock!! GM did what they are supposed to do.......what I don't like is it's just another blown LS7!
Just adds another seed of doubt which I've never had in any other performance car I've owned. Every sports car I've ever owned has pushed 100hp-300hp over stock nary a problem these random failures irk the tar out of me.....
Just adds another seed of doubt which I've never had in any other performance car I've owned. Every sports car I've ever owned has pushed 100hp-300hp over stock nary a problem these random failures irk the tar out of me.....
Rick, how much actual track duty did the car see before the incident on the street where the engine went?
I ask because I saw in one of your prior posts where you eventually bought a dedicated track car...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/auto...y-new-toy.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1576534869-post20.html
Been tracking for over 7 years in a modified C5 and for the last year and a half in my C6 Z06. Got tired of the expense as well as wear and tear on the C6 Z06 for track duty. The C6Z makes a great "track" day car but I'm driving it as a "race car" which is taking it's toll. It's also just a matter of time to when I have an off track excursion which would be expensive to fix on the C6Z.
I'm also tired of switching camber and toe, street to race rubber, brake pads, etc. every time I go to the track, not to mention switching it back to street after an event and the clean-up required to remove track debris/marking......
I'm also tired of switching camber and toe, street to race rubber, brake pads, etc. every time I go to the track, not to mention switching it back to street after an event and the clean-up required to remove track debris/marking......
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Yes, it does. Yes, it does.
Rick, how much actual track duty did the car see before the incident on the street where the engine went?
I ask because I saw in one of your prior posts where you eventually bought a dedicated track car...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/auto...y-new-toy.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1576534869-post20.html
Rick, how much actual track duty did the car see before the incident on the street where the engine went?
I ask because I saw in one of your prior posts where you eventually bought a dedicated track car...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/auto...y-new-toy.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1576534869-post20.html
Is that all you could dig up?
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I'm on the fence on this exhaust valve wear issue. On one hand you have people like Jason at Katech saying it's just a coincidence or a supplier issue (he didnt actually say this but loosly implied it) and on the other hand you have threads like these popping up with ls7s with exhaust valve issues. I think I might be looking into a rebuild soon...this is crazy.
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I'm on the fence on this exhaust valve wear issue. On one hand you have people like Jason at Katech saying it's just a coincidence or a supplier issue (he didnt actually say this but loosly implied it) and on the other hand you have threads like these popping up with ls7s with exhaust valve issues. I think I might be looking into a rebuild soon...this is crazy.
And yet you say you might be looking into a "rebuild" soon???
Last edited by '06 Quicksilver Z06; 07-07-2011 at 09:11 PM.
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Look, my thinking is this engine should be able to handle some track duty. The engine doesn't know where it is when it's driven. It doesn't just start grinding away at it's valve guides when it enters the track (even though we don't know if that was the issue here). My point is: even if the op took his engine to the track, drove it hard over the course of many track days, it still shouldn't blow up like it did. With all that said, I must add: my car is on it's second engine. I have 71k on the odo and 40k on my engine which was replaced under warrenty at 30k after a dropped valve. This whole engine blowing up issue hits a little closer to home for me than most others. I wouldn't mind the piece of mine a rebuild would provide, at the very least I'd like to open her up and see what's going on with the valve guides.
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Tires and brakes should be able to handle "some" track duty as well. But how much before they also wear out?
The engine doesn't know where it is when it's driven. It doesn't just start grinding away at it's valve guides when it enters the track (even though we don't know if that was the issue here). My point is: even if the op took his engine to the track, drove it hard over the course of many track days, it still shouldn't blow up like it did.
Do you think these cars should run for 100,000 miles regardless of how hard they have been driven on the track?
With all that said, I must add: my car is on it's second engine. I have 71k on the odo and 40k on my engine which was replaced under warrenty at 30k after a dropped valve. This whole engine blowing up issue hits a little closer to home for me than most others. I wouldn't mind the piece of mine a rebuild would provide, at the very least I'd like to open her up and see what's going on with the valve guides.
Last edited by '06 Quicksilver Z06; 07-07-2011 at 09:38 PM.