[Z06] 2008 Z06 with blown engine - suggestions?
07-17-2011, 06:59 PM
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First, go talk to a lawyer. It doesn't hurt to talk.
One of our cars blew the motor a few years ago and they said they would not cover it because there was only 1 qt of oil in the pan. No signs of an oil leak, so we must have abused it. My wife called the lawyer and faxed him all our maintenance receipts. The lawyer sent a letter and followed it up with a phone call a day later. The general manager called my wife and said they had reevaluated the issue and they were shipping in a new motor ASAP.
If you have any motor skills it may be a great experience rebuilding yourself. If you don't, find a friend that does and take the opportunity to learn.
Replace the cast hypereutectic pistons with forged pistons and tool steel wrist pins. Also replace the 2-piece exhaust valves with quality one piece valves and the steel valve guides with bronze guides.
Best of luck!
One of our cars blew the motor a few years ago and they said they would not cover it because there was only 1 qt of oil in the pan. No signs of an oil leak, so we must have abused it. My wife called the lawyer and faxed him all our maintenance receipts. The lawyer sent a letter and followed it up with a phone call a day later. The general manager called my wife and said they had reevaluated the issue and they were shipping in a new motor ASAP.
If you have any motor skills it may be a great experience rebuilding yourself. If you don't, find a friend that does and take the opportunity to learn.
Replace the cast hypereutectic pistons with forged pistons and tool steel wrist pins. Also replace the 2-piece exhaust valves with quality one piece valves and the steel valve guides with bronze guides.
Best of luck!
07-18-2011, 09:35 AM
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You will need as lawyer in your state familiar with vehicle warranty laws. Start with the phone book. Might want to avoid the ambulance chasers.
Another method would be to join Pre-Paid Legal. They will usally not take a pre-existing case, but you haven't done anything yet, so you may be ok.
Another method would be to join Pre-Paid Legal. They will usally not take a pre-existing case, but you haven't done anything yet, so you may be ok.
07-18-2011, 03:53 PM
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You will need as lawyer in your state familiar with vehicle warranty laws. Start with the phone book. Might want to avoid the ambulance chasers.
Another method would be to join Pre-Paid Legal. They will usally not take a pre-existing case, but you haven't done anything yet, so you may be ok.
Another method would be to join Pre-Paid Legal. They will usally not take a pre-existing case, but you haven't done anything yet, so you may be ok.
07-18-2011, 11:18 PM
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How many were bone stock, how many modded?
What percentage is your number compared to production totals?
Inquiring minds want to know.
07-18-2011, 11:55 PM
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my brother works for GM and they have been instructed to "good will" just about anything...even cars way out of warranty. All to improve customer satisfaction. Call GM corporate..go above the dealer and see what you can get.
if none of that works...sell me the car (i'm serious) then sue GM for diminished value
if none of that works...sell me the car (i'm serious) then sue GM for diminished value
07-18-2011, 11:58 PM
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my brother works for GM and they have been instructed to "good will" just about anything...even cars way out of warranty. All to improve customer satisfaction. Call GM corporate..go above the dealer and see what you can get.
if none of that works...sell me the car (i'm serious) then sue GM for diminished value
if none of that works...sell me the car (i'm serious) then sue GM for diminished value
Good will or not, I say GM won't warranty it.
07-19-2011, 12:10 AM
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i think its just a bad dealership.
warranty is just like insurance and an insurance adjuster first learns how to say "deny claim" before "here is your check"
07-19-2011, 12:51 AM
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I would rebuild a bad azz Heads/Cam LS7 engine into a nice heads and cam engine making around 550 to 580 rwhp.
It doesn't hurt to consult with an Attorney but with a Hypertech tune in it, it is my humble opinion (not legal advice) that you will be SOL.
Best of luck to you!
It doesn't hurt to consult with an Attorney but with a Hypertech tune in it, it is my humble opinion (not legal advice) that you will be SOL.
Best of luck to you!
07-19-2011, 02:21 AM
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Last Spring my wife bought herself a nice foreign made SUV. I won't mention the name but just say that it has a VERY long warranty.
Well, today we received a notice from the factory that there is a potential problem with the front springs that could cause premature failure. Apparently they learned this from repair reports and analysis of the failures. Smart eh?
Anyway, I guess to minimize their future warranty repair costs and maximize customer satisfaction they are calling on all owners to bring their vehicles in for a no cost upgrade to fix the DESIGN problem.
So why would I mention this here? Wull, are there any design flaws in the LS7? I dunno....kinda, sorta appears maybe some problems with the valves? Like kinda, sorta maybe they would have figured out the problem from all the failures?
You see the difference between approach "A" with the foreign manufacturer and approach "B" fix it when it fails unless we can avoid it?
I dunno. We're probably going to take the SUV in for the upgrades. The manufacturer has admitted a design flaw, found a solution, and is going to do the upgrade for no cost. Who is leading who in the business world now? Seems like we need to be sending MBA students to this foreign country to learn how to proactively manage a business instead of letting accountants and executives being paid quarter to quarter bonuses make the decisions.
Or maybe I'm wrong and there's nothing comparable here at all?
Besides, as one post said, there's nothing wrong with the LS7...just a few isolated failures...no pattern.
Well, today we received a notice from the factory that there is a potential problem with the front springs that could cause premature failure. Apparently they learned this from repair reports and analysis of the failures. Smart eh?
Anyway, I guess to minimize their future warranty repair costs and maximize customer satisfaction they are calling on all owners to bring their vehicles in for a no cost upgrade to fix the DESIGN problem.
So why would I mention this here? Wull, are there any design flaws in the LS7? I dunno....kinda, sorta appears maybe some problems with the valves? Like kinda, sorta maybe they would have figured out the problem from all the failures?
You see the difference between approach "A" with the foreign manufacturer and approach "B" fix it when it fails unless we can avoid it?
I dunno. We're probably going to take the SUV in for the upgrades. The manufacturer has admitted a design flaw, found a solution, and is going to do the upgrade for no cost. Who is leading who in the business world now? Seems like we need to be sending MBA students to this foreign country to learn how to proactively manage a business instead of letting accountants and executives being paid quarter to quarter bonuses make the decisions.
Or maybe I'm wrong and there's nothing comparable here at all?
Besides, as one post said, there's nothing wrong with the LS7...just a few isolated failures...no pattern.
07-19-2011, 10:26 AM
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I don't know if it can or can't. GM basically says that they will warranty the powertrain for 5 yr/100K miles IF you don't mess with the tune. In my case, the warranty is worth more to me than a few extra HP by messin with the tune. Others may want the extra HP and are willing to risk the warranty.
07-19-2011, 11:03 AM
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07-19-2011, 11:11 AM
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Last Spring my wife bought herself a nice foreign made SUV. I won't mention the name but just say that it has a VERY long warranty.
Well, today we received a notice from the factory that there is a potential problem with the front springs that could cause premature failure. Apparently they learned this from repair reports and analysis of the failures. Smart eh?
Anyway, I guess to minimize their future warranty repair costs and maximize customer satisfaction they are calling on all owners to bring their vehicles in for a no cost upgrade to fix the DESIGN problem.
So why would I mention this here? Wull, are there any design flaws in the LS7? I dunno....kinda, sorta appears maybe some problems with the valves? Like kinda, sorta maybe they would have figured out the problem from all the failures?
You see the difference between approach "A" with the foreign manufacturer and approach "B" fix it when it fails unless we can avoid it?
I dunno. We're probably going to take the SUV in for the upgrades. The manufacturer has admitted a design flaw, found a solution, and is going to do the upgrade for no cost. Who is leading who in the business world now? Seems like we need to be sending MBA students to this foreign country to learn how to proactively manage a business instead of letting accountants and executives being paid quarter to quarter bonuses make the decisions.
Or maybe I'm wrong and there's nothing comparable here at all?
Besides, as one post said, there's nothing wrong with the LS7...just a few isolated failures...no pattern.
Well, today we received a notice from the factory that there is a potential problem with the front springs that could cause premature failure. Apparently they learned this from repair reports and analysis of the failures. Smart eh?
Anyway, I guess to minimize their future warranty repair costs and maximize customer satisfaction they are calling on all owners to bring their vehicles in for a no cost upgrade to fix the DESIGN problem.
So why would I mention this here? Wull, are there any design flaws in the LS7? I dunno....kinda, sorta appears maybe some problems with the valves? Like kinda, sorta maybe they would have figured out the problem from all the failures?
You see the difference between approach "A" with the foreign manufacturer and approach "B" fix it when it fails unless we can avoid it?
I dunno. We're probably going to take the SUV in for the upgrades. The manufacturer has admitted a design flaw, found a solution, and is going to do the upgrade for no cost. Who is leading who in the business world now? Seems like we need to be sending MBA students to this foreign country to learn how to proactively manage a business instead of letting accountants and executives being paid quarter to quarter bonuses make the decisions.
Or maybe I'm wrong and there's nothing comparable here at all?
Besides, as one post said, there's nothing wrong with the LS7...just a few isolated failures...no pattern.
In my opinion you are wrong. A spring failure is a safety concern and they issued the recall to prevent accidents, deaths, and lawsuits, not purely for customer satisfaction.
07-19-2011, 11:26 AM
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07-25-2011, 12:42 PM
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................ Opps read that post to fast .......
07-25-2011, 05:20 PM
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Vengeance Racing, a forum sponsor here has a LS7 for sale that just came out of a customers car who put in an RHS engine.
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