0Myhardtop

Correct, our X-heads allows for greater CR on pump gas, but you must choose the correct cam to take full advantage.

Thanks,
Carlos

GARY2004Z06

No offence taken. I was just trying to point out a few things.
1. NINES are never easy. I have seen stick cars with over 1,000 RWHP not be able to crack into the nines on a well prepped track. HP does not make up for stellar driving.
2. You stated that you wanted easy 9s. I assumed that you would like to run your car in varying weather conditions to produce that pass. If this is true, there is a difference between running in -1,000' DA and running in +2,000 DA.
3. You stated that you wanted streetability. This is subjective. What is not subjective is that you will need a large cam to produce that additional 80 RWHP.
4. A good point that you mentioned is weight. A 200 pound difference translates into +/-40 HP at this level.
5. At this point, the 60' will be critical. Look at the 60's on these cars and compare them. If tire setups are the same, which they won't be because you do not have skinnies, compare the results of a 1.36 60' to a 1.56 60'. The 0.2 difference correlates to a +/-0.3 difference at the end of the track. Most people would be happy with 1.5x sixties but it won't help you to get to your goal.
6. Most cars are not setup as meticulous as they need to be to run at this level. Don't expect to drive your car to the track, lower the tire pressure, and crack a nine.
7. If you add these up, you will see that just because we did it with a Bolt-On car does not necessarily mean that a full weight H/C can do it. Look at ALL of the late model Corvette N/A lists and you can count on two hands how many cars that run nines.
C5s
9.532 @ 142.24 - Redvette1077 details
9.584 @ 142.22 - DBN Details
9.954 @ 135.61 - REDGAR Details
9.95x @ 137.xx - STEALTH 99 C5 Details/Slip
C5Zs
9.985 @ 138.80--1.428 --robz---------'03 04/08 -----H/C, ET ST, Gears, Post 328, Slip
9.328@145.39-1.374-robz------ '03 10/10-388ci, Trick Flow Heads, DRs, Post 10, Slip
C6s
9.950 @ 139.26 - Thesubfloor - 07 A6 – LS7, CAI, cb, conv, 3.42 H&C forged int, tune, DR - (4465)
C6Zs
9.973 137.72 1.36 Gary2004Z06 ~ 2008 details~~ thread Post-59
9.977 139.39 1.44 rattt g~~~~~~ 2007 details~~ thread video

Notes:
All cars listed have had some form of weight reduction.
Several of these cars are Race Cars.
I have included only the late model Vettes on the above.
Rob Gs reported 9.95 is mentioned as a note.
Carlos Allen has reported a couple of his cars that have run 9s N/A.
I'm sure that there has to be a couple out there that we do not know about.

I am not trying to deter you from your goal. I am just pointing out factually that it is not easy to run NINES in any conditions let alone the constraints that you have applied. I will encourage you to attain your goal but it's never easy. Good Luck.

robz

My impression is that you are grossly underestimating what it takes to run nines.

I'm sure great shops like RPM and Vette Air/Quality can provide you with a 600rwhp street car but that doesn't mean it's a nine second car.

Nothing 9. is easy and full weight just makes it more unrealistic for someone without alot of experience.
I'm not saying it can't be done but it would be difficult and to do it at will .
I would make the goal mid to low 10's easy, full weight, with just airing down the drag radials.

Stage IT

You guys are just assuming my background . I am a drag racer and relize what it takes to run these times. This thread is meant to talk about the power side of it. I can handle the driving, suspension, wheel/tire combo etc side. The point is a local guy I used to drive for had a 402 HCI base VETTE that made 510rwhp and it went 10 teens full weight(bigs&littles). You guys are too focused on the wording of my post .

robz

Ok, then how much power do you think it will take to run 9's at will, full weight street car?

robz

To run 9's easily I'm thinking the car needs to be capable of 9.7x's in good air.

BigMike NY

Hey Fellas,

FYI, my old LS1 setup in my Camaro went 9.42 @ 147 mph. It was a full weight car only thing removed was the passenger seat, but with me in it she weighed 3400+ lbs, not light by any standards!

The details were:
Stock cubed 346ci LS1
Cartek Heads & Cam
Forged pistons and rods (stock crank)
Rossler TH350 with trans brake
Direct port 250 shot
LS6 intake
Stock ECM
6 point chromoly cage
3400+ lbs race weight

Car put down 777rwhp and I forgot the torque but it wa something ridiculous! The car went 9's all day hot lapping the mother f'er and all!

Gering

Man that sucks, I have over 77,000 miles on my Livernois heads and cam with no problems. Of coarse my Vet in not the 7.0

robz

That's a good comparo. I know the car.
777 thru an auto is alot of power.

BigMike NY

Livernois is an amazing shop, not sure what 2005 big body is trying to get at????

BigMike NY

Did you walk me into the tree Rob? Or was it you who took the video? I remember that day as clear as if it was this morning, that was back in 2003! Great times!!!!!

BLACK-10

If i remember correctly it is still a hydraulic roller

GARY2004Z06

Mike,
Sweet car! Do you still have it? Would love to watch it run.

BigMike NY

Hi Gary, Its the car in my signature that Max from Cartek is finishing right now up the final details. I hope to be running deep 7's with it later this year!!!!

0Livernois Motorsports

I think most of our customers simply do not frequent this board unfortunately. We always have multiple corvettes in here at any given time, so I wouldn't say that people don't like our stuff. Most of our stage 3 customer's rarely, if ever, post. However, the power numbers, and tack times, speak for themselves. We do 100% of the port design, cnc work, cam design, and tuning in house. There aren't many shops In the whole country that can do all we do under one roof.









The lowest output car on there was "dan's" which we later remedied by adding our Kooks headers to the build and it put it right in line with the other cars we have built.

BTW, notice the 9 second run in Rob's car wasn't at some magical track in -500 DA either

rattt g

rob's 9.95 pass was at sea level, at bradington motorsports park

0Myhardtop

Heck no...who is that? The is only one real Carlos, and that's me!


Thanks,
Carlos...AKA, the real macho

Gering

Great products & customer service!!!

2005 big body

You misunderstand what I said. I saw no one saying anything about there h/c package just other companies. I am looking into getting a h/c package from them. I just wanted to hear other experiences that other people have had with them and how there cars and running.

2005 big body

Again, It was misread. I am thinking of going with one of your packages for h/c. I just wanted to hear more insight from people on this site. As in no one likes anything livernois has to offer? All I was reading was about other companies. I hear great things about you guys.