3LZZ06

It seems to be a programming flaw but I wanted to start a specific thread based on an earlier thread started by VasMan just in case others notice the same "problem"

Here's the problem...

If your lights are set to auto in the daytime so that the headlights aren't prompted by the system to be turned on, and you turn your parking lights and/or headlights on manually, the illuminated suspension control **** shuts completely off. Not even a dim illumination.

Although it seems like a minor issue and doesn't affect the performance of the suspension (as far as I know), it doesn't make any sense that GM intentionally programmed the system that way, and I for one think should be corrected.

So far this has been proven on 3 separate ZR1s...a '10, '11 and '12 model year.

Please test your cars when you can and post your results on this thread. I will forward this thread to Chevy customer service and hopefully he or she will forward it to someone in the know for a response.

Thanks in advance for you participation.
Scott

3LZZ06

Forgot to mention that this may also include Z06s with mag ride as well.

Mine has the "issue" 2010 ZR1.

911/Q45

Just checked my 2010. With the engine off and the lights turned on manually, the tiny "pointer" light illuminates in the straight ahead position evidently to help locate the ****. With the engine running, all lights come on the way they should. Did you check yours with the engine on and off?

RedSSR

MIne does the same thing and I thought I had a problem. I just didn't want to take it in for this. You are right, I can't believe it was designed this way.

VasMan

I too think It should be corrected.

When you guys post make sure you follow all the process. It is easy to skip a step and say it works.

Process is:

1/ Daytime with enough light so your headlights are off when in AUTO (engine on or off does not matter, do not do it in your garage it will not work)

2/Turn on your lights manually (any lights fog lights corner markers or headlights your call)

3/ Check your ride control, and traction control buttons.
If it is like ours there would be no illuminated text or sign

3LZZ06

Your car can be just on, or running. Your car also must be in the daylight or with a flashlight on the sensor to emulate daylight, when you lights turn themselves off in auto mode, then turn your headlights on manually to see if your suspension control **** goes black.

911/Q45

Reaccomplished and it works the way you've said, all dark when manual lights on.

3LZZ06

Seems as though we all do so far...



Yup...that's 5 out of 5 counting Alvin that hasn't posted on this thread yet.

Anyone else?...

ufaj26

Yes. I checked mine yesterday and it works just like the others.

Alvin

B-ZR1

just checked and my 2012 is the same way

BigNastyZO7

mine too

Fizzex

When it's daylight the lights automatically shutoff, by design. However, if you manually turn on the headlamps during the day the ride control selector does not illuminate because, wait for it,...it's not the headlamps. In other words, the car is smarter than you are.

This sounds like "Let's see if I can make something not work the way *I* think it should so I can complain about it".

During the daytime you can see the ride selector without it being illuminated. If not, then perhaps you shouldn't be driving because clearly your eyesight is poor.

outbackfarmer

I had never been around a ZR1 until mid Feb, when I picked mine up and drove it 1700 miles home. On the way home I noticed the **** not illuminated a couple of times. So I had it in for other warranty work and told them the illumination did not work all the time. When I picked the car up the paperwork showed "problem could not be replicated, No action". I bet I was messing with the lights. I thought something was wrong with it.

isnider

Mine too

jvp

I think you're being a bit ignorant and overly simplistic on the matter. The issue at attention here is whether you can see the line and text on the **** if the lights are on during the day. As you know, the 2010+ ZR1s have PTM, which uses the same **** as the ride selector. Depending on what driving mode the car is in, the ****'s text changes between the suspension settings and the PTM settings.

With the lights on, it's impossible to see what mode the **** is in (ride selector or PTM) because the text that's normally illuminated is dimmed dramatically.

It's got nothing to do with eyesight. Nice try.

jas

svtkeith

I'll check mine when I get the car next week.

3LZZ06

The above is not the case whatsoever, and if you had one you would understand the problem.

If the the control **** is "blacked out" you'll have a hard time with a bionic eye determining the outline of the script on it.

As stated in the first post, it will have "no" illumination with the lights on during the day, so to try and use it under these conditions while driving, renders it either useless or dangerous because it will take more than a second or two to figure out the script that is non-existent.

IMO it should be programmed to operate at dim illumination with the lights on during the day, just as it does in auto mode.

For example: In auto, the lights come on and the control **** and dash lights dim. That makes sense and I'm sure the current programming is just a mistake that hasn't been caught until now.



jas, keep in mind that with the lights manually on during the day, the selector **** is not dramatically dim, it's completely black..."off"

You have absolutely no way of knowing what suspension mode you're in.

911/Q45

I checked out the function today by switching suspension modes while it was blacked out. It still changes from tour to sport or vice versa, you just can't see it until you turn the lights back to auto. Annoying perhaps, but I'm not seeing any safety issue as I can't tell the difference between tour and sport anyway.

Gary '09 C6

I'll have to check mine next time out ('10 ZR1). But I suspect I will just confirm the same findings.

Seems to me the "right programming" would be to have the console-mounted selector **** dimly illuminated at all times when the car is on,
regardless of the headlight switch setting/position. One should have nothing to do with the other...

3LZZ06

Although it does tie in to one of the main features of the ZR1 which is the MSRC.

And I don't want to pull the $100,000 card but I will...

Just saying as Gary mentioned above, this should stay on to at least the dim mode when the car is on no matter what you do with the headlight function.

There's no good reason for it to turn off (that I can see). GM made a mistake with one of the main features of the car and it should be an easy programming fix.