Wulverine

My post was for information purposes only based on past models and mods. Find a 660hp 2007-2012 GT500 on dr's and see what times they run. What exactly would stock 2007-2012 GT500 stock times on DR's tells us about times the 2013 GT500 will run on DR's?

3LZZ06

I couldn't find anywhere on that list where it lists the HP of each car...

At least with a known "stock" 550hp GT500 Mustang we can do the math a guesstimate what adding 112hp would net in the 1/4......no???

Wulverine

Bad wording on my above post, I'll admit that. The 2013 Gt500 will be hitting the street and track soon and the numbers will speak for themselves (Good or Bad). For the record, I think it will be a low 11 second car on DR's only at best.

LS1LT1

You may be right but do keep in mind that a Camaro ZL1 does weigh notably more (by roughly 200 pounds) than a GT500 as well.
Not sure what (if any) weight reduction that particular ZL1 had done to it, I know at least it's wheels/tires were lighter than stock though.

LS1LT1

LOL, I would even take $75.00 per share at this point LOL.
On a related note, before I'd bought my RIMM shares (I've since got out) I had shorted 2200 shares in the high $70.00 range but decided to abort that position and covered.
That was potentially a 'free new fully loaded ZR1' type of mistake LOL.





You may be right but do keep in mind that a Camaro ZL1 does weigh notably more (by roughly 200 pounds) than a GT500 as well.
Not sure what (if any) weight reduction that particular ZL1 had done to it, I know at least it's wheels/tires were lighter than stock though.




It depends. Are we talking about an average driver attempting a new best at Bandimere Raceway in Colorado in July/August?
Or are we talking about Evan Smith a private track rental in NJ/MD in November - March?
If it's the latter I believe this post below might be more accurate than some might think:
While almost NOTHING in life is truly guaranteed, you may still be correct on this one.

Mopar Jimmy

WOW, 2 weeks in a row and still a stop story in the C6 Z section, and 10,500+ plus looks on this thread, tells me that Ford had REALLY hit the ball out of the park with this new Stang Shelby 500.

Can't wait to daily drive one YEAR ROUND sometime in the next few years and looking forward to its final performance numbers with STICKY drag radials and road race tires for the twisties, although no doubt she will make a better drag racer than road racer! This Horse will no doubt be a BLAST to drive!!

FNBADAZ06

I posted the LPE ZL1's video to show what it took to get a Camaro to run both a 10 second run AND a 200+ MPH teminal speed in one car with just a tire change. I like what Ford is doing and can appreciate the GT500....can't wait to see what it does instead of all this bench racing banter in this thread

This is what LPE had to say about this specific car :

From Lingenfelter....

"We did not remove weight from the ZL1. The rear seat was left out, along with a few other interion trim panels, because of the required roll cage. We did not want to cut any of the interior panels becasue at some piont we will remove the roll cage and return the interior to stock.

The track required a roll cage for anyone attempting speeds like this. We agree with this requirement, and would have put one in the car even if they didn't. You never know what could happen at these speeds. The car also has 5 point belts installed on the driver side.

If anyone wants to see the car in person, I will be driving it across the country as part of the Hot Rod Power Tour in June.

With the right conditions, I believe the GT500 will run 200 MPH. The Mustang has a rear axle ratio that will allow it to run 200 in 5th gear. Running 5th gear is more efficent that running 6th like we had to run. The Mustang has less frontal area, and that will let it run faster.

We could have changed the axle in our car to the automatic ratio and ran 5th gear, but that is another change. We did not want to change more than required to get the job done.

Track conditions were a big challenge when we were there. The track is not really set up for high speed runs. We were the first American car to ever run 200+ at this track. The track was built in 1959, and has never been repaved. They use it for tire development an durability testing. It is really rough. There are dips and bumps all around the track. It was 94 degrees when we ran the 202.67. The tempature made quite a difference in the amount of engine power available. The wind was blowing like crazy. We had a very strong cross wind to deal with. It was strong enough that it would force the car over 1 lane at over 190 MPH. All of these things cost speed. We believe given the right conditions, the car could run 4 or 5 mph faster.

It was not our goal to challenge the statement from Ford that the GT500 will run 200+. Our goal was to show the ZL1, with a couple modifications, would run it too. "

GMuffley

I want to park one beside the Z in my garage too.

Antonio1988

lol this thread is so funny, the real car guys are down to a few while most on here are sounding like a bunch of fanboys. I am still very active on s197forum and know that most decent drivers with an average of 420rwhp in the new 5.0s are running high 11s on what is basically just a tune and tires. The good drivers in the 2011+ GT500 have been running bottom 11s in stock form on nothing more than a drag radial and a tune(and that is with just 520rwhp on average). The 2013, having better technology, better gearing, and more power (I'm guessing 600rwhp in stock form) WILL RUN MID-HIGH 10S ALL DAY WITH NOTHING MORE THAN DRAG RADIALS AND A CANNED TUNE AT THE MOST.

Don't be scared, be happy that cars are getting better and better because Chevy will respond and keep the competition going

RedZ4me

The 5.0's with less power and a bit less weight are putting it down better.....especially with the auto........better than the front heavier GT500. Opposite of what you're saying, some GT500's are heavily modded and barely get into the 10's with most running low 11's. The GT500 is simply not an easy car to drive/launch down the 1/4.

GTJim

Ah who gives a crap! I could care less if the GT500 runs tens or not. I bought my Z06 because I wanted a two seat sports car. It has more horsepower and way more performance than I could ever use on the street. It's more car than I will ever need.

GMuffley

Good point.

dcsteg

The most common sense statement made on this thread.

I second that.

I believe 2013 will be the last year to buy these really great cars. The government mandated MPG will sooner then later kill off the HP race. 4 cylinder turbos will rule the day.

I will hold on to my 2011 Torch Red Z06. Just turned 900 miles today. It will always be the Z to own and I will always wave good by to the galloping stallion in my rear view mirror. One hell of a ride.

FrankTank

Some people do care how this new car will stack up against our Z's... if you don't give a crap, then why even bother posting in the thread?

I could really care less either, but it is an interesting discussion to some, whether you or others think so or not

Mopar Jimmy

That being said I CAN"T WAIT to DAILY DRIVE one of these bad boy Stangs in a couple of years, of course while still owning my C6 Z, or preferably a ZR1.

Heck, if I could put Blizzack snow tires on my C6 Z I would daily drive it year round!

3LZZ06

With DRs and no tune to keep drivetrain stock, I don't think the new Stang will get in the 10s.

If it does it will be a 10.999 but that is a stretch IMO. We'll see soon enough...

LS1LT1

You may be correct, it's just too soon to tell.
But again, if the current (2011/2012) 550hp/510tq GT500 has run an 11.1 (see video below) with slicks and skinnies (skinnies alone are worth up to 2/10ths so we'll say it might be an 11.3 with full size fronts on it) as it's only modification...then what does the 2013 model with 112hp (and 121tq) more do on just sticky rear tires added?
I've seen the addition of 100 more horsepower take a car from 12.2s down to 11.4s with relative ease.
I personally don't think that 10.9s will be a problem at all with a good driver in good track/air conditions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=XNhulxLTim8

camirocz

10 second car for sure on drag radials, stop being fanboys.When a car is a good one lets appreciate it ,instead of criticizing it.

40YRW8

That's funny. Nice comment since not a single car has rolled off the assembly line, much less run the quarter. My last comment to the Ford hype is, "Prove it." If they can, I will be impressed. Would I buy one, never.
Gary

camirocz

No one is asking you to buy one but doubting a car or hating on it for no reason is so stupid.Bottom line it has 157 h.p more than yours or mine and 160 extra lb/ft of torque so there is nothing to prove,its more like you have to prove of you can keep up.To hate on a car or to diss it just because its not a z06 is so ridiculous.A lot of fanboys here that would probably never race a gt 500 or shake at the site of it and turn off onto a side street!Every fast car has something about it we should appreciate, it doesnt mean you have to buy one.