[Z06] how will our 505hp Z's stack up against the '13 662hp shelby?
05-24-2012, 11:59 AM
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05-24-2012, 12:46 PM
#502
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They make other magazine drivers look like Evan Smith. Well other than Evan Smith, because he's Evan Smith. He already looks like himself.
But seriously....if you know anything about drag racing we all know the great runs are all about the 60' time. Tell me how fast a car ran and trapped and before I judge I ask the 60' time. That tells the story how well the car was being driven/potential.
Now they didn't publish the 60' time, but their posted 0-60 times were .6 lower than Motor Trend. Thats pretttyyyy bad considering you can do 62mph in first gear, and there is no shifting involved.
Stop and think about that. They were over HALF of a second slower in something as simple as 0-60. With NO SHIFTING...AND THE DAMN CAR HAS LAUNCH CONTROL. HOW DO YOU GET .6 SLOWER 0-60 TIME???? Anyway......
.1 in the 60' is worth about .15 or so in the ET.
I just can't wait till we see this thing with some basic mods.
But seriously....if you know anything about drag racing we all know the great runs are all about the 60' time. Tell me how fast a car ran and trapped and before I judge I ask the 60' time. That tells the story how well the car was being driven/potential.
Now they didn't publish the 60' time, but their posted 0-60 times were .6 lower than Motor Trend. Thats pretttyyyy bad considering you can do 62mph in first gear, and there is no shifting involved.
Stop and think about that. They were over HALF of a second slower in something as simple as 0-60. With NO SHIFTING...AND THE DAMN CAR HAS LAUNCH CONTROL. HOW DO YOU GET .6 SLOWER 0-60 TIME???? Anyway......
.1 in the 60' is worth about .15 or so in the ET.
I just can't wait till we see this thing with some basic mods.
05-24-2012, 01:05 PM
#503
Published Motor Trend test results have always been corrected to the SAE J1349 protocol.
Everyone understands this little nugget, correct ? You don't see the actual test result numbers in their acceleration test.
Everyone understands this little nugget, correct ? You don't see the actual test result numbers in their acceleration test.
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05-24-2012, 01:57 PM
#504
......and.........
05-24-2012, 01:59 PM
#505
I just wanted the 505th post in this thread, which represents the SAE Certified horsepower rating of my factory LS7
oh, and the proof of the M/T correction factor's used for their acceleration testing.
Note how forced induction cars are treated versus N/A cars
http://www.motortrend.com/features/1...g/viewall.html
oh, and the proof of the M/T correction factor's used for their acceleration testing.
Note how forced induction cars are treated versus N/A cars
http://www.motortrend.com/features/1...g/viewall.html
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05-24-2012, 02:26 PM
#506
Corvettes are amazing and I love my c6z, but props to Ford on an awesome car (maybe b/c I owned Fords before a Vette).
I was following a thread on SVTP about people just getting their Cobras this week and getting it on a dyno. Seems to be putting down around 600 to the wheels. Exciting stuff. It's an awesome car.
I was following a thread on SVTP about people just getting their Cobras this week and getting it on a dyno. Seems to be putting down around 600 to the wheels. Exciting stuff. It's an awesome car.
05-25-2012, 10:14 AM
#507
Let's say it does dethrone the Z06. That was one hell of a run! 7 years of beat downs handed to the world's best.
This benefits everyone. I know a lot of you guys are just like me and follow changes to all cars that interest you. Here's a small list of changes that mysteriously happened during the overlapping Z06 and ZR1 runs:
997.1 911 turbo -> new 911 turbo s w/PDK
GT-R -> upgraded GT-R
F430 dumped -> 458 Italia.
Audi R8 (V8)-> Audi R8 5.2 (V10)
This benefits everyone. I know a lot of you guys are just like me and follow changes to all cars that interest you. Here's a small list of changes that mysteriously happened during the overlapping Z06 and ZR1 runs:
997.1 911 turbo -> new 911 turbo s w/PDK
GT-R -> upgraded GT-R
F430 dumped -> 458 Italia.
Audi R8 (V8)-> Audi R8 5.2 (V10)
05-25-2012, 10:24 AM
#508
Team Owner
Apparently you don't understand that little nugget. SAE J1349 is not a correction factor for performance times, it is a method for certifying horsepower to certain standards of testing. SAE does not set correction factors for performance times. In fact, many people miss understand correction factors for drag racing. The only officially recognized correction factors are for altitude. We all know that weather is a very real factor in 1/4 mile times (and horsepower), but no drag racing sanctioning body recognizes correction factors other than altitude.
05-25-2012, 11:11 AM
#510
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL6ljbCwphQ
05-25-2012, 12:22 PM
#511
Le Mans Master
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Or enough horsepower and driver skill. My favorite video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL6ljbCwphQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL6ljbCwphQ
05-25-2012, 12:31 PM
#514
05-25-2012, 01:43 PM
#515
Exactly. My point was that the previous models were not nearly as tough to beat. Something caused all of those manufacturers to bring their A game. My bet is that it was the Z06 and ZR1. One hell of a legacy when your car is so good it forces the competition to make theirs 1.5 seconds faster to 100 MPH.
05-25-2012, 02:11 PM
#516
Instructor
I’m curious to see what happens when modified 13 GT500 start hitting the streets, there may be a lot of 1,000hp Cobra’s running around, just like 600-700hp 03-04 Cobra’s back then. According to Motor Trends numbers it runs exactly what my stock Z06 ran in the ¼ and I bet the Z06 feels better at high speeds, and it still turns and stops. I have always liked Mustangs but the C6 Z06 changed me and set a really high bar.
05-25-2012, 02:13 PM
#517
Le Mans Master
I was in the market for the new GT500... 1st off you can not find one for sticker within 6 months (I did find a later '13 allocation at MSRP but was told it would be Nov-Dec delivery). Next, by the time I optioned the car the way I wanted it... it was $63k.... I just couldnt do it. I picked up a '13 Boss 302 and couldnt be happier!!! It is an incredible handler!!! Right there with my '06 Z06. Which was as important to me as the straight line speed. I have seen '12 Boss 302s go 11.70-80s on DR stock... all that and I have over $20k left in my pocket over a GT500..... With another baby on the way, I made the right choice!!
Like some of you have already said... Its a great time to be a car guy!!!
Like some of you have already said... Its a great time to be a car guy!!!
05-25-2012, 02:30 PM
#518
Burning Brakes
I was in the market for the new GT500... 1st off you can not find one for sticker within 6 months (I did find a later '13 allocation at MSRP but was told it would be Nov-Dec delivery). Next, by the time I optioned the car the way I wanted it... it was $63k.... I just couldnt do it. I picked up a '13 Boss 302 and couldnt be happier!!! It is an incredible handler!!! Right there with my '06 Z06. Which was as important to me as the straight line speed. I have seen '12 Boss 302s go 11.70-80s on DR stock... all that and I have over $20k left in my pocket over a GT500..... With another baby on the way, I made the right choice!!
Like some of you have already said... Its a great time to be a car guy!!!
Like some of you have already said... Its a great time to be a car guy!!!
Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords did a Boss project last year. With a Kenne 3.6L Bell Mammoth at 21psi, it made 854RWHP
Does one need that much power? Probably not, but hey, were all a little nutty. The same car, at a tame 16psi (same as the 13 GT500) made 735RWHP on a 100% stock motor except the KB kit. It doesn't have all the launch control technology etc... but it's a hell-a-good alternative.
05-25-2012, 02:37 PM
#519
Le Mans Master
I was in the market for the new GT500... 1st off you can not find one for sticker within 6 months (I did find a later '13 allocation at MSRP but was told it would be Nov-Dec delivery). Next, by the time I optioned the car the way I wanted it... it was $63k.... I just couldnt do it. I picked up a '13 Boss 302 and couldnt be happier!!! It is an incredible handler!!! Right there with my '06 Z06. Which was as important to me as the straight line speed. I have seen '12 Boss 302s go 11.70-80s on DR stock... all that and I have over $20k left in my pocket over a GT500..... With another baby on the way, I made the right choice!!
Like some of you have already said... Its a great time to be a car guy!!!
Like some of you have already said... Its a great time to be a car guy!!!
05-25-2012, 02:46 PM
#520
Team Owner
I was in the market for the new GT500... 1st off you can not find one for sticker within 6 months (I did find a later '13 allocation at MSRP but was told it would be Nov-Dec delivery). Next, by the time I optioned the car the way I wanted it... it was $63k.... I just couldnt do it. I picked up a '13 Boss 302 and couldnt be happier!!! It is an incredible handler!!! Right there with my '06 Z06. Which was as important to me as the straight line speed. I have seen '12 Boss 302s go 11.70-80s on DR stock... all that and I have over $20k left in my pocket over a GT500..... With another baby on the way, I made the right choice!!
Like some of you have already said... Its a great time to be a car guy!!!
Like some of you have already said... Its a great time to be a car guy!!!