[Z06] 2013 shelby 0-60?
05-23-2012, 08:28 AM
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St. Jude Donor '12
Shelby is just that. Shelby. A Mustang with aftermarket additions. A ZO6 Corvette is a Chevrolet Corvette. A brute directly from the GM factory. The ZL1 Camero comes that way from the factory also. They do not have to get aftermarket upgrades from Shelby, Saleen etc. Lets do $30,000 in upgrades to a ZO6 or ZL1 and see what happens. I like the looks of the Shelby but I am loyal to my brand.
It is this kind of thinking that sank American cars in the late 70's-80's. The big three thought they could hand us whatever and we would buy....their pile of crap....I know this because I was one of the Camaro loyalist (at the time). I wouldn't even look at a different car at the time.
Not a good way to go. Buy the best be it from whomever makes it. Competition is good when it comes top performance/muscle cars. If you act on what you say, then your getting left in the Mustangs dust with a ZL1 Camaro....the General should have been looking over his shoulder because they HAVE goofed this one with the competition twix Camaro-Mustang....chalk one for Ford. If I could have two play toys, one WOULD be this Mustang. They LOOK BETTER too.
05-23-2012, 11:26 AM
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Le Mans Master
It is this kind of thinking that sank American cars in the late 70's-80's. The big three thought they could hand us whatever and we would buy....their pile of crap....I know this because I was one of the Camaro loyalist (at the time). I wouldn't even look at a different car at the time.
Not a good way to go. Buy the best be it from whomever makes it. Competition is good when it comes top performance/muscle cars. If you act on what you say, then your getting left in the Mustangs dust with a ZL1 Camaro....the General should have been looking over his shoulder because they HAVE goofed this one with the competition twix Camaro-Mustang....chalk one for Ford. If I could have two play toys, one WOULD be this Mustang. They LOOK BETTER too.
Not a good way to go. Buy the best be it from whomever makes it. Competition is good when it comes top performance/muscle cars. If you act on what you say, then your getting left in the Mustangs dust with a ZL1 Camaro....the General should have been looking over his shoulder because they HAVE goofed this one with the competition twix Camaro-Mustang....chalk one for Ford. If I could have two play toys, one WOULD be this Mustang. They LOOK BETTER too.
05-23-2012, 11:42 AM
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Le Mans Master
05-23-2012, 12:43 PM
#64
Burning Brakes
I just lumped them in there. The Z06 only had 505 and the ZL1 is close enough to 600. I was just getting to the fact that USA is taking it to the world full force.
05-23-2012, 12:51 PM
#65
Burning Brakes
Every GT500 since 2007 has been built 100% in-house at Ford by their SVT team on the same production line with V-6 and GT's.
Now,Shelby America offers what they call a "SuperSnake" package. It's very similar to a Callaway Corvette. What you saw were owners cars there for said package.
But the car in discussion in this thread is not the SuperSnake.
Now,Shelby America offers what they call a "SuperSnake" package. It's very similar to a Callaway Corvette. What you saw were owners cars there for said package.
But the car in discussion in this thread is not the SuperSnake.
05-23-2012, 01:25 PM
#66
Race Director
I would hope for Ford's sake that their top of the line "supercar" could out perform a 6 year old C6Z .. I mean come on 
I LOVE the new Shelby GT 500 but I think its silly to have a second thread on a C6 Z forum, when we arleady have a 2013 Shelby 500 thread, that has been the most popular here the last 3 weeks with over 15,500 looks.
This is coming from a guy who is not even close to being a Vette Purist and loves all bad azz cool American Muscle Cars (old ad new) but this is now getting ridicolous, as this is simply a rehash of the below thead).
I say put this thread into the other cars section or simply consoldiate this thread into the main one listed below this is just pure repitition, and even the title has nothing to do with C6Zs.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...hp-shelby.html
This is coming from a guy who is not even close to being a Vette Purist and loves all bad azz cool American Muscle Cars (old ad new) but this is now getting ridicolous, as this is simply a rehash of the below thead).
I say put this thread into the other cars section or simply consoldiate this thread into the main one listed below this is just pure repitition, and even the title has nothing to do with C6Zs.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...hp-shelby.html
Getting old fast to see the latest fury of freaked out people ... there were cars faster than the Z06 before this Shelby came out, and there will continue to be as time and technology move forward.The Z06 held up as one of the top performing sports cars for quite a while..it's not going to be that way forever, nor would I want it to... natural progress we must move forward...
Besides pleminary numbers and info available is saying the 2 cars are close.... some are acting like this Shelby is a 9 sec car out of the box from Ford
05-23-2012, 11:13 PM
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Yes, they're a heavy lump and shaped like a brick, but they're relatively comfortable, fairly fast, and handle OK for Mustang. If you're taking a couple of passengers, luggage, and what-all on a longish trip, they're a heck of a lot more suitable than a faster and lighter two-seater.
05-24-2012, 12:44 AM
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St. Jude Donor '06
Can only hope to add this new bad boy Stang to my garage sometime in the next few years (LOVE IT)!
Of course if you post this up in the C6 Z section of the largest online Corvette Forum in the World, your going to get more than a few brand specific corvette loyalists who bash this car, and that's one of the reasons this has been the most popular thread here over the last 27 days (its just fueling the fire)!
Face it guys for what it is at this price point (Msrp), right now this car is all the rage and rightfully so!
OH yeah, I forgot there was another 26 day old thread on this same EXACT same topic here in the C6 Z section (nothing like rehashing throught the same old stuff).
05-24-2012, 12:47 AM
#69
Drifting
More boost...LOL. Ok - so...my FGT just got it's 5.4 liter engine's supercharger upgraded to a Whipple 4.0 L. It's now making 920 crank HP now, up from 550 in stock trim. All that was done was the S/C and throttle body / pulley (from 12 to 19 psi) and a good tune. We have more in it, but haven't yet finished the tuning. Now remember, this new 5.8 Liter is the 5.4 liter engine, reworked. When you say "more boost"...that's an understatement! You could go well into 800+ RWHP with just boost - and still be running safely with plenty of margin for error.
05-25-2012, 09:14 AM
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Le Mans Master
More boost...LOL. Ok - so...my FGT just got it's 5.4 liter engine's supercharger upgraded to a Whipple 4.0 L. It's now making 920 crank HP now, up from 550 in stock trim. All that was done was the S/C and throttle body / pulley (from 12 to 19 psi) and a good tune. We have more in it, but haven't yet finished the tuning. Now remember, this new 5.8 Liter is the 5.4 liter engine, reworked. When you say "more boost"...that's an understatement! You could go well into 800+ RWHP with just boost - and still be running safely with plenty of margin for error.
05-26-2012, 04:13 PM
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Le Mans Master
More boost...LOL. Ok - so...my FGT just got it's 5.4 liter engine's supercharger upgraded to a Whipple 4.0 L. It's now making 920 crank HP now, up from 550 in stock trim. All that was done was the S/C and throttle body / pulley (from 12 to 19 psi) and a good tune. We have more in it, but haven't yet finished the tuning. Now remember, this new 5.8 Liter is the 5.4 liter engine, reworked. When you say "more boost"...that's an understatement! You could go well into 800+ RWHP with just boost - and still be running safely with plenty of margin for error.
The big cubic inch Ls7 is a fragile flower compared to what's stuffed in the stangs.
05-26-2012, 04:52 PM
#74
Team Owner
lol at those saying the Shelby will never match the Z06 around a road course.......well no crap, the Z06 it built with the roadcourse as it's main point for existence.
That's like me saying a Z06/ZR1 will never match the GT500's seating of 4 people.....
The bottom line is the GT500 is aimed directly for those wanting a fast a heck 4 seat GT car. It's a muscle car and I'm totally fine with that and respect it for it's capabilities. Also it will be no slouch on a road course either, some of you make it sound like the GT500 will go flying off the track lol, I think alot of people can live with a 2013GT500 that matches a Grand Sports handling on a roadcourse and can dust a Z06 in a straight line.
The 2013 GT500 is a better all-round car (compared to a Z06) if you need room and want to run with exotics at the drag strip, this car should get a serious look.
Cars evolve, this is a GOOD thing that Ford has upped it's game again, it will push GM to make a C7 that will outdistance itself from these latest Mustangs. We all win with this competition.
That's like me saying a Z06/ZR1 will never match the GT500's seating of 4 people.....
The bottom line is the GT500 is aimed directly for those wanting a fast a heck 4 seat GT car. It's a muscle car and I'm totally fine with that and respect it for it's capabilities. Also it will be no slouch on a road course either, some of you make it sound like the GT500 will go flying off the track lol, I think alot of people can live with a 2013GT500 that matches a Grand Sports handling on a roadcourse and can dust a Z06 in a straight line.
The 2013 GT500 is a better all-round car (compared to a Z06) if you need room and want to run with exotics at the drag strip, this car should get a serious look.
Cars evolve, this is a GOOD thing that Ford has upped it's game again, it will push GM to make a C7 that will outdistance itself from these latest Mustangs. We all win with this competition.
Nice mate for the Z-06. But It remains to be seen if they dust a stock
Z-06 in a straight line. Looks to be a closer race than with the 2012.
I love the A&A kit on my Z-06!
05-26-2012, 05:15 PM
#75
Le Mans Master
Ford just makes a better engine.
