[Z06] Looking at a Torquer 116... any reason not to get the 110 instead?
#1
Melting Slicks
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Looking at a Torquer 116... any reason not to get the 110 instead?
Looking at upgrading the cam after my headwork and have decided on either the Katech Torquer 116 or 110, leaning towards the 116 at the moment.
From what I've read, both are mild cams, which is preferred. I've read that the 116 drives like a stock car, while the 110 is a little more aggressive.
Reliability and drivability are the most important goals here, I don't want a car that is awful to drive around town in.
I guess my question is... is it true the 116 drives like a stock car and how much different or worse is the 110?
Any downsides to getting the 110 instead of the 116?
If the 116 drives like stock, any downsides to getting one at all? Seems like a good choice for a nice boost in power without any sacrifices or issues elsewhere.
Thanks.
From what I've read, both are mild cams, which is preferred. I've read that the 116 drives like a stock car, while the 110 is a little more aggressive.
Reliability and drivability are the most important goals here, I don't want a car that is awful to drive around town in.
I guess my question is... is it true the 116 drives like a stock car and how much different or worse is the 110?
Any downsides to getting the 110 instead of the 116?
If the 116 drives like stock, any downsides to getting one at all? Seems like a good choice for a nice boost in power without any sacrifices or issues elsewhere.
Thanks.
Last edited by Jawnathin; 12-26-2012 at 02:55 AM.
#2
Le Mans Master
A 110 LSA will give you a little more low rpm torque than a 116, but likely a more lumpy idle too, if that's what you like. Personally I don't on a newer car, but with the good flowing LS7 heads, doubt you'd notice much difference. Keep in mind, the stock cam is 120 LSA. Call Katech, and see what they have to say.
#4
Looking at upgrading the cam after my headwork and have decided on either the Katech Torquer 116 or 110, leaning towards the 116 at the moment.
From what I've read, both are mild cams, which is preferred. I've read that the 116 drives like a stock car, while the 110 is a little more aggressive.
Reliability and drivability are the most important goals here, I don't want a car that is awful to drive around town in.
I guess my question is... is it true the 116 drives like a stock car and how much different or worse is the 110?
Any downsides to getting the 110 instead of the 116?
If the 116 drives like stock, any downsides to getting one at all? Seems like a good choice for a nice boost in power without any sacrifices or issues elsewhere.
Thanks.
From what I've read, both are mild cams, which is preferred. I've read that the 116 drives like a stock car, while the 110 is a little more aggressive.
Reliability and drivability are the most important goals here, I don't want a car that is awful to drive around town in.
I guess my question is... is it true the 116 drives like a stock car and how much different or worse is the 110?
Any downsides to getting the 110 instead of the 116?
If the 116 drives like stock, any downsides to getting one at all? Seems like a good choice for a nice boost in power without any sacrifices or issues elsewhere.
Thanks.
A 110 LSA will give you a little more low rpm torque than a 116, but likely a more lumpy idle too, if that's what you like. Personally I don't on a newer car, but with the good flowing LS7 heads, doubt you'd notice much difference. Keep in mind, the stock cam is 120 LSA. Call Katech, and see what they have to say.
The Katech Torquer 110, will give more torque and power accross the entire RPM range.
The graph below was posted up by Katech_Jason, and shows the comparison between the Torquer 110 and the 116. Hope that helps.
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I have the 110 cam and it is very easy to drive around town! I was looking for the sound i used to have on my hot rod chevys back in the 70s and 80s. Everyone who has heard my car says it is the best sounding Z06 they have heard. My Z puts down 535rwhp with stock heads and intake and that is all i was looking for. But sitting at a redlight is such a rush listening to her idling. Gets lots of thumbsup where ever i go... Oh! And the power is incredible
#6
Race Director
Interesting thread, if I ever did a Cam, it would be between these same 2 cams, will be interesting to see more feedback. Maybe Jason from Katech will chime in too if he sees this.
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#7
Le Mans Master
My dilemma is choosing between the 110 by Katech and the Lethal at RacinRacin. I can drive to Randy without much of a problem, which would be a plus. I would like for the masters to tune whatever cam I get, so there will be no problems with runability.
#8
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Most people pick the 110 because it drives nice and has the power they're looking for. Some people are looking for near-stock drivability, are willing to trade 15hp for it and opt for the 116. Check out the graph posted by Quicksilver and you'll see the difference.
#10
Le Mans Master
Many videos of Katech 110 and some 116 on youtube. I'm also leaning towards the 110 due to the fact that here in ontario Canada, they are getting rid of the roller emission testing and will only be doing a OBDii plugin test......no codes, all good. In one Katech video, they bump the 110 cam idle to 975 vs 850 to smooth it out and it sounds perfect.
Decisions, decisions
Decisions, decisions
#11
Race Director
I do not want much of, or any, lope at idle and have discussed the Torquer 110 with a few people. They all believe the cam can sound almost stock with a slightly higher idle RPM. I think I am going this route on mine. I will call Jason directly and discuss it with him before the choice, but the 110 is a great cam and all reviews in here say the same.
#12
Drifting
Looking at upgrading the cam after my headwork and have decided on either the Katech Torquer 116 or 110, leaning towards the 116 at the moment.
From what I've read, both are mild cams, which is preferred. I've read that the 116 drives like a stock car, while the 110 is a little more aggressive.
Reliability and drivability are the most important goals here, I don't want a car that is awful to drive around town in.
I guess my question is... is it true the 116 drives like a stock car and how much different or worse is the 110?
Any downsides to getting the 110 instead of the 116?
If the 116 drives like stock, any downsides to getting one at all? Seems like a good choice for a nice boost in power without any sacrifices or issues elsewhere.
Thanks.
From what I've read, both are mild cams, which is preferred. I've read that the 116 drives like a stock car, while the 110 is a little more aggressive.
Reliability and drivability are the most important goals here, I don't want a car that is awful to drive around town in.
I guess my question is... is it true the 116 drives like a stock car and how much different or worse is the 110?
Any downsides to getting the 110 instead of the 116?
If the 116 drives like stock, any downsides to getting one at all? Seems like a good choice for a nice boost in power without any sacrifices or issues elsewhere.
Thanks.
Last edited by Werks; 12-26-2012 at 12:26 PM.
#15
Burning Brakes
Jawnathin, I have a Katech built car with one of their 110 cams in it and my car is in San Jose. It's going into the shop today for a fluid change/service and get an Akrapovic exhaust installed but say next week or something on one of the days when it is not raining if you are interested in meeting up to hear what it sounds like or want me to take you for a quick ride in it to get and idea of what it sounds/feels like let me know.
#16
Le Mans Master
I do not want much of, or any, lope at idle and have discussed the Torquer 110 with a few people. They all believe the cam can sound almost stock with a slightly higher idle RPM. I think I am going this route on mine. I will call Jason directly and discuss it with him before the choice, but the 110 is a great cam and all reviews in here say the same.
#17
Safety Car
#18
I'd split the difference and ask them to cut it on a 113. I've often wondered why Katech doesn't offer it.... 110 to 116 is a pretty big jump in seat to seat overlap.
Have you guys played around with different lobe sep's Jason??
Have you guys played around with different lobe sep's Jason??
#19
Le Mans Master
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I ofter wonder if I want something in the middle and found a post where Katech did a special order at 114 but not sure if they still will do it.........I suppose playing with the idle can please most.
I ofter wonder if I want something in the middle and found a post where Katech did a special order at 114 but not sure if they still will do it.........I suppose playing with the idle can please most.
#20
Melting Slicks
I have installed both. A 116 for a client and a 110 for myself.
The 116 would still give you a cammed car sound at idle however the car did not shake much as it was mild. The car drove great even without a tune (never drove it after it was tuned) so I would suspect perfect street manors.
The 110 sounds much more agressive and you get a bit more shake in the car at idle (some people are OK with this, others are not) It drives well but does have some very minor surging at lower RPM's at low speed. Most people will learn how to change their driving habits to get around this.
In short if you just want a bump in power and are not willing to sacrifice any civility of the car then get the 116. You will give up some power to the 110 though. I was OK with the minor surging that comes with the 110 as a trade off for more power.
The 116 would still give you a cammed car sound at idle however the car did not shake much as it was mild. The car drove great even without a tune (never drove it after it was tuned) so I would suspect perfect street manors.
The 110 sounds much more agressive and you get a bit more shake in the car at idle (some people are OK with this, others are not) It drives well but does have some very minor surging at lower RPM's at low speed. Most people will learn how to change their driving habits to get around this.
In short if you just want a bump in power and are not willing to sacrifice any civility of the car then get the 116. You will give up some power to the 110 though. I was OK with the minor surging that comes with the 110 as a trade off for more power.