Cold air intakes
#1
Racer
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Cold air intakes
Guys, I have been talking to my tuner who says switching from my Vararam snakecharmerr cai to a Callaway honker will net me some hp gains so i figured I would ask the masses to see which way to go.
1). Stay with the Vararam
2).Get the Callaway
3).Get a Halltech
I have Ahp stage 4 heads,ported msd,Ahp 116 cam,Vararam, working on headers.
Thanks for all your input.
1). Stay with the Vararam
2).Get the Callaway
3).Get a Halltech
I have Ahp stage 4 heads,ported msd,Ahp 116 cam,Vararam, working on headers.
Thanks for all your input.
#3
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Wouldn't bother switching at all BUT if you really want to, MF103 Halltech
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It sounds more like it will net him some profit gains. The headers will make a difference, but you won't find more HP with a different CAI.
#5
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More than a few sources claim that the vararam is notorious for lower dyno numbers. I wouldn't be surprised if you picked up 10-15whp by switching to a better designed intake. What I would be more concerned about is if the car is any faster after the switch.
I'm debating on doing this very thing. I felt like my car was faster on the older Halltech intake. I am using the vararam right now but want to switch back to a Halltech or Ram Air SS intake.
If you do decide to go through with it, please post your results.
I'm debating on doing this very thing. I felt like my car was faster on the older Halltech intake. I am using the vararam right now but want to switch back to a Halltech or Ram Air SS intake.
If you do decide to go through with it, please post your results.
#6
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More than a few sources claim that the vararam is notorious for lower dyno numbers. I wouldn't be surprised if you picked up 10-15whp by switching to a better designed intake. What I would be more concerned about is if the car is any faster after the switch.
I'm debating on doing this very thing. I felt like my car was faster on the older Halltech intake. I am using the vararam right now but want to switch back to a Halltech or Ram Air SS intake.
If you do decide to go through with it, please post your results.
I'm debating on doing this very thing. I felt like my car was faster on the older Halltech intake. I am using the vararam right now but want to switch back to a Halltech or Ram Air SS intake.
If you do decide to go through with it, please post your results.
#7
Le Mans Master
Its hard to say. Not a lot of people swap intakes around. They usually buy one and stick with it.
I tried testing a 4" intake with a velocity stack and no filter. I picked up 15ft lbs on the dyno over the Halltech intake but I had lots of surging on the highway. So there are gains to be had over certain intakes. Just have to find the right one.
I tried testing a 4" intake with a velocity stack and no filter. I picked up 15ft lbs on the dyno over the Halltech intake but I had lots of surging on the highway. So there are gains to be had over certain intakes. Just have to find the right one.
#8
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Vararam is great for the 1/4 drag guys...it's been proven to be effective. It's also been proven to be plagued with fit & finish issues, poor filtration from leaks/gaps, etc. Not to mention you lose some of the high-pressure effects of your radiator shroud because it needs to be cut up to fit the Vararam, without sealing it up. No way I'd run it on a street car.
Cant go wrong with either Callaway or Halltech. Neither of them are ingesting hot under-hood air. That's the key...IAT's will pull timing/power from the car because its breathing hot air.
I ran the Callaway Honker on my C5Z, and it flat out worked. Superior quality and fitment as compared to the Vararam...hands down. Only reason I don't have one on my C6Z is because I'm still running the factory tune, and the C6Z MAF is prone to turbulence. Callaway sells a diffuser to mitigate this, but if you've seen it..you'd say, why bother? With a tune, which you'll clearly need with your mod list, you'll be just fine.
I chose the Halltech MF103, but it is compatible with the Stock tune. No dyno results, but a definite seat of the pants improvement was noticeable. Halltech is the go-to CAI for Katech. Why...because they say they make more power than any other unit they've tested on their builds.
Cant go wrong with either Callaway or Halltech. Neither of them are ingesting hot under-hood air. That's the key...IAT's will pull timing/power from the car because its breathing hot air.
I ran the Callaway Honker on my C5Z, and it flat out worked. Superior quality and fitment as compared to the Vararam...hands down. Only reason I don't have one on my C6Z is because I'm still running the factory tune, and the C6Z MAF is prone to turbulence. Callaway sells a diffuser to mitigate this, but if you've seen it..you'd say, why bother? With a tune, which you'll clearly need with your mod list, you'll be just fine.
I chose the Halltech MF103, but it is compatible with the Stock tune. No dyno results, but a definite seat of the pants improvement was noticeable. Halltech is the go-to CAI for Katech. Why...because they say they make more power than any other unit they've tested on their builds.
Last edited by MTPZ06; 11-07-2017 at 01:07 PM.
#9
i had a calloway, and then switched to a halltech, My tuner and I did some street logging and he said the halltech was flowing more than the calloway. main reason for me switching was the accodrian style coupler going into the throttle body. I couldn't find a regular coupler to fit so i just ditched the whole thing.
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http://www.siliconeintakes.com/intake-pipe-reducer
Last edited by MTPZ06; 11-07-2017 at 02:34 PM.
#13
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I was wondering about the Halltech 103 vs. 108, isn't one for the stock throttle body and the other for the nw 102? also I think one needs to be tuned while the other does not.
#14
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^ I think Jim Hall came on here and said that the main benefit of the 103 is it requires no tuning. If you plan to tune and you're doing a H/C/I/102 NW build, the 108 is for you.
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#15
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No it is not better, and will not make more power than the MF103. The reason for the larger intakes is volume and the MAF read area.
The larger inlet at the MAF allows the tuner to start with positive LTFTs and work MAF magic to dial in the fuel trims perfectly. Having said that, the MF103 is the intake of choice by Katech, Livernois, Texas Speed, Scoggin Dickey, Kooks Headers, LG Motorsports, Vengeance Racing, ECS, around 12 Chevrolet dealers, Wong's Performance, and 75 other shops that purchase from us monthly. A much better choice for the mods you are going with. 501 cid, choose the 108R.
The larger inlet at the MAF allows the tuner to start with positive LTFTs and work MAF magic to dial in the fuel trims perfectly. Having said that, the MF103 is the intake of choice by Katech, Livernois, Texas Speed, Scoggin Dickey, Kooks Headers, LG Motorsports, Vengeance Racing, ECS, around 12 Chevrolet dealers, Wong's Performance, and 75 other shops that purchase from us monthly. A much better choice for the mods you are going with. 501 cid, choose the 108R.
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Here's one of the Jim Hall posts I recalled... https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1591672942
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I'm getting the impression that numbers are important to you. Dyno pulls are one method to determine power and drag strip timeslips are the other method. The difference is whether the car is moving or not. Both ways give you a number and they don't always have a direct relationship. Until you decide the method you prefer, don't change the CAI.
#20
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I went with the K&N Carbon CAI for my ZR1. I bought it primarily because it is less restrictive then the OEM, smoother air flow to the TB, high quality MAF and CCV confections are exactly where they are suppose to be, significantly lighter then OEM unit and it looks great and fits perfect. It’s pricy but IMO worth it.
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