Notices
C6 Corvette ZR1 & Z06 General info about GM’s Corvette Supercar, LS9 Corvette Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Suspension Setup for Street or Track
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Kraken

Has anyone built a 500ci LSX N/A street ZO6

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-10-2018, 08:52 PM
  #1  
441LSXTT
Pro
Thread Starter
 
441LSXTT's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2017
Posts: 639
Received 90 Likes on 54 Posts
Default Has anyone built a 500ci LSX N/A street ZO6

I was just curious if anybody has done it and how much power that they get out of it? I would think 700+rwhp. I have H/C/I now. But wanted more

Last edited by 441LSXTT; 02-10-2018 at 09:45 PM.
Old 02-10-2018, 10:17 PM
  #2  
Unreal
Team Owner
 
Unreal's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2007
Location: Gilbert AZ
Posts: 24,035
Received 2,313 Likes on 1,793 Posts

Default

It is the intake that limits the cars. If you don't mind cutting hood/cowl, sure you could make 675+, but more cubes, through a underhood intake is going to tap out around same, and the cubes will just add low end torque but the top end will choke it down up high.
Old 02-10-2018, 10:23 PM
  #3  
441LSXTT
Pro
Thread Starter
 
441LSXTT's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2017
Posts: 639
Received 90 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Unreal
It is the intake that limits the cars. If you don't mind cutting hood/cowl, sure you could make 675+, but more cubes, through a underhood intake is going to tap out around same, and the cubes will just add low end torque but the top end will choke it down up high.
So even a Mamo MSD would choke it? I have AI 280 heads with ARH 2inch headers. What intake would you recommend
Old 02-10-2018, 10:28 PM
  #4  
Unreal
Team Owner
 
Unreal's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2007
Location: Gilbert AZ
Posts: 24,035
Received 2,313 Likes on 1,793 Posts

Default

Yes, even a mamo MSD would choke it depending on end goals.

Intake depends on build, RPM range, cam etc etc.
Old 02-10-2018, 10:45 PM
  #5  
441LSXTT
Pro
Thread Starter
 
441LSXTT's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2017
Posts: 639
Received 90 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Unreal
Yes, even a mamo MSD would choke it depending on end goals.

Intake depends on build, RPM range, cam etc etc.
It is for a street driven 08 ZO6. With hwy runs. My cars makes 625rwhp N/A now, but if I could get 700ish I think I might do it.
Old 02-10-2018, 11:04 PM
  #6  
Unreal
Team Owner
 
Unreal's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2007
Location: Gilbert AZ
Posts: 24,035
Received 2,313 Likes on 1,793 Posts

Default

The cost difference is HUGE. IMO throw a 100 shot on it and be done.
Old 02-11-2018, 01:41 AM
  #7  
polyol
Racer
 
polyol's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2016
Posts: 267
Received 22 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

Would be cool though!

Yeah agreed, tune it for E85 or spray it.
Old 02-11-2018, 02:03 AM
  #8  
MikeOC
Racer
 
MikeOC's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2014
Location: OC CA
Posts: 482
Received 46 Likes on 42 Posts
Default

Old 02-11-2018, 04:22 AM
  #9  
nuke61
Drifting
 
nuke61's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2004
Location: Goodyear Az
Posts: 1,627
Received 142 Likes on 129 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 441LSXTT
I was just curious if anybody has done it and how much power that they get out of it? I would think 700+rwhp. I have H/C/I now. But wanted more
468 ci from Horsepower Research:
Currently we have customer making over 725 rwhp using this engine with no power adders, std FAST intake manifolds and 93 octane pump fuel and street friendly cam packages. - https://horsepower-research.com/coll...nt=41434516487
The following users liked this post:
441LSXTT (02-11-2018)
Old 02-11-2018, 07:37 AM
  #10  
441LSXTT
Pro
Thread Starter
 
441LSXTT's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2017
Posts: 639
Received 90 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by nuke61
468 ci from Horsepower Research:
Currently we have customer making over 725 rwhp using this engine with no power adders, std FAST intake manifolds and 93 octane pump fuel and street friendly cam packages. - https://horsepower-research.com/coll...nt=41434516487
Thank you. For that price I think its worth it.
Old 02-11-2018, 07:46 AM
  #11  
351carlo
Instructor
 
351carlo's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2009
Posts: 111
Received 6 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by nuke61
468 ci from Horsepower Research:
Currently we have customer making over 725 rwhp using this engine with no power adders, std FAST intake manifolds and 93 octane pump fuel and street friendly cam packages. - https://horsepower-research.com/coll...nt=41434516487
I'd like to see details of a NA 93 octane build with a standard FAST making over 725rwhp (assuming we're talking honest SAE numbers on a credible Dyno).

I don't recall seeing anything come close to that with 468CID.
Old 02-11-2018, 07:51 AM
  #12  
441LSXTT
Pro
Thread Starter
 
441LSXTT's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2017
Posts: 639
Received 90 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

If I could achieve 700+ rwhp I would love to build N/a motor. I just can't decide on a N/a motor or going with the UPP TwinTurbo kit. I was wanting to keep it all motor because it's kind of my daily driver and my other car is TwinTurbo.
Old 02-11-2018, 07:52 AM
  #13  
441LSXTT
Pro
Thread Starter
 
441LSXTT's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2017
Posts: 639
Received 90 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

725 is a lot n/a. Hope some other people can produce dyno results or other vendors can chime in so I can discuss my next build
Old 02-11-2018, 08:03 AM
  #14  
double06
Melting Slicks
 
double06's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Location: Potomac MD
Posts: 3,328
Received 374 Likes on 299 Posts

Default

There was a Silver Z06 on the forum here about 2 years ago (it was a 502) that a shop was advertising what they did I think they were out of Atlanta and it did 690 rwhp at the tire through and automatic. I think it had a standard hood so it must have been a FAST or and MSD under it. They had it on the strip (as part of them showing there work) I think it did like 9.8 at like 143.
Old 02-11-2018, 08:42 AM
  #15  
jayyyw
Le Mans Master
 
jayyyw's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Austin Tx
Posts: 5,583
Received 897 Likes on 686 Posts
Default

Ryne Cunningham has a 500ci motor making over 700whp. Josh B. has a 454ci making 700whp with a Mamo MSD. Different dynos, huge price difference.

That HPR short block looks like the ticket, though.
Old 02-11-2018, 08:43 AM
  #16  
jayyyw
Le Mans Master
 
jayyyw's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Austin Tx
Posts: 5,583
Received 897 Likes on 686 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by nuke61
468 ci from Horsepower Research:
Currently we have customer making over 725 rwhp using this engine with no power adders, std FAST intake manifolds and 93 octane pump fuel and street friendly cam packages. - https://horsepower-research.com/coll...nt=41434516487
Let me ask this, for a strictly 1/4mi / highway car, is it worth keeping the dry sump setup?

I don't know very much about stroker motors, but would there be any worry with nitrous or FI on top of this shortblock setup? Max rev limit? Compression ratio customizable?

Last edited by jayyyw; 02-11-2018 at 08:57 AM.
Old 02-11-2018, 09:41 AM
  #17  
nuke61
Drifting
 
nuke61's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2004
Location: Goodyear Az
Posts: 1,627
Received 142 Likes on 129 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 351carlo
I'd like to see details of a NA 93 octane build with a standard FAST making over 725rwhp (assuming we're talking honest SAE numbers on a credible Dyno).

I don't recall seeing anything come close to that with 468CID.
A 468 is enough cubes to do it, but it's intake manifold limited. The FAST must have been ported to within a hair of collapsing. I've read about a few 468" motors doing ~700 rwhp, but they were running sheet metal intakes and solid rollers.

Last edited by nuke61; 02-11-2018 at 10:02 AM.

Get notified of new replies

To Has anyone built a 500ci LSX N/A street ZO6

Old 02-11-2018, 10:58 AM
  #18  
Silver Bullet C6
Burning Brakes
 
Silver Bullet C6's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2008
Location: Lower RGV
Posts: 908
Received 66 Likes on 40 Posts
St. Jude Donor '10-'11-'12

Default

I have been debating the same sort of 468 ci build for my Z06. I live near HPR and saw their 468 short block price, but after researching I figured a reasonable HP expectation with a plastic manifold was still about 660-ish WHP. Heads for a top HP build will not be cheap, solid roller likely needed, E85 conversion... it all adds up quick. I think a lot of people underestimate the importance of great heads in making HP, lots of attention on cam size and cubes which are important but if you can't get the air thru the heads....
And yes, just about all the Vettes I researched making about 700 whp had metal intakes popping thru their hood or a large cowl hood.
Old 02-11-2018, 11:21 AM
  #19  
441LSXTT
Pro
Thread Starter
 
441LSXTT's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2017
Posts: 639
Received 90 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Silver Bullet C6
I have been debating the same sort of 468 ci build for my Z06. I live near HPR and saw their 468 short block price, but after researching I figured a reasonable HP expectation with a plastic manifold was still about 660-ish WHP. Heads for a top HP build will not be cheap, solid roller likely needed, E85 conversion... it all adds up quick. I think a lot of people underestimate the importance of great heads in making HP, lots of attention on cam size and cubes which are important but if you can't get the air thru the heads....
And yes, just about all the Vettes I researched making about 700 whp had metal intakes popping thru their hood or a large cowl hood.
My H/C/I ZO6 with stock short block LS7 makes 625rwhp. I also live in the Dallas area I see you live in Grand Prairie I live in Arlington. You are right that price is a very good deal and if I was guaranteed 700+ to me it would be worth it. I have 280ccc AI heads so I know they are good

Last edited by 441LSXTT; 02-11-2018 at 11:23 AM.
Old 02-11-2018, 12:24 PM
  #20  
Unreal
Team Owner
 
Unreal's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2007
Location: Gilbert AZ
Posts: 24,035
Received 2,313 Likes on 1,793 Posts

Default

Yes AI 280s are good, but 700+rwhp NA good, I doubt it. You would want a big solid roller, some crazy heads, etc. Basically copy joshes setup with more cubes and RPM.
The following users liked this post:
441LSXTT (02-11-2018)


Quick Reply: Has anyone built a 500ci LSX N/A street ZO6



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:47 PM.