[Z06] Z06 stall and no start issue
04-07-2018, 07:30 PM
#42
No codes until just now??? Inspect the crank sensor and it's related wires
first before going out and buying one. You may have unplugged or damaged a wire while working on it.
I don't think the solenoid was your problem. I think it was ground related.
The car is 12 years old now. Search out and clean all grounds.
first before going out and buying one. You may have unplugged or damaged a wire while working on it.
I don't think the solenoid was your problem. I think it was ground related.
The car is 12 years old now. Search out and clean all grounds.
04-08-2018, 01:41 PM
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04-08-2018, 01:43 PM
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No codes until just now??? Inspect the crank sensor and it's related wires
first before going out and buying one. You may have unplugged or damaged a wire while working on it.
I don't think the solenoid was your problem. I think it was ground related.
The car is 12 years old now. Search out and clean all grounds.
first before going out and buying one. You may have unplugged or damaged a wire while working on it.
I don't think the solenoid was your problem. I think it was ground related.
The car is 12 years old now. Search out and clean all grounds.
i also only changed the solenoid cuz I broke the plug. I also already cleaned all grounds and even added a new one and a new negative battery terminal.
04-09-2018, 01:02 PM
#45
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So the car threw a crank position sensor code when this all started, and after lots of troubleshoot and guess work, it turned out to be none other than the crank position sensor. Go figure LOL
04-09-2018, 03:11 PM
#46
Race Director
Might've been a good idea mentioning a code was present, regardless voltage.
Here's to your being back on the road, soon.
04-09-2018, 08:50 PM
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Good news: she fired right up after the new sensor.
bad news: she had a lot of bearing screech and metal shavings all in the oil filter.
Looks like another LS7 engine failure
bad news: she had a lot of bearing screech and metal shavings all in the oil filter.
Looks like another LS7 engine failure
04-09-2018, 10:05 PM
#48
after tear down it’s just crank bearings or turning the crank? I can’t see this equivalent as a valve dropping and destructing the entire engine?
04-10-2018, 06:49 AM
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i borescoped the engine earlier. All the valves are good thankfully. I think I’m just one of the unlucky 06 owners with oil pump failure.
04-10-2018, 09:29 AM
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Can't catch a break.
LS7 life exits though block.
Leaves one hellova of a mess. oil & coolant puddles.
There'd have been no doubt at first glance.
Now, this?
Update w/ progress.
Curious WTH went wrong, here.
LS7 life exits though block.
Leaves one hellova of a mess. oil & coolant puddles.
There'd have been no doubt at first glance.
Now, this?
Update w/ progress.
Curious WTH went wrong, here.
04-11-2018, 04:21 PM
#51
In post #23 you stated you looked at the oil and there was no bearing debris. How did you conclude that? You didn't drain the oil and forget to fill it back up again before running it???
I'm kinda at a loss how you could have three seemingly unrelated things happen at the same time.
1. car died while driving then wouldn't start. Wouldn't crank over BUT spun over by hand. Working on the grounds made it crank over.
2. still no start Has codes that we were not made aware of leading to the crankshaft sensor. Replacing the sensor made it start then....
3. mysterious bearing failure
Someone please bitch-slap me and tell me what I'm missing here
I'm kinda at a loss how you could have three seemingly unrelated things happen at the same time.
1. car died while driving then wouldn't start. Wouldn't crank over BUT spun over by hand. Working on the grounds made it crank over.
2. still no start Has codes that we were not made aware of leading to the crankshaft sensor. Replacing the sensor made it start then....
3. mysterious bearing failure
Someone please bitch-slap me and tell me what I'm missing here
04-11-2018, 05:29 PM
#52
Melting Slicks
When you pulled sensor out did it have goop sticking to it? If you had metal in oil and a it is a magnet (thus the metal filled oil goop sticks to it) was that causing issues?
04-25-2018, 07:27 AM
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In post #23 you stated you looked at the oil and there was no bearing debris. How did you conclude that? You didn't drain the oil and forget to fill it back up again before running it???
I'm kinda at a loss how you could have three seemingly unrelated things happen at the same time.
1. car died while driving then wouldn't start. Wouldn't crank over BUT spun over by hand. Working on the grounds made it crank over.
2. still no start Has codes that we were not made aware of leading to the crankshaft sensor. Replacing the sensor made it start then....
3. mysterious bearing failure
Someone please bitch-slap me and tell me what I'm missing here
I'm kinda at a loss how you could have three seemingly unrelated things happen at the same time.
1. car died while driving then wouldn't start. Wouldn't crank over BUT spun over by hand. Working on the grounds made it crank over.
2. still no start Has codes that we were not made aware of leading to the crankshaft sensor. Replacing the sensor made it start then....
3. mysterious bearing failure
Someone please bitch-slap me and tell me what I'm missing here
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04-25-2018, 07:28 AM
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That said, the motor is going to come out next weekend and will be going in for a shortblock rebuild along with a cam and some head work.
04-25-2018, 07:36 PM
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Sorry for the lengthy post!
Guys, I’m about at my wits end with this car lol. 2006 Z06. I just got done doing a pull to the top of 3rd gear and the engine stalled on deceleration and wouldn’t turn back on. No loud boom or anything. No smoke, no oil spill, no coolant. Car was even in gear and coasted just fine. I didn’t even realize it had stalled for a couple seconds till I looked down and saw all my gauges at 0. Got the car towed to my buddies garage.
Fast forward after a few hours of testing and brainstorming the battery, alternator, and starter have all checked out as good. I even had the alternator looked at for a bad diode and it passed. The engine turns over by hand and the starter will turn it as well.
The issue is when I try to start the car the starter engages but won’t turn the engine till a second or two after you press the button and then it turns it once or twice very very slowly, like the battery is dead (it’s good though). Obviously the car won’t start. I noticed a broken plug on the solenoid that prevents the male plug from the chassis from clipping on properly but I can’t imagine that’d cause the engine to stall while driving? All the fuses checked out good and from what I can see the grounds are good too.
I ordered a new solenoid but I fear even when it gets here it won’t fix the issue. Anyone have any ideas as to what’s going on? Again, sorry for the lengthy post.
Guys, I’m about at my wits end with this car lol. 2006 Z06. I just got done doing a pull to the top of 3rd gear and the engine stalled on deceleration and wouldn’t turn back on. No loud boom or anything. No smoke, no oil spill, no coolant. Car was even in gear and coasted just fine. I didn’t even realize it had stalled for a couple seconds till I looked down and saw all my gauges at 0. Got the car towed to my buddies garage.
Fast forward after a few hours of testing and brainstorming the battery, alternator, and starter have all checked out as good. I even had the alternator looked at for a bad diode and it passed. The engine turns over by hand and the starter will turn it as well.
The issue is when I try to start the car the starter engages but won’t turn the engine till a second or two after you press the button and then it turns it once or twice very very slowly, like the battery is dead (it’s good though). Obviously the car won’t start. I noticed a broken plug on the solenoid that prevents the male plug from the chassis from clipping on properly but I can’t imagine that’d cause the engine to stall while driving? All the fuses checked out good and from what I can see the grounds are good too.
I ordered a new solenoid but I fear even when it gets here it won’t fix the issue. Anyone have any ideas as to what’s going on? Again, sorry for the lengthy post.
06-07-2018, 08:40 PM
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Update
It’s been awhile since I replied to this thread but I felt like someone would like to see an update.
after tearing into the motor we discovered 3 spun rod bearings. The debri from those bearings took out 6 rods and the crank with it.
As of now the engine is getting a forged bottom in put in it as well as getting a BTR stage 3 cam and having the heads worked. Also I figured while the car was down I’d put a new clutch in and I upgraded to stop tech brake rotors with hawk hp+ pads and a few cosmetic things here and there. Should be a fun street car until I can replenish the bank account lol.
for anyone who’s curious the engine work alone is about $6k and that’s with me pulling the engine and putting it back in while the local shop handles the rebuild.
after tearing into the motor we discovered 3 spun rod bearings. The debri from those bearings took out 6 rods and the crank with it.
As of now the engine is getting a forged bottom in put in it as well as getting a BTR stage 3 cam and having the heads worked. Also I figured while the car was down I’d put a new clutch in and I upgraded to stop tech brake rotors with hawk hp+ pads and a few cosmetic things here and there. Should be a fun street car until I can replenish the bank account lol.
for anyone who’s curious the engine work alone is about $6k and that’s with me pulling the engine and putting it back in while the local shop handles the rebuild.
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06-08-2018, 10:31 PM
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It’s been awhile since I replied to this thread but I felt like someone would like to see an update.
after tearing into the motor we discovered 3 spun rod bearings. The debri from those bearings took out 6 rods and the crank with it.
As of now the engine is getting a forged bottom in put in it as well as getting a BTR stage 3 cam and having the heads worked. Also I figured while the car was down I’d put a new clutch in and I upgraded to stop tech brake rotors with hawk hp+ pads and a few cosmetic things here and there. Should be a fun street car until I can replenish the bank account lol.
for anyone who’s curious the engine work alone is about $6k and that’s with me pulling the engine and putting it back in while the local shop handles the rebuild.
after tearing into the motor we discovered 3 spun rod bearings. The debri from those bearings took out 6 rods and the crank with it.
As of now the engine is getting a forged bottom in put in it as well as getting a BTR stage 3 cam and having the heads worked. Also I figured while the car was down I’d put a new clutch in and I upgraded to stop tech brake rotors with hawk hp+ pads and a few cosmetic things here and there. Should be a fun street car until I can replenish the bank account lol.
for anyone who’s curious the engine work alone is about $6k and that’s with me pulling the engine and putting it back in while the local shop handles the rebuild.
DH