Notices
C6 Corvette ZR1 & Z06 General info about GM’s Corvette Supercar, LS9 Corvette Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Suspension Setup for Street or Track
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Kraken

[Z06] Against the grain

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-23-2018, 10:20 AM
  #381  
MickVette
Burning Brakes
 
MickVette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2011
Location: Tampa FL
Posts: 1,078
Received 188 Likes on 138 Posts
St. Jude Donor '13

Default

Originally Posted by jayyyw
Getting a value of .58
My .55 was 6900 but I was shifting at 7200 on the 164 mph passes during the 1/2 mile event which is .57. It was a little over 7100 crossing the line. According to that calculator, it is telling me I need about a .670 lift cam to be at .55 (beginning of the choke point). My cam is a .639 lift so I can agree that a somewhat larger camshaft would help this engine breathe a bit better.

Fun calc to play with.
Old 08-24-2018, 01:23 PM
  #382  
Da Z06
Burning Brakes
 
Da Z06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2014
Location: GA
Posts: 1,007
Received 98 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jayyyw
Ordered a velocity stack to test out on the hi ram. The 4.5" intake is great for ingesting a TON of air, but I feel the air speed can be improved. I did some testing a couple setups ago with a 4" intake tube and velocity stack and it was good for around 15wtq and 8-9whp. That's pretty substantial for something overlooked by many people.

I also want to experiment with my nitrous nozzle placement. Currently, it's mounted down by the air filter. Off the hit, torque seems a little low @ 700wtq. I think moving it closer to the throttle body should net 30-50wtq and maybe another 5-10whp.

Can't stop tinkering with this thing.
You will want the nozzle as close to the TB as possible and it will hit harder that's for sure.

Which filter are you running? The one I have has a build "quasi" velocity stack/bell mouth on it.

Old 08-24-2018, 01:57 PM
  #383  
jayyyw
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
 
jayyyw's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Austin Tx
Posts: 5,583
Received 897 Likes on 686 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Da Z06
You will want the nozzle as close to the TB as possible and it will hit harder that's for sure.

Which filter are you running? The one I have has a build "quasi" velocity stack/bell mouth on it.
yeah going try it out.

Running the halltech filter. It has a bellmouth in it but the filter restricts flow no matter how you look at it. I’m going to buy a different filter that I can attach to the end of the new velocity stack for daily duties.
Old 08-24-2018, 02:00 PM
  #384  
Da Z06
Burning Brakes
 
Da Z06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2014
Location: GA
Posts: 1,007
Received 98 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jayyyw


yeah going try it out.

Running the halltech filter. It has a bellmouth in it but the filter restricts flow no matter how you look at it. I’m going to buy a different filter that I can attach to the end of the new velocity stack for daily duties.
Got you and I can see your concern.

Here is a pic of the Superbee 4.5" with "bellmouth".
Old 08-24-2018, 02:10 PM
  #385  
jayyyw
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
 
jayyyw's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Austin Tx
Posts: 5,583
Received 897 Likes on 686 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Da Z06
Got you and I can see your concern.

Here is a pic of the Superbee 4.5" with "bellmouth".
Yeah, that’s the filter I have.
Old 09-09-2018, 08:57 AM
  #386  
jayyyw
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
 
jayyyw's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Austin Tx
Posts: 5,583
Received 897 Likes on 686 Posts
Default

So, I tried to run the velocity stack and the MAF did not like it. Put it on the shelf for later use. I will need to run SD if I really want to utilize it.
Old 09-09-2018, 10:16 PM
  #387  
Turbo2L
Drifting
 
Turbo2L's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2012
Location: Birmingham Alabama
Posts: 1,613
Received 110 Likes on 92 Posts

Default

Time for an SD tune? All the cool kids are doing it.
The following users liked this post:
jayyyw (09-10-2018)
Old 09-10-2018, 08:06 AM
  #388  
jayyyw
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
 
jayyyw's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Austin Tx
Posts: 5,583
Received 897 Likes on 686 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Turbo2L
Time for an SD tune? All the cool kids are doing it.
Maybe not this year. I just want to drive the car and enjoy it. Waiting on a few more things and I'm done messing with it for the year.
Old 10-01-2018, 12:35 PM
  #389  
jayyyw
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
 
jayyyw's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Austin Tx
Posts: 5,583
Received 897 Likes on 686 Posts
Default

A little update on where the car stands at this moment…

I was driving the car to/from work last week and on my last day, I noticed a trail of oil leading to the center of the motor. I haven’t had time to lift the car and inspect it. It’s been raining for a few days. Should have some time later this week.

I decided to clean up some of the engine bay appearance. I wasn’t happy with the way everything looked.

So, I ordered up a few things:
Red, tall, Holley LSX valve covers
ICT Billet valley cover that deletes the PCV port
Got some quotes for powdercoating my Hi Ram. They wanted $400 plus and I wasn’t about to pay that.
Ended up buying some VHT wrinkle paint in black and painted the manifold. I think it came out pretty well.
Wrapped the intake pipe with “titanium” colored heat wrap.

Huge shout out to Anthony(Mordeth) for the hook-up with his vacuum pump. It’s in good hands, I promise.

I received it last week and started the mock up on Saturday. I ordered the fittings and braided hose.
I’m going to pull the vacuum from the valley cover with a baffled fitting from Jegs. I might have to add
another baffle of some sort if it pulls too much oil along with it. From everything I’ve read, this will be worth 10-30whp in the upper rev range. Of course, lots of variables can account for different gains. I have seen where some people didn’t gain anything. I’ll set it up to pull 11-13” of vacuum at WOT, which seems to be highly recommended.

I also found a great deal on a 4500psi Nano nitrous kit from another forum member. I snatched it up since you don’t really see those come up often. The regulator needed a little bit of love, so I cleaned it up and replaced the internal o-rings. The bottle was also a few years out of certification so I got it recertified. A nano system is definitely not need for the amount of nitrous I spray right now but it’s going to be nice to have in the future when I get around to building a nitrous motor for the car. I asked around a lot before I made the purchase and a lot of people love it and some people hate it. I guess I’ll find out how it works for me and go from there. I’m optimistic.

I’ll most likely be getting an electric water pump in the next few weeks to round off the end of the year. I’ll still be keeping an eye out for a set of ARH 2” headers but it’s not a huge priority right now.

After the vac pump and water pump I’m hoping to see 660whp and I’ll be shooting for right at 800whp on nitrous with a conservative tune.

Excited.
The following users liked this post:
Millenium Z06 (10-14-2018)
Old 10-01-2018, 12:41 PM
  #390  
~STOLEN~
Melting Slicks
 
~STOLEN~'s Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2010
Location: Greenwood Indiana
Posts: 2,688
Received 164 Likes on 136 Posts

Default

damn man, so not really sure if its a seal or something worse?? that sucks.

i like the EWP and vac pump idea, and on the intake WRINKLE BLACK is my vote, my buddy did his in wrinkle black and it looks amazing!!! for 10 bucks you cant beat it. Ive heard nothing but good things about the nano stuff, just dont see it much unless its some serious setup
Old 10-01-2018, 12:45 PM
  #391  
Da Z06
Burning Brakes
 
Da Z06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2014
Location: GA
Posts: 1,007
Received 98 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

Jay,

Hope for the best on the oil leak and sounds like she will come back stronger than ever! Cant wait!
Old 10-01-2018, 01:49 PM
  #392  
MickVette
Burning Brakes
 
MickVette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2011
Location: Tampa FL
Posts: 1,078
Received 188 Likes on 138 Posts
St. Jude Donor '13

Default

Originally Posted by jayyyw
A little update on where the car stands at this moment…

I was driving the car to/from work last week and on my last day, I noticed a trail of oil leading to the center of the motor. I haven’t had time to lift the car and inspect it. It’s been raining for a few days. Should have some time later this week.


Excited.
I had an oil leak under the engine and it ended up being one of the small main cap side bolts was loose and working its way out. Mine was near the starter that was loose.
The following users liked this post:
jayyyw (10-01-2018)
Old 10-01-2018, 04:20 PM
  #393  
jayyyw
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
 
jayyyw's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Austin Tx
Posts: 5,583
Received 897 Likes on 686 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MickVette
I had an oil leak under the engine and it ended up being one of the small main cap side bolts was loose and working its way out. Mine was near the starter that was loose.
That's good to hear! I did loosen the pan this last time I did a cam swap. It's possible I didn't tighten 1-2 bolts tight enough or at all. Last time I had this happen to me it turned out to be the oil filter. It has a small pin hole and was leaking out the side. Hoping for the best, for sure.
Old 10-11-2018, 06:17 AM
  #394  
jayyyw
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
 
jayyyw's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Austin Tx
Posts: 5,583
Received 897 Likes on 686 Posts
Default

Finally got all the parts I needed to get the car back up and running. Plumbed the vacuum pumpand ran the car at idle and did not see any signs of a leak. Took the car around the block and saw some oil around the valley cover. Replaced the gasket and all seems well. It’s possible the oil was coming from the back side of the valley cover.

Hit the dyno tonight. Weather was a little bit cooler than the last time, but humidity was sky high. Ended up losing 3whp with the vacuum pump installed. Saw some small gains in the mid-range. Not sure what to make of the results but it is what it is.

Also had a chance to tune the Nano setup. Stayed on the 150 pill. Ended up making 835whp and 772wtq. Amazing results for sure.






The following 2 users liked this post by jayyyw:
Josh B. (10-11-2018), Millenium Z06 (10-14-2018)
Old 10-11-2018, 07:58 AM
  #395  
FNBADAZ06
Le Mans Master
 
FNBADAZ06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2009
Posts: 6,726
Received 634 Likes on 443 Posts

Default

Bad ***, bud !!!
That is odd about the vacuum pump.....how much are you pulling ?
Old 10-11-2018, 09:15 AM
  #396  
Da Z06
Burning Brakes
 
Da Z06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2014
Location: GA
Posts: 1,007
Received 98 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

835whp and 772wtq is just sick!

Congrats! Extremely well done!
Old 10-11-2018, 09:38 AM
  #397  
Pb82 Ronin
Le Mans Master

 
Pb82 Ronin's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2012
Location: Out back
Posts: 9,374
Received 942 Likes on 686 Posts

Default

How well does the car hook at that power level?

Get notified of new replies

To Against the grain

Old 10-11-2018, 10:09 AM
  #398  
jayyyw
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
 
jayyyw's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Austin Tx
Posts: 5,583
Received 897 Likes on 686 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by FNBADAZ06
Bad ***, bud !!!
That is odd about the vacuum pump.....how much are you pulling ?
Yeah, not sure what’s up. I did have the pass side VC and valley cover vented to atmosphere before. It’s possible that was actually working very well. Pulling about 13”-14” at WOT

Originally Posted by Da Z06
835whp and 772wtq is just sick!

Congrats! Extremely well done!
Thanks man!

Originally Posted by Pb82 Ronin
How well does the car hook at that power level?
Not very well last night. It was in the low 60s and light dew out in Mexico. I run 275/50/15s. May need to step up to a 275/60.
Old 10-11-2018, 10:49 AM
  #399  
lamboworld
Burning Brakes
 
lamboworld's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,168
Received 144 Likes on 122 Posts
Default

Are you still using stock pistons and sleeves?
Old 10-11-2018, 12:57 PM
  #400  
Josh B.
Melting Slicks
 
Josh B.'s Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2014
Location: Granite Falls, WA
Posts: 2,569
Received 554 Likes on 400 Posts
Default

That NANO system is really cool. It sucks that the results are what they are. I'm sure that with all else being equal, the GZ pump is worth a handful of hp. Just shows that A>B testing is hard for us mortals since it is often that weeks go by and results are never as perfect as the internet makes them seem to be. Glad you posted up the results man.
The following 2 users liked this post by Josh B.:
jayyyw (10-11-2018), Millenium Z06 (10-14-2018)


Quick Reply: [Z06] Against the grain



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:41 AM.