Sold the C6Z, now what?
04-26-2018, 07:58 PM
#41
Safety Car
I'm not a "Corvette guy" by any means; I am an enthusiast of performance/sports cars in general.
Your argument holds little (almost laughable) credibility when it's nothing more than assumption/supposition propped up with some magazine stats. I was somewhat skeptical at the 'on paper' differences and the resulting premium, but ignorance isn't always bliss. The Z06 is a great car, the ZR1 does everything significantly better.
Your argument holds little (almost laughable) credibility when it's nothing more than assumption/supposition propped up with some magazine stats. I was somewhat skeptical at the 'on paper' differences and the resulting premium, but ignorance isn't always bliss. The Z06 is a great car, the ZR1 does everything significantly better.
04-26-2018, 09:19 PM
#42
Burning Brakes
In real world driving, the performance difference is minimal (talking 0-60). Who drives 100-150mph or more on the street. The performance numbers from the Car and Driver review has the ZR1 at 3.4 to 60 and the Z06 at 3.6. One test on a 2006 had it at 3.5. The difference in the quarter mile is 11.4 to 11.6. When I went to purchase my Z06 I felt the .2 second difference wasn't worth the $30K difference. That being said, the ZR1 has a way better modding platform where you can get in the mid 600rwhp range without impacting drivability. The only way you get to 600+ in a Z06 is a with a big cam and that will not drive like stock. I know there are turbos and blowers for the L7S, but my shop doesn't recommend it for due to the thin cylinder walls. However, the big difference is exclusivity and low production numbers. It's cool to have a car that you rarely see versus a C7Z that are a dime a dozen. And they were $125K new and can be had for half of that now, so they represent a strong bargain. If you love the C6 models, you gotta love the top dog Corvette of that era. I think we can agree that the C6 ZR1 and Z06 are some of the best looking Corvettes ever made. To bad the interior doesn't live up to the exterior, but it's not bad. I love the gauge cluster.
04-26-2018, 11:31 PM
#44
Le Mans Master
I got rid of my c6z and got a c7z. I think my 2009 z06 was faster then the c7z06 I have now. Other then the seats—- The c7z is a fail. The dash is micky mouse, it feels like a heAvy pig compared to my c6z06. Get the C6zr1.
04-26-2018, 11:36 PM
#45
Pro
That's your retort? Brilliant...
RE: Performance --- I went 10.60 in my basically stock ZR1 with drag radials with room for improvement, as-is. Did you get your LS7 heads fixed yet?
04-27-2018, 05:22 AM
#46
Sorry my response wasn’t “ brilliant “ enough for you my all mighty forum troll. It’s apparent you are having a difficult time accepting the reality of the minor track differences between the cars. You aren’t driving a UGR Hurrican, so relax champ.
04-27-2018, 05:37 AM
#47
Race Director
I'd get a c7 z06.
04-27-2018, 08:05 AM
#48
Melting Slicks
This is clearly and obviously a response from someone who has never driven a ZR1. All you've done is read magazine articles and you think you can compare the two cars.
04-27-2018, 08:44 AM
#49
Safety Car
I'll let the figures speak....the ZR1 is challenging to hook with stock tires for a descent 0-60...probably due to that torque
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04-27-2018, 09:14 AM
#50
Burning Brakes
Good problem to have. I'd make a short list of what you think you want, and then drive them. That will make all the difference in the world on what you should get. Let that experience tell you what you want, not the name of the car.
04-27-2018, 10:04 AM
#51
Burning Brakes
I thought about trading in my car for a 2010 ZR1 last year. I have a 2006 Z06 with full bolt-ons and stage 2 heads. I took the ZR1 out for a test drive and punched it in first at around 20mph and it felt a bit flat to me compared to my car. It did pull hard once I got the rpm up to maybe 3,500. I was used to a more instantaneous throttle response that I get from my car in first at the same speed. The clutch also engaged higher up and could have had more wear on it than mine. The car had really low miles as mine does and I believe it was less than 3,000 miles. Anyway, it wasn't worth the bloodbath to trade it in, so I decided to add a ZR1 on at some point down the road. I would mod it to over 600rwhp and then there would be a noticeable difference for sure.
04-27-2018, 02:39 PM
#52
Instructor
Not the best retort. LS9 heads don't exactly have a stellar reputation either. Lower production numbers and the fact that far fewer people put aftermarket cams in them tends to hide that but they are a weak point.
Last edited by OhhhApieceOfCandy; 04-27-2018 at 02:39 PM.
04-27-2018, 03:31 PM
#53
Pro
At least someone is paying attention. Admittedly, the irony was only mildly implicit.
04-27-2018, 07:39 PM
#55
Racer
I'm gonna suggest something a bit different that you won't hear often:
Lotus Evora 400
It's a 3000lb GT car with a sturdy 400 HP supercharged Toyota V6, all in one unique package featuring Lotus' signature amazing steering and chassis feel.
Sure it won't be faster in the straights than the C6Z, but it's a scalpel to the hammer that the Corvette was, all while retaining the creature comforts you would expect from a GT car. People who drive it also tend to note how it's one of the most engaging cars ever made, as you'd expect from Lotus.
Reliability seems to have improved a lot in the later models as well. Maintenance costs are on par with a Cayman S.
Lotus Evora 400
It's a 3000lb GT car with a sturdy 400 HP supercharged Toyota V6, all in one unique package featuring Lotus' signature amazing steering and chassis feel.
Sure it won't be faster in the straights than the C6Z, but it's a scalpel to the hammer that the Corvette was, all while retaining the creature comforts you would expect from a GT car. People who drive it also tend to note how it's one of the most engaging cars ever made, as you'd expect from Lotus.
Reliability seems to have improved a lot in the later models as well. Maintenance costs are on par with a Cayman S.
04-27-2018, 08:39 PM
#56
Safety Car
04-27-2018, 09:47 PM
#57
Le Mans Master
I'm genuinely curious here, how s a ZR1 "worlds apart" from a Z06? The widebody on both allows for the same tires which makes the biggest difference in handling on the street. Sure the carbon ceramics on the ZR1 are better but are they really that much better? I'm sure the power comes on lower in the rev range on the Zr1 but above 5k a cammed Z06 will make the same numbers as a stock ZR1 - all of these seem like minor improvements.
I came from a cammed C5z (410rwhp) to my cammed C6z (510rwhp) and even the generational difference combined with the brakes, widebody and power difference only made my C6z feel like an incremental improvement vs a completely different car.
I came from a cammed C5z (410rwhp) to my cammed C6z (510rwhp) and even the generational difference combined with the brakes, widebody and power difference only made my C6z feel like an incremental improvement vs a completely different car.
Owned a cammed Zo6 and a 10-ZR1. Take the ZR anyday, but tne ZO6 is right there with it.
04-27-2018, 10:02 PM
#58
Pro
October 2016:
April 2018:
I recommend hanging a poster in the garage. Maybe even splurge and get two posters! As for "worlds apart:"
April 2018:
I recommend hanging a poster in the garage. Maybe even splurge and get two posters! As for "worlds apart:"
I am fortunate enough to own both a C6 Z06, slightly tweaked externally to 500 whp and a stock C6 ZR1. There"s no denying that in the pursuit of ultimate horsepower it is hard to beat supercharging. However NA horsepower is far more satisfying to drive, at least to me, until it is no longer practical to get enough of it to satisfy your needs.
I really enjoy driving my ZR1 with its abundance of power and very well spaced gear ratios that minimize the RPM drop in the upper three gears. Its stock exhaust is very satisfying but the lack of an overdrive ratio make robust highway driving far less so. A 7th gear may be in my future. I could be crazy but I swear I can feel the 150 plus lbs added weight over the Z when it comes to the twisties.
The Z on the other hand is pure joy. The idle roll puts the supercharged motor to shame.
The extra 500 RPM of redline may not sound like much but it feels more like it pulls harder and harder forever. I honestly can't tell the difference in speed between the two cars until 4th gear arrives. The Z06 front end feels noticeably lighter under hard acceleration than I feel in the ZR1. I find myself needing way more Z06 fixes than I do ZR1. My best description I keep repeating is the Z06 just feels more Raw, more the race car.
I really enjoy driving my ZR1 with its abundance of power and very well spaced gear ratios that minimize the RPM drop in the upper three gears. Its stock exhaust is very satisfying but the lack of an overdrive ratio make robust highway driving far less so. A 7th gear may be in my future. I could be crazy but I swear I can feel the 150 plus lbs added weight over the Z when it comes to the twisties.
The Z on the other hand is pure joy. The idle roll puts the supercharged motor to shame.
The extra 500 RPM of redline may not sound like much but it feels more like it pulls harder and harder forever. I honestly can't tell the difference in speed between the two cars until 4th gear arrives. The Z06 front end feels noticeably lighter under hard acceleration than I feel in the ZR1. I find myself needing way more Z06 fixes than I do ZR1. My best description I keep repeating is the Z06 just feels more Raw, more the race car.
04-28-2018, 08:53 AM
#59
Advanced
Thread Starter
Thanks everyone for responses. Love to hear the Z06 vs ZR1 debate as both are clearly awesome cars. I wasn’t sure if I would ever have a Z06, but was able to and loved it. Now I may be in a position to get a ZR1 and the plan would be H/C/I E85 so probably ~750rwhp. Whenever I read posts it’s always cam Z06 vs ZR1 but mod the ZR and game over. I don’t drive my cars much, even my daily. Daily is less than 5k a year. Cost me a little to own the Z and worth every penny. Never went to a drag strip but I think I would in the ZR at least once to experience it. I’m sure a lot of people remember their first vette ride ever and mine luckily was a 2012 ZR1 centenial. I think my Z was in the ballpark of that speed but can’t debate that torque and modded ZR would be fun to try against a buddy’s 720s 😁
04-28-2018, 11:39 AM
#60
_"SCOTT"_
There's just no comparison in performance at all between it and either the C6Z or ZR.
Sure it won't be faster in the straights than the C6Z, but it's a scalpel to the hammer that the Corvette was, all while retaining the creature comforts you would expect from a GT car. People who drive it also tend to note how it's one of the most engaging cars ever made, as you'd expect from Lotus.
Reliability seems to have improved a lot in the later models as well. Maintenance costs are on par with a Cayman S.
Reliability seems to have improved a lot in the later models as well. Maintenance costs are on par with a Cayman S.