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Old 05-02-2018, 08:01 PM
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I know it's probably explained in some obtuse GM manner in the manual, but in English, is it possible to lock my fob in the car, or will it not lock, or will the horn beep at me or what?



I have not had time yet to go thru the preferences etc.

What is you favored setup?

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I know it's probably explained in some obtuse GM manner in the manual, but in English, is it possible to lock my fob in the car, or will it not lock, or will the horn beep at me or what?



I have not had time yet to go thru the preferences etc.

What is you favored setup?


i would have to say yes. Not sure if they vary by years in that regard but fwiw I had a 2011 and locked the key in the rear cargo area with windows up. Car was parked in a storage spot and I didnít have onstar so it was a real pain getting back in. You should be able to set the number of warning beeps the car gives you though.
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Originally Posted by froggy47 View Post
I know it's probably explained in some obtuse GM manner in the manual, but in English, is it possible to lock my fob in the car, or will it not lock, or will the horn beep at me or what?



I have not had time yet to go thru the preferences etc.

What is you favored setup?



My 08Z will honk if I leave keys in the car. A couple of examples: getting out of car after shopping with bags in passenger seat, my garage setup makes it easier to get bags out of car from the passenger side, car will honk when I get out cause keys are sitting in passenger seat. I hate keys in my pocket feeling. anther example that I have noticed. Getting out of car with keys in hand, if I walk around the back of car, within close proximity, car thinks keys are still in car and will honk, this usually happens in the garage. likewise, this has happened to me in parking lot, which is pretty embarrassing, as if I'm causing it to say, hay, look at me, I'm driving a Z06. Very embarrassing!


Back to your question, is it possible to lock fob in car? It shouldn't but, as many of us know, these Vettes have electronic Gremlins. My 2006 FX35 DD is also not supposed to lock fob in car. A couple years back the fob got locked in and had to call locksmith to get in. Since then I have tried many times to lock fob in my SUV in garage, trying to duplicate that incident with the spare fob inside house. It refuses to lock with fob in car. I chalk this up to a possible computer glitch that day. Go figure
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Yes, it is possible to lock the fob in the car when using the passive locking feature. This is not a computer glitch. It is supposed to detect if the fob is still in the car and then not lock, but you have to remember that this depends on the car's ability to receive a signal from the fob. There are some 'dead' areas in the cargo area where the fob won't be recognized so the car will lock even though the fob is still in the car. If no signal is detected, the computer assumes that the fob is not in the car. This may also depend on the strength of the battery in the fob. If it is weak, the car may not detect the fob all the time. I have problems sometimes if I have the fob in my left pants pocket and the car won't start because it tells me 'fob not detected', so just because the fob is in the car doesn't guarantee that the computer will recognize it.
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Originally Posted by itomh View Post
My 08Z will honk if I leave keys in the car. A couple of examples: getting out of car after shopping with bags in passenger seat, my garage setup makes it easier to get bags out of car from the passenger side, car will honk when I get out cause keys are sitting in passenger seat...
There is an option in the Personalized Settings in the DIC menus for this. If I remember correctly, it's labeled FOB Reminder.
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mine will always beep and stay unlocked. until the one time it didnt and i was at the track with the windows up... Luckly another Z06 owners key worked to open the rear hatch...
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mine will always beep and stay unlocked. until the one time it didnt and i was at the track with the windows up... Luckly another Z06 owners key worked to open the rear hatch...
Seriously? Wow. How many key patterns did they use, a couple?

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they looked identical...
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they looked identical...


I'll be trying my key in a few (with permission, of course).

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I have a '13 and leave my FOB in the car when it's in the garage. Horn honks 3 times, but never locks.
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I have a '13 and leave my FOB in the car when it's in the garage. Horn honks 3 times, but never locks.
Good to know, gathering data.


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09Z and set to auto lock. If I leave my FOB in my golf bag and close the hatch the car locks.

A helpful hint you may want to try:
If you have a spare FOB (like at home), cell call to that location, put your phone on speaker and have the person with the 2nd FOB put their phone on speaker, then hold your phone next to the driver's door handle when the other person pushes the unlock button on the 2nd FOB. The dood should unlock.

In the few cases I have tried this on several C6's it has worked.

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Originally Posted by AzDave47 View Post
09Z and set to auto lock. If I leave my FOB in my golf bag and close the hatch the car locks.

A helpful hint you may want to try:
If you have a spare FOB (like at home), cell call to that location, put your phone on speaker and have the person with the 2nd FOB put their phone on speaker, then hold your phone next to the driver's door handle when the other person pushes the unlock button on the 2nd FOB. The dood should unlock.

In the few cases I have tried this on several C6's it has worked.
I know you said you have tried this and it worked, but I find it hard to believe. Locking/unlocking the door is based on an encrypted data stream that is transmitted over the air, which does not work when transmitted over a cell phone as they operate on different frequencies (one uses 800 MHz while the other uses 300 MHz).

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/remote-possibility/
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Originally Posted by kabdog View Post
I have a '13 and leave my FOB in the car when it's in the garage. Horn honks 3 times, but never locks.
I bet you have never left your keys in the rear cargo area.
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Originally Posted by dmuellenberg View Post
I know you said you have tried this and it worked, but I find it hard to believe. Locking/unlocking the door is based on an encrypted data stream that is transmitted over the air, which does not work when transmitted over a cell phone as they operate on different frequencies (one uses 800 MHz while the other uses 300 MHz).

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/remote-possibility/
I have personally seen it work on 4 or 5 C6s including mine. With mine, my wife was at home and I was 10 miles away when it worked.

We have a Vette Club breakfast every Tuesday morning and were able to have it work on several cars via call using the FOB 250 yards away. It didn't work at that distance without the phone.

Interesting that that same article does not mention how parking lot thieves use remote code readers to pick out you FoB signal when you lock it and then when you walk away they break into your car with the stolen code.

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Originally Posted by AzDave47 View Post
09Z and set to auto lock. If I leave my FOB in my golf bag and close the hatch the car locks.

A helpful hint you may want to try:
If you have a spare FOB (like at home), cell call to that location, put your phone on speaker and have the person with the 2nd FOB put their phone on speaker, then hold your phone next to the driver's door handle when the other person pushes the unlock button on the 2nd FOB. The dood should unlock.

In the few cases I have tried this on several C6's it has worked.
Woah, huh.

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I bet you have never left your keys in the rear cargo area.
So the distance fob to module that does the work, is short & critical to the whole deal. Hmm.

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I have personally seen it work on 4 or 5 C6s including mine. With mine, my wife was at home and I was 10 miles away when it worked.

We have a Vette Club breakfast every Tuesday morning and were able to have it work on several cars via call using the FOB 250 yards away. It didn't work at that distance without the phone.

Interesting that that same article does not mention how parking lot thieves use remote code readers to pick out you FoB signal when you lock it and then when you walk away they break into your car with the stolen code.
Have "heard" that & now trying to remember to use the door button to lock.
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Originally Posted by AzDave47 View Post
Interesting that that same article does not mention how parking lot thieves use remote code readers to pick out you FoB signal when you lock it and then when you walk away they break into your car with the stolen code.
I suppose if the code reader can transmit the recorded signal at the same frequency as the fob, then that would explain why it would work, but I'm no expert so I don't know for sure. However, those code readers only work with the older style RKE systems that used a fixed code. The industry standard for RKE systems changed in the mid 1990's to use rolling random codes, which makes code readers useless for more modern cars.
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Only vaguely on topic... but on some late '80s/early90s BMWs it was actually possible to lock passengers in the car. They had a feature called 'Double Lock' that would electrically uncouple the locking mechanisms and disable the entire electrical system.
Double lock could be activated from the F doors, and also the trunk. The typical scenario would be dropping someone off at the airport...
They get out from the rear door
Driver hands them the key to get their bag in the trunk
They close and lock the trunk, inadvertently activating double lock
Hand key back to driver, close rear door.
Voila! If the windows were rolled up, you were trapped inside unless the car had the optional factory alarm. Alarm remote would unlock you, but not all cars had one!
Those Germans, they have a pretty refined sense of humor...
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