Notices
C6 Corvette ZR1 & Z06 General info about GM’s Corvette Supercar, LS9 Corvette Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Suspension Setup for Street or Track
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Kraken

Cartek heads, cam and bolt ons dyno numbers on 2009 Z06

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-27-2018, 05:35 PM
  #41  
tekhombre
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
tekhombre's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 1999
Location: Garwood NJ
Posts: 1,370
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Eric Fischer
This thread is a flashback to the mid 2000's when there was strong tuner wars!
It sure is, nothing has changed. LOL

Last edited by tekhombre; 05-27-2018 at 05:41 PM.
Old 05-27-2018, 05:40 PM
  #42  
tekhombre
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
tekhombre's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 1999
Location: Garwood NJ
Posts: 1,370
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by jayyyw

Didn't the white Z06 cartek car get beat by a Z06 that was only making like 590whp, while he was making 630-640whp?
I don't remember any white Z06 that we did making 630 or 640 RW.
Old 05-27-2018, 06:48 PM
  #43  
username427
Intermediate
 
username427's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2015
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 4 Posts
Default NA 427 CARTEK Heads&Cam Package


Old 05-27-2018, 07:14 PM
  #44  
Da Z06
Burning Brakes
 
Da Z06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2014
Location: GA
Posts: 1,007
Received 98 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

Hummmm.....

I was able to pull 630 on pump but I my combo seems more aggressive that that.

FAST making that power on top lime that? 11.2CR?

What are the intake timing events on that magic stick?
Old 05-27-2018, 07:18 PM
  #45  
jayyyw
Le Mans Master
 
jayyyw's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Austin Tx
Posts: 5,586
Received 897 Likes on 686 Posts
Default

14.5/52.5 :]
The following 2 users liked this post by jayyyw:
Da Z06 (05-27-2018), RobGOV-DCZ (05-27-2018)
Old 05-27-2018, 07:31 PM
  #46  
RamAir972003
Melting Slicks
 
RamAir972003's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,312
Received 62 Likes on 59 Posts

Default

Either way the car and customer is happy enjoy the car.....
The following users liked this post:
RobGOV-DCZ (05-27-2018)
Old 05-27-2018, 08:46 PM
  #47  
nuke61
Drifting
 
nuke61's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2004
Location: Goodyear Az
Posts: 1,627
Received 142 Likes on 129 Posts

Default

What was the correction factor for those 630+ HP results?
The following users liked this post:
RobGOV-DCZ (05-27-2018)
Old 05-28-2018, 07:58 AM
  #48  
tekhombre
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
tekhombre's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 1999
Location: Garwood NJ
Posts: 1,370
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by nuke61
What was the correction factor for those 630+ HP results?
It's SAE corrected, it's on the dyno graph.
Old 05-28-2018, 08:52 AM
  #49  
reasonable suspicion
Melting Slicks
 
reasonable suspicion's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2013
Location: what ain't no country I ever heard of
Posts: 2,220
Received 324 Likes on 247 Posts
Default

Bad *** build and numbers!
Old 05-28-2018, 11:21 AM
  #50  
nuke61
Drifting
 
nuke61's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2004
Location: Goodyear Az
Posts: 1,627
Received 142 Likes on 129 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by tekhombre
It's SAE corrected, it's on the dyno graph.
Yes, I saw that it's SAE corrected. What I asked about was the specific correction factor for that run. For instance, see the CF for my dyno run that I pasted in the middle of your dyno graph:
Old 05-28-2018, 03:43 PM
  #51  
jleews6
Racer
 
jleews6's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2004
Posts: 410
Received 26 Likes on 17 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by RamAir972003
This thread is useless I have 2k that car does not make that kind of power period.....stock injectors? You must have no knock or at least 27 degrees timing in it at wot....mine is a low 23 24*
I'm not trying to argue but I have been working on and racing ls powered cars since the beginning and Cartek has always had fast cars that produce results. Im not saying anything about this car but in the past they have always backed up what they claim.
Old 05-28-2018, 07:04 PM
  #52  
RamAir972003
Melting Slicks
 
RamAir972003's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,312
Received 62 Likes on 59 Posts

Default

Dyno numbers can be skewd as ****, the ls7 has been out for years all of a sudden people are making 640 on pump gas, nah im not trying to argue either facts are facts this motor to make that power needs more mods than that like I said if they can prove me wrong I will let them build me a motor from scratch This isnt my first rodeo either .....hydraulic roller wouldn't be entertaining anymore to start getting up that high...I mean look at katech for example all these years they have been doing packages not once have I seen there heads and cam package over 570-580 and they have a variety of cams.....all im saying is 640 on pump gas is hard and then your risking of detonation, not all batches of gas are good sometimes....im sure they have by far a great shop and all but that's like coming on here and yea its hard to get a build from Reher and Morrison to get in its months ...and say I made 700 or something from that shop...to be honest when im done with this motor i may hit 610 but again im forged and a 430....

Last edited by RamAir972003; 05-28-2018 at 07:16 PM.
Old 05-28-2018, 07:38 PM
  #53  
JasonSB
Instructor
 
JasonSB's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2007
Location: Dallas/Fort Worth Texas
Posts: 183
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts

Default

Get the car dynoed on another Dynojet and see what it does. My guess is it makes a lot less.
Old 05-28-2018, 08:00 PM
  #54  
Innovate
Drifting
 
Innovate's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2017
Location: Sumter SC
Posts: 1,929
Received 206 Likes on 180 Posts
Default

11.2 to 1 on 93 octane with an unported fast and stock TB making 640? I am no expert, this seems a tad farfetched. I would like to see trap speed and 1/2 mile results. I am hoping for 600 rwhp out of my setup with a Vararam.
Old 05-29-2018, 04:25 AM
  #55  
tekhombre
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
tekhombre's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 1999
Location: Garwood NJ
Posts: 1,370
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Innovate
11.2 to 1 on 93 octane with an unported fast and stock TB making 640? I am no expert, this seems a tad farfetched. I would like to see trap speed and 1/2 mile results. I am hoping for 600 rwhp out of my setup with a Vararam.
One major thing to consider is that these heads were dimple ported so the intake runner and chamber are dimpled on this setup. That gives a much higher intake flow and higher hp number. Also it's on 0W20 MPT oil.
Old 05-29-2018, 06:33 AM
  #56  
RamAir972003
Melting Slicks
 
RamAir972003's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,312
Received 62 Likes on 59 Posts

Default

In theory; it alters flow by energizing the air boundary layer. Flow bench results show that the difference between a smooth/sanded finished intake port and a smooth textured port is typically less than 1%, which can be argued is negligible.

Basically that's better for carbarated motors, with fuel injected vehicles its a crap shoot.

The only time dimples or texturing matters is where the fuel enters the tract far away from the valve... since most fuel injected vehicles have a relatively short distance between fuel and valve, you won't notice a thing. On older cars with old TBI injectors or carbs that spray poorly, I'm sure there's some recovery of inefficiency, but again this wouldn't be the case with modern injection hardware.

The other side of the equation is the air characteristics, texture changes the way the air hugs and tears from the wall (boundary layer). If you have lots of texture, you also have lots of directions that impede or cancel each other, which is why it will alternately behave like a larger cross section or smaller cross section, depending on density and speed. At best you could see it like a resonator in an exhaust, in most cases it doesn't affect anything, in a few cases it helps, in a few cases it does hurt flow, but ultimately it won't make things perform as well as a bigger pipe.
Old 05-29-2018, 09:21 AM
  #57  
jayyyw
Le Mans Master
 
jayyyw's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Austin Tx
Posts: 5,586
Received 897 Likes on 686 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Innovate
11.2 to 1 on 93 octane with an unported fast and stock TB making 640? I am no expert, this seems a tad farfetched. I would like to see trap speed and 1/2 mile results. I am hoping for 600 rwhp out of my setup with a Vararam.
A vararam dynos 5-10whp less, on average. Either way, you should be over 600.

Get notified of new replies

To Cartek heads, cam and bolt ons dyno numbers on 2009 Z06

Old 05-29-2018, 09:24 AM
  #58  
jayyyw
Le Mans Master
 
jayyyw's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Austin Tx
Posts: 5,586
Received 897 Likes on 686 Posts
Default

In for trap speed numbers.

The dimple intake port has been debunked.
Old 05-29-2018, 01:27 PM
  #59  
MTPZ06
Team Owner
Support Corvetteforum!
 
MTPZ06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2008
Location: Honolulu HI
Posts: 35,883
Received 1,592 Likes on 1,335 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by JasonSB
Get the car dynoed on another Dynojet and see what it does. My guess is it makes a lot less.
This
Old 05-29-2018, 02:19 PM
  #60  
CASEWORER
Racer
 
CASEWORER's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2014
Location: Hendersonville NC
Posts: 377
Received 129 Likes on 67 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jayyyw
A vararam dynos 5-10whp less, on average. Either way, you should be over 600.
My build consists of Ported factory Intake, ported factory throttle body, Kooks 1 7/8 headers and kooks catted midpippes, Varraram CAI, QTP cutouts, and RPM Blower Cam. .650 Lift .230 Duration. Factory Heads milled .010. 550 RWHP 518 RWTQ. and that was thru the cats with the cutouts open. I consider this respectable numbers considering the heads have not been ported and the cam is relatively mild. I would say I could probably gain another 15 with a more aggressive cam and maybe another 25 from porting the heads and decking them another.010 for a total of .020 that would put me at about 590 RWHP. I am not going to dispute the numbers especially considering carteks reputation. But I will say that is one strong engine and hey every now and then you get just that a abnormally strong motor. I Just pulled my heads and sent them to AHP for their stage 4 treatment and street porting hope to get them back next week and hope to pick up another 20-25 RWHP. IF I don't get what I am looking for I might just give these guys a call. By the way I was on 93 oct. fuel


Quick Reply: Cartek heads, cam and bolt ons dyno numbers on 2009 Z06



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:51 PM.