Anyone step up to a GT3?
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furiousox (07-26-2018)
#22
Drifting
Yes I also have the MGW it does help alot. The prob with the turbo's is the AWD. Its amazing but you cannot get a proper track alignment out of the front with the driveshafts. Another reason is the Turbo's depreciate. If you got a 991 GT3 for 120-130 it will still be worth that when you sell it. Current 997's are still 110+.
I've driven both a 991.2 GT3 w/6 Speed Manual and a 991.1 GT3 w/PDK on the track along with numerous other P-cars (GT4, Turbo etc).
It's not necessarily a fair comparison as we're comparing brand new/practically brand new to a 10+ year old car. Also, major price differences.
The 991 platform has definitely made major advancements over the 996/997's so take that into consideration. IMO they're something that has to be pushed to be really appreciated.
As much as I love my C6Z and it's an amazing platform/bang for your buck, the 991 GT3's are leaps and bounds superior. Build quality especially as they're put together so well. A C6Z with proper mods/tires/driver though... different story.
It's not necessarily a fair comparison as we're comparing brand new/practically brand new to a 10+ year old car. Also, major price differences.
The 991 platform has definitely made major advancements over the 996/997's so take that into consideration. IMO they're something that has to be pushed to be really appreciated.
As much as I love my C6Z and it's an amazing platform/bang for your buck, the 991 GT3's are leaps and bounds superior. Build quality especially as they're put together so well. A C6Z with proper mods/tires/driver though... different story.
To me I would like to see 991.1/.2 GT3 vs C6Z/Z07 and 997 GT3 vs C6Z.
#23
I've driven both a 991.2 GT3 w/6 Speed Manual and a 991.1 GT3 w/PDK on the track along with numerous other P-cars (GT4, Turbo etc).
It's not necessarily a fair comparison as we're comparing brand new/practically brand new to a 10+ year old car. Also, major price differences.
The 991 platform has definitely made major advancements over the 996/997's so take that into consideration. IMO they're something that has to be pushed to be really appreciated.
As much as I love my C6Z and it's an amazing platform/bang for your buck, the 991 GT3's are leaps and bounds superior. Build quality especially as they're put together so well. A C6Z with proper mods/tires/driver though... different story.
It's not necessarily a fair comparison as we're comparing brand new/practically brand new to a 10+ year old car. Also, major price differences.
The 991 platform has definitely made major advancements over the 996/997's so take that into consideration. IMO they're something that has to be pushed to be really appreciated.
As much as I love my C6Z and it's an amazing platform/bang for your buck, the 991 GT3's are leaps and bounds superior. Build quality especially as they're put together so well. A C6Z with proper mods/tires/driver though... different story.
Yes I agree exactly. However I do still own my Z for good reason like you said. It's a hell of a car..Porsche are just a bit different. Brings out the inner German in me haha
#24
#25
Instructor
Can you expand on why the generational leap is so big? I ask because everyone says the newest P car is the best thing ever and that it's leaps and bounds above the competition then a new one comes out and people say "it leaves the old one in the dust." This is coming from a guy who's never even driven a Porsche but they can't be improving that much on what everyone said was already perfection, right?
#26
Can you expand on why the generational leap is so big? I ask because everyone says the newest P car is the best thing ever and that it's leaps and bounds above the competition then a new one comes out and people say "it leaves the old one in the dust." This is coming from a guy who's never even driven a Porsche but they can't be improving that much on what everyone said was already perfection, right?
#27
Instructor
Well I would have to agree with everyone in the fact that the new one is that much better. The 997 GT3 was a great car, but they redesigned everything for the 991. Its a much bigger car, wider footprint. Also they dropped the Metzger engines and developed a new 3.8 with a 9k rpm redline.Rear wheel steering, and bigger wider tires. Electric steering which is one of the best I have felt. Also the PDK addition, however the GT3 and RS cars get what they call a PDK-S. Its an updated gearbox and the shifts are soo fast it's hard to not love it..
#28
Sounds like a significant improvement. I'm not doubting you it's just from someone who's never driven a Porsche it's hard not to roll your eyes when you're constantly reading that the current car is perfection then 3 years later you read that the newest car was twice as good as perfection. For what it's worth, I considered buying a 996TT before I got my c6z just to see what the P car fuss was all about but in the end euro maintenance scared me away.
Yea I know what your saying though. Its hard to believe sometimes with the media and articles..Its not the greatest thing ever but the new GT3 is really good. To be honest, the old 997 platform was introduced around the time of our C6Z..And my Z I believe is a better car or close to it than the old GT3. The Z06 was very mighty in its time and still is. But the new 991 series cars are another story. They have the best gadgets and modern technologies the world offers and its noticeable. Less power, smaller engine, heavier car than our cars. But Porsche is the best at putting power to the ground efficiently. And it shows Id love to take you for a ride if your ever in South Florida.
#29
Burning Brakes
I'll have to try and drive the new 991 sometime soon then if it is that much better than the 997!
C6Z bang for the buck as stated is hard to look past. If you can justify adding on a real splitter and rear wing for serious downforce it makes them sooo much better. $100K toys are way out of my budget that is for sure
I had a fully built FD RX-7 with 18x12's at all corners, 550rwhp mild 438ci LS7, GForce GSR dog box, 8.8" IRS Cobra diff, JRZ triple coilovers, 2470lbs wet with 8 gallons of fuel (good for 20 min sessions) and it went a best of 1:33 at Laguna Seca with more left in it. A lot more. There was not much out there that could keep up with it. The engine was built to keep power low.... but torque high to try to fit into a specific class. After losing the dry sump belt (walked off)/seizing the engine and grenading the transmission all in the same day.... I ended up fixing it and sold it.
New owner put in a MAST 416, Quaife sequential gear box and more aero mods. It is fast... but I feel needs much more aero work to get to the next level:
C6Z bang for the buck as stated is hard to look past. If you can justify adding on a real splitter and rear wing for serious downforce it makes them sooo much better. $100K toys are way out of my budget that is for sure
I had a fully built FD RX-7 with 18x12's at all corners, 550rwhp mild 438ci LS7, GForce GSR dog box, 8.8" IRS Cobra diff, JRZ triple coilovers, 2470lbs wet with 8 gallons of fuel (good for 20 min sessions) and it went a best of 1:33 at Laguna Seca with more left in it. A lot more. There was not much out there that could keep up with it. The engine was built to keep power low.... but torque high to try to fit into a specific class. After losing the dry sump belt (walked off)/seizing the engine and grenading the transmission all in the same day.... I ended up fixing it and sold it.
New owner put in a MAST 416, Quaife sequential gear box and more aero mods. It is fast... but I feel needs much more aero work to get to the next level:
Last edited by gnx7; 07-30-2018 at 03:50 PM.
#30
Le Mans Master
Before I bought my first Corvette in 2004, I did some research on purchasing the last model year RX7 with the twin turbo 13B.
I was excited until I realized there were two types of cars - those that had the motor replaced and those that needed a motor replacement. That, and when I finally sat in one my 6-3 frame didnt fit too well. Still have a soft spot for them in any case.
I was excited until I realized there were two types of cars - those that had the motor replaced and those that needed a motor replacement. That, and when I finally sat in one my 6-3 frame didnt fit too well. Still have a soft spot for them in any case.