Information on 427 model
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Information on 427 model
Two months ago, about a year after after my 2010 Z06 was declared dead, I sought after and bought a 2013 60th Anniversary 427 model. I love the car but I have three questions bugging me and I hope this is the place to get answers. I can’t find any answers on the web with regards to specific differences between this car and the previous years heads. I don’t think anyone has done any work to them and I may just replace them. What’s holding me up is that when I look up, let’s say; push rods /2013 / Chevy/ Corvette / 427 (model) /LS7/ it will show 427 as the model. However, when I look up cylinder heads the same way, when I get to the model 427 is not there. Did they make a different set of heads for the 427? If so what is the day? Was the valve problem fixed? I know it has a different suspension than the Z06. The Typical answer is their the same except for the suspension but that’s not true. For one thing I have read the differential is the same but I drove at 80mph back and forth from Wichita and Kansas City in sixth gear with the cruise control on and the tachometer stayed a sliver below 1500rpms the entire time. It didn’t even lug or rattle going up the Flint Hills. To drag race this car one would definitely need a new set of gears. It’s perfect for me but I swear even first gear seems like it’s a numerically lower ratio. It’s not supposed to be, I found that out. What other differences are there? If no one knows please tell me where to find out before I put the appropriate aftermarket parts on. That’s my final question what parts are y’all recommending for the 427. Before I put a lot of money in it is there a canned tune that works well or is the $400 worth it?
#2
Team Owner
Same exact LS7 heads. You may want to read up on rod bearing issues that affected 2013 models with an LS7.
#3
Drifting
I built my low mileage Z06 as sort of the way I feel GM should have built the motor from the beginning, with an increased empahsis on durability. Started with the heads and then did a mild cam with superior 8620 core and lobes, to maintain that desired objective. No need to throw your old heads out, just have AHP go through them and install some Moldstar 90 valve guides for you. If your interested in keeping the car for awhile, I'd reccommend the PSI valve springs, Ferrera exhaust valves, hand porting (especially if you're going to do a cam,) and maybe even consider the CHE trunnion upgrade. All depends upon what you want to do with the car and how much you care to spend.
#4
Instructor
2013 60th Anniversary 427
Two months ago, about a year after after my 2010 Z06 was declared dead, I sought after and bought a 2013 60th Anniversary 427 model. I love the car but I have three questions bugging me and I hope this is the place to get answers. I can’t find any answers on the web with regards to specific differences between this car and the previous years heads. I don’t think anyone has done any work to them and I may just replace them. What’s holding me up is that when I look up, let’s say; push rods /2013 / Chevy/ Corvette / 427 (model) /LS7/ it will show 427 as the model. However, when I look up cylinder heads the same way, when I get to the model 427 is not there. Did they make a different set of heads for the 427? If so what is the day? Was the valve problem fixed? I know it has a different suspension than the Z06. The Typical answer is their the same except for the suspension but that’s not true. For one thing I have read the differential is the same but I drove at 80mph back and forth from Wichita and Kansas City in sixth gear with the cruise control on and the tachometer stayed a sliver below 1500rpms the entire time. It didn’t even lug or rattle going up the Flint Hills. To drag race this car one would definitely need a new set of gears. It’s perfect for me but I swear even first gear seems like it’s a numerically lower ratio. It’s not supposed to be, I found that out. What other differences are there? If no one knows please tell me where to find out before I put the appropriate aftermarket parts on. That’s my final question what parts are y’all recommending for the 427. Before I put a lot of money in it is there a canned tune that works well or is the $400 worth it?
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Last edited by 427C62013A; 08-16-2018 at 01:31 PM.
#5
Le Mans Master
A parts recommendation would greatly depend on what you want out of the car...1/4 mile, road course, street use, etc., or how you plan to use it. Most folks say a cam, headers, CAI, and tune and you are pretty good to go, again, depending on how many ponies you want. I would be willing to say gearing is one of the last things folks do to these cars. Good luck.
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Two months ago, about a year after after my 2010 Z06 was declared dead, I sought after and bought a 2013 60th Anniversary 427 model. I love the car but I have three questions bugging me and I hope this is the place to get answers. I can’t find any answers on the web with regards to specific differences between this car and the previous years heads. I don’t think anyone has done any work to them and I may just replace them. What’s holding me up is that when I look up, let’s say; push rods /2013 / Chevy/ Corvette / 427 (model) /LS7/ it will show 427 as the model. However, when I look up cylinder heads the same way, when I get to the model 427 is not there. Did they make a different set of heads for the 427? If so what is the day? Was the valve problem fixed? I know it has a different suspension than the Z06. The Typical answer is their the same except for the suspension but that’s not true. For one thing I have read the differential is the same but I drove at 80mph back and forth from Wichita and Kansas City in sixth gear with the cruise control on and the tachometer stayed a sliver below 1500rpms the entire time. It didn’t even lug or rattle going up the Flint Hills. To drag race this car one would definitely need a new set of gears. It’s perfect for me but I swear even first gear seems like it’s a numerically lower ratio. It’s not supposed to be, I found that out. What other differences are there? If no one knows please tell me where to find out before I put the appropriate aftermarket parts on. That’s my final question what parts are y’all recommending for the 427. Before I put a lot of money in it is there a canned tune that works well or is the $400 worth it?
#8
Racer
It’s perfect for me but I swear even first gear seems like it’s a numerically lower ratio. It’s not supposed to be, I found that out. What other differences are there? If no one knows please tell me where to find out before I put the appropriate aftermarket parts on. That’s my final question what parts are y’all recommending for the 427. Before I put a lot of money in it is there a canned tune that works well or is the $400 worth it?
Also remember the 427 is roughly 200 pounds heavier. And I'm not sure of the overall dimensions of the rear wheels with tires now being on 20" rims versus the earlier 19" wheels but, it could be a slight factor in the final drive ratio.
Other than the weight handicap, I'd say the acceleration at wide open throttle is still comparable 2013 vs 2006Z.
Bill
FL
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#9
Team Owner
Actually, the vast majority of people posting here have concrete evidence...their own particular vehicle. You however, who wants to see data, has yet to crack a valve cover on your car...
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I have real data posted on my out of spec guides, search my threads. I also thought there was a thread with lots of people who posted their results.... you could search that too
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Drifting
#14
Team Owner
I'm not trying to scare you into doing anything...I could care less what you do with your car. Its your "advice" to owners that often suggests there's really nothing to worry about, which is plain reckless. Besides, you have a warranty...let them pay for the repairs that you'll highly likely need.
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#15
Drifting
Once a troll, always a troll...Datrojan. The name change doesn't escape it.
I'm not trying to scare you into doing anything...I could care less what you do with your car. Its your "advice" to owners that often suggests there's really nothing to worry about, which is plain reckless. Besides, you have a warranty...let them pay for the repairs that you'll highly likely need.
I'm not trying to scare you into doing anything...I could care less what you do with your car. Its your "advice" to owners that often suggests there's really nothing to worry about, which is plain reckless. Besides, you have a warranty...let them pay for the repairs that you'll highly likely need.
#16
Pro
Back to actual facts on the 427 convertible. Advertised curb weight of my 427 is 3355 lbs. My 2009 Z06 has an advertised weight of 3180 lbs. That means compared to that car, all else being equal, it is down almost 30 horsepower. Tire height is exactly the same at 26.6 inches for the rear tires on both cars despite the different sizes. I would expect the acceleration difference to be representative of the additional weight.
I think Konadog06 might have a point about the throttle feel. My Z throttle feels initially livelier, more than less than a 30 horsepower difference relative to weight would account for. Full throttle still gives great results, you just have to work a little harder to get to it. Also since my Z has about 50 horsepower more than stock it is not a true apples to apples comparison.
Keith
I think Konadog06 might have a point about the throttle feel. My Z throttle feels initially livelier, more than less than a 30 horsepower difference relative to weight would account for. Full throttle still gives great results, you just have to work a little harder to get to it. Also since my Z has about 50 horsepower more than stock it is not a true apples to apples comparison.
Keith
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Great information
I built my low mileage Z06 as sort of the way I feel GM should have built the motor from the beginning, with an increased empahsis on durability. Started with the heads and then did a mild cam with superior 8620 core and lobes, to maintain that desired objective. No need to throw your old heads out, just have AHP go through them and install some Moldstar 90 valve guides for you. If your interested in keeping the car for awhile, I'd reccommend the PSI valve springs, Ferrera exhaust valves, hand porting (especially if you're going to do a cam,) and maybe even consider the CHE trunnion upgrade. All depends upon what you want to do with the car and how much you care to spend.
Ed Rufle
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At the 7/28/2019 Issaquah,WA Corvette Show.......I saw what I believe to be a 2013 60th Anniversary 427
Convertable. This Vette was a Darker Blue METALLIC with Blue Convertable Top......
I was under the impression that all these 60th Anniversary 427's were WHITE with Silver Stripes...
Anybody here care to offer me a link sharing the facts on these cars
Why were the CUP Wheels powder coated a medium Gray color......not the most attractive color
vs the Base Silver that is on my Z06's and Grand Sports
Chuck Auburn,WA
Convertable. This Vette was a Darker Blue METALLIC with Blue Convertable Top......
I was under the impression that all these 60th Anniversary 427's were WHITE with Silver Stripes...
Anybody here care to offer me a link sharing the facts on these cars
Why were the CUP Wheels powder coated a medium Gray color......not the most attractive color
vs the Base Silver that is on my Z06's and Grand Sports
Chuck Auburn,WA