Oil Change Place Blew up my LS7
10-30-2018, 08:53 AM
#41
thing knower
I'm sure it goes without saying, another shop must install the replacement engine, don't want a shop that blew up an engine installing the new one
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10-30-2018, 09:31 AM
#42
Melting Slicks
SO why is it that these motors die so fast vs a normal LS... I mean I put dry filters in on all my LS stuff and fill and fire them up.....
SO why do they burn up instantly? if the tank has oil in it, then the pil pump should be pumpin in 2-3 seconds?
SO why do they burn up instantly? if the tank has oil in it, then the pil pump should be pumpin in 2-3 seconds?
10-30-2018, 11:53 AM
#43
Melting Slicks
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SivaSuryaKshatriya (10-30-2018)
10-30-2018, 11:53 AM
#44
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Why don't these valve cover caps or cap decal insert warning labels come standard with all your heads packages? For one, new owners would know they have AHP heads and two, they wouldn't make the mistake at trying to remove and fill it. I can't tell you how many people here on the forum ask how to tell if their heads have been addressed, this cap would be a good indication and advertising for you. How to I get one?
10-30-2018, 11:56 AM
#45
Melting Slicks
Why don't these valve cover caps or cap decal insert warning labels come standard with all your heads packages? For one, new owners would know they have AHP heads and two, they wouldn't make the mistake at trying to remove and fill it. I can't tell you how many people here on the forum ask how to tell if their heads have been addressed, this cap would be a good indication and advertising for you. How to I get one?
10-30-2018, 11:57 AM
#46
I just don't get stories like these. It's simple - if you't can't or choose not to change your own oil, for the love of god, make sure you understand the procedure EXACTLY and watch the person doing it like a hawk! No excuses for this.
(I do feel terrible for OP, but I can tell you if I didn't change my own oil I would NEVER take my eyes off the person doing it so in order to make sure it is done correctly.)
(I do feel terrible for OP, but I can tell you if I didn't change my own oil I would NEVER take my eyes off the person doing it so in order to make sure it is done correctly.)
10-30-2018, 12:14 PM
#47
Burning Brakes
UGH...what a bummer of a situation. I think it is great that the shop is taking responsibility for it. That certainly was an expensive mistake!
That's a great idea! Do you sell the sticker separately? I'd like to put one on my non-oil cap...just in case.
10-30-2018, 12:57 PM
#48
Melting Slicks
First of all, I'm not a gear-head. Over the years, I stopped changing my own oil in my cars, and I have no way to change my Z06 at home anyway (I wouldn't even try). I found a local oil change place run by a guy who was a former lead mechanic at our local Chevy dealer, and has all kinds of certifications from Chevy/Detroit to work on Corvettes. He's been my go to guy for the first 1.5 years I've had my 2006 Z06. About 1,000 miles ago, I had the dealer replace some engine seals, and the car was in perfect condition (other than the air conditioning unit that needs to be replaced at some point). The car was running perfect, and I love that car.
So, I get an oil change warning yesterday, and had some time, so I went by to my guy. He wanted to do it himself, so we waited extra-long, had some lunch, and then came back. He still wasn't done. He then called me back into the shop two hours later. I figured he was going to tell me he found this or that wrong, but instead he tells me, "I screwed up, and siezed the motor." So, at this point, they are getting me a crate LS7 and having the dealer install it. Do I need to worry about the same old issues if they give me a crate motor? Anything I need to worry about in the swap out?
So, I get an oil change warning yesterday, and had some time, so I went by to my guy. He wanted to do it himself, so we waited extra-long, had some lunch, and then came back. He still wasn't done. He then called me back into the shop two hours later. I figured he was going to tell me he found this or that wrong, but instead he tells me, "I screwed up, and siezed the motor." So, at this point, they are getting me a crate LS7 and having the dealer install it. Do I need to worry about the same old issues if they give me a crate motor? Anything I need to worry about in the swap out?
10-30-2018, 01:14 PM
#49
Drifting
I don't disagree if you had your car at a dealership and it was under warranty. Is that the case here? Doesn't sound like it. I'm gathering that you took it to some side shop with a guy you trusted and thought knew what he was doing, and he screwed up royally. Good on him to make this right, but that's rare. You got awfully lucky if he's truly going to follow through with a new engine. And I would *never* take it to that idiot again.
10-30-2018, 02:07 PM
#50
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Even highly competent 'senior' techs can make a mistake.
The rate at which we make them is hopefully much lower than average, but we are still human...
We still haven't heard what the mistake was. Overfilled? No oil in it? Easy mistake to make when you get distracted by the phone, or you get a sudden parade of customers through the door.
Joy ride/dropped valve? That would suck for him, might have happened to you on the next drive!
The fact that he copped to it and is stepping up to make it right speaks volumes.
That is one f*ckin' hard phone call to make.
The rate at which we make them is hopefully much lower than average, but we are still human...
We still haven't heard what the mistake was. Overfilled? No oil in it? Easy mistake to make when you get distracted by the phone, or you get a sudden parade of customers through the door.
Joy ride/dropped valve? That would suck for him, might have happened to you on the next drive!
The fact that he copped to it and is stepping up to make it right speaks volumes.
That is one f*ckin' hard phone call to make.
10-30-2018, 04:03 PM
#51
Engine should be fine. It will come with a warranty. It was used in the '14 Camaro Z/28. GM wouldn't risk using an engine that they would have to repair under warranty. If inclined to get the work done, wait for the warranty to expire.
10-30-2018, 05:01 PM
#53
I don't disagree if you had your car at a dealership and it was under warranty. Is that the case here? Doesn't sound like it. I'm gathering that you took it to some side shop with a guy you trusted and thought knew what he was doing, and he screwed up royally. Good on him to make this right, but that's rare. You got awfully lucky if he's truly going to follow through with a new engine. And I would *never* take it to that idiot again.
Heading to the dealership now to make sure this is done right.
10-30-2018, 05:05 PM
#54
Team Owner
the fact they admitted it and are replacing it says all I need to know about the guy....let them handle it...you don't find many stand up people these days 
10-30-2018, 05:26 PM
#55
Racer
Sucks he blew it up, but props to him for owning up to it.
My previous Z06 had a brand new motor installed in it after the old one had bearing issues and failed. I noticed that there were some loose lines hanging from the bottom of the car after I got it that I had to ziptie out of the way.
It also started having some electrical issues about 2 to 3 weeks after the engine was replaced; you can see the issues in more detail if you look at the threads I posted on this site.
On the flip side, that brand new motor pulled hard, harder than the 9 year old, 6.7k mile one in my current Z06. Plus, it had a warranty, so I was flogging it around the track with no worries and doing pulls everywhere - I don't do that now with my current one, lol.
My previous Z06 had a brand new motor installed in it after the old one had bearing issues and failed. I noticed that there were some loose lines hanging from the bottom of the car after I got it that I had to ziptie out of the way.
It also started having some electrical issues about 2 to 3 weeks after the engine was replaced; you can see the issues in more detail if you look at the threads I posted on this site.
On the flip side, that brand new motor pulled hard, harder than the 9 year old, 6.7k mile one in my current Z06. Plus, it had a warranty, so I was flogging it around the track with no worries and doing pulls everywhere - I don't do that now with my current one, lol.
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10-30-2018, 05:53 PM
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The stickers for the "not an oil cap" are $9 shipped anywhere in the USA. They will for sure stop anyone who is paying attention from breaking and removing that cap.
We will have them on our website soon but in the mean time if anyone wants one you can send a paypal "gift" of $9 to HP@americanheritageperformance.com
https://www.americanheritageperformance.com/
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10-30-2018, 05:53 PM
#57
Melting Slicks
Why don't these valve cover caps or cap decal insert warning labels come standard with all your heads packages? For one, new owners would know they have AHP heads and two, they wouldn't make the mistake at trying to remove and fill it. I can't tell you how many people here on the forum ask how to tell if their heads have been addressed, this cap would be a good indication and advertising for you. How to I get one?
10-30-2018, 05:54 PM
#58
Melting Slicks
10-30-2018, 06:06 PM
#59
There is an old expression - *The only people that don't make mistakes are the people that do anything". Yes, it's horrible that it happened to a Vette rather than say a Kia, and if it were my car - I'd be both pissed off and very concerned about the replacement.
The fact that the shop owner is standing up and taking responsibility is truly great. I expect that he is going through his insurance - but you just know hat is going to cost him big time...
The easiest way to hurt the motor (oil system related) is to run it without oil - the next is to grossly overfill the engine - and then when the motor starts the oil has no place to go - and the reciprocating assembly tries to move the oil and stops dead, typically bending / breaking parts.
You might want to meet the lead mechanic that will be doing the swap and maybe even offer to buy him dinner after the swap - just to show him you appreciate his efforts....
The good news is that the car should be as good as new - but with a different number engine - it may lose some value,,,
The fact that the shop owner is standing up and taking responsibility is truly great. I expect that he is going through his insurance - but you just know hat is going to cost him big time...
The easiest way to hurt the motor (oil system related) is to run it without oil - the next is to grossly overfill the engine - and then when the motor starts the oil has no place to go - and the reciprocating assembly tries to move the oil and stops dead, typically bending / breaking parts.
You might want to meet the lead mechanic that will be doing the swap and maybe even offer to buy him dinner after the swap - just to show him you appreciate his efforts....
The good news is that the car should be as good as new - but with a different number engine - it may lose some value,,,
