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Old 11-12-2018, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by zaquhree
That is what I am leaning towards. Fixing the motor and parting it out since i have $6-8k worth of mods used resale value anyways
Not sure what this guy paid for his used LS7, but it came from a bone yard with a 6 month warranty. He did the swap, and sold the car. https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ment-done.html

You could always explore that option as well if you plan to sell it anyways. Unlike him, you can also sell an intact motor that just needs a refresh, as well as parting out your mods. Take it back to bone stock.
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MPTZ06 thanks for taking the time to show that to me. I appreciate that effort
Old 11-12-2018, 02:21 PM
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MPTZ06 thanks for taking the time to show that to me. I appreciate that effort
No worries.
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Originally Posted by Apocolipse
And then a HCI LS7 walks you because of higher redline and less weight 😁

Ask the ZR1 guys how much they like modded Z06 roll races.
ZR1 guys sleep better at night though
Old 11-12-2018, 03:24 PM
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If your intent is to have a blower car, put it back to stock, sell it, and snag a ZR1 or GS and add the blower.
Note that the LS9 also has titanium rods, so it's possible that as those engines get some miles on them the rod issue starts appearing there as well.

For me, I'm an N/A guy, so spending the money on a new rotating assembly and sleeving the LS7 block for a bigger bore was the route I took.
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Originally Posted by RedZ4me
ZR1 guys sleep better at night though
LS9 still has the valve guide issues.
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Originally Posted by jayyyw
LS9 still has the valve guide issues.
based on an ls3 - i sleep better than before
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Originally Posted by zaquhree
well for one a stock ZR1 been faster than most heads and cam Z06's

My car is the lightest Z06 so that is an advantage for me

ZR1 pulls hard past the stock 6,500 redline once you start modding them...

I don't roll race much either, I like using my car at the 1/4 mile
Stock zr1’s are definitely not faster than a H/C z06.

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Old 11-13-2018, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 68birdls1


Stock zr1’s are definitely not faster than a H/C z06.

fact: most h/c ls7’s run mid to high 10’s in the 1/4 mile @ 132-138

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c6-corvette-zr1-and-z06/2964967-10-33-bone-stock-zr1-on-drag-radials-new-record.html

Sorry you're wrong on that. I believe someone ended up going 10.20's stock however this is good enough to prove the point

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Old 11-13-2018, 10:39 AM
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^^^ This shouldn't start an argument, the ZR1 engine has much greater potential for higher hp - being boosted - that we all know and should agree on, all while remaining much more streetable
Old 11-13-2018, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RedZ4me
^^^ This shouldn't start an argument, the ZR1 engine has much greater potential for higher hp - being boosted - that we all know and should agree on, all while remaining much more streetable
Exactly. Idk why people get offended so easily. Facts are facts. I have gotten almost 0 constructive advice on this post. Mainly salty Z06 owners lol
Old 11-13-2018, 10:46 AM
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I had a Z06, loved it, def'ly not knocking it BUT call it for what it is - great engine overall (sans head issues) but not good for boost as we all know - and you reach a point where streetability suffers after a certain level.
Old 11-13-2018, 10:51 AM
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They're great cars with an amazing motor. However this motor is the kind that needs to be checked every other season for rod wear, oil contaminates and valve guide issues. There's a reason this is seemingly is the per capita most failed LS motor...too much technology for average Joe to live with
Old 11-13-2018, 11:02 AM
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Build a better N/A motor is what i personally would do. I plan to go 500ci if mine ever has issues. Most of the posts on the FB page would seem concerning until you realize that most new Z06 owners are young, came from less dependent cars, and beat on the engine without regard. I haven't seem many veteran owners that really take care of their stuff (not just oil changes) having a ton of issues besides the valves, and that's a 20k miles problem it seems now, so it's fine.
Old 11-13-2018, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by zaquhree

Exactly. Idk why people get offended so easily. Facts are facts. I have gotten almost 0 constructive advice on this post. Mainly salty Z06 owners lol
Not sure what you expected when you immediately bash on their engine in the thread title...

Nice comparison by the way with the Z06 vs ZR1. Take a look at the fast list you may learn something.
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Originally Posted by zaquhree

Exactly. Idk why people get offended so easily. Facts are facts. I have gotten almost 0 constructive advice on this post. Mainly salty Z06 owners lol
Well, you did start the thread off by calling the LS7 "junk"
As this non-salty Z06 owner said above, if your desire is to have a forced induction car making big power, put the Z06 back to stock and sell it. Then go buy a ZR1 or a GS (with the intent on boosting it).
You'll be ahead money wise, with the possibility of retaining some sense of driving civility.

Now, comparing performance envelopes of a modded N/A car versus a stock F/I car are somewhat silly (to me), but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to compare power to weight ratios
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Originally Posted by zaquhree
well for one a stock ZR1 been faster than most heads and cam Z06's

My car is the lightest Z06 so that is an advantage for me

ZR1 pulls hard past the stock 6,500 redline once you start modding them...

I don't roll race much either, I like using my car at the 1/4 mile
well just by your title “junk” Ls7 I can already tell you don’t know what you are talking about. Ls7 will probably go down as the best Production engine Gm ever produced. Yes the heads are a issue but Ls9 has the same issue. You can fix heads. Stock Zr1’s are not faster than a well put together H/C Zo6. I ran door to door with a 750+rw Zr1 with my h/c z making 615rw. That raw Na power is hard to beat. I would keep your’s..sleeve it, forged bottom end, pistons and let it eat.

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Originally Posted by whitec5sc

well just by your title “junk” Ls7 I can already tell you don’t know what you are talking about. Ls7 will probably go down as the best Production engine Gm ever produced. Yes the heads are a issue but Ls9 has the same issue. You can fix heads. Stock Zr1’s are not faster than a well put together H/C Zo6. I ran door to door with a 750+rw Zr1 with my h/c z making 615rw. That raw Na power is hard to beat. I would keep your’s..sleeve it, forged bottom end, pistons and let it eat.
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Originally Posted by whitec5sc

well just by your title “junk” Ls7 I can already tell you don’t know what you are talking about. Ls7 will probably go down as the best Production engine Gm ever produced. Yes the heads are a issue but Ls9 has the same issue. You can fix heads. Stock Zr1’s are not faster than a well put together H/C Zo6. I ran door to door with a 750+rw Zr1 with my h/c z making 615rw. That raw Na power is hard to beat. I would keep your’s..sleeve it, forged bottom end, pistons and let it eat.
.....back to everyday usable/docile, zr1 wins even at 750hp vs your 615
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Originally Posted by RedZ4me


.....back to everyday usable/docile, zr1 wins even at 750hp vs your 615
Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify your purchase!


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