2008 Z06 Fan causing voltage drop and charging system failure
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
2008 Z06 Fan causing voltage drop and charging system failure
Hello all.
I recently ran my 08 C6 Z06 on the track. After a few laps, I hit 230 Oil 240 Water temps. All is good with pressure.
However, once the fans come on, I start losing voltage immediately. The voltages drop rapidly from 14 to 11.5 and I get a charging system warning.
I checked the connections and they were fine, no melting or burned smell. There is a good ground from the harness side pigtail.
To drive home from the track I unplugged the connections to the fan and I experienced the most stable voltages I have ever seen with this car. Normally the DIC reads 13.3-13.9 and fluctuates wildly. With the fans disconnected I had a consistent 14.1 volts all the way home, 192 coolant temp in 70 degree weather at night. I only saw the coolant get up to 212 when I got stuck in traffic for 2 or 3 minutes.
Has anyone had this happen before?
I recently ran my 08 C6 Z06 on the track. After a few laps, I hit 230 Oil 240 Water temps. All is good with pressure.
However, once the fans come on, I start losing voltage immediately. The voltages drop rapidly from 14 to 11.5 and I get a charging system warning.
I checked the connections and they were fine, no melting or burned smell. There is a good ground from the harness side pigtail.
To drive home from the track I unplugged the connections to the fan and I experienced the most stable voltages I have ever seen with this car. Normally the DIC reads 13.3-13.9 and fluctuates wildly. With the fans disconnected I had a consistent 14.1 volts all the way home, 192 coolant temp in 70 degree weather at night. I only saw the coolant get up to 212 when I got stuck in traffic for 2 or 3 minutes.
Has anyone had this happen before?
#2
Yes - the stock alt sucks BIG TIME and is the #1 main issue with electrical grems in this car. When its hot it is even worse.
Save up for a mechman / billetech and your issues will go away.
Save up for a mechman / billetech and your issues will go away.
#3
#5
How is the alt not a problem when the exact issue is electrical load related lol
The alt is under sized, the fans go to 90% load at high temps, the alt gives less voltag and less amps when hot...directly related to your problem.
This is also why C6 are so bad on batteries...the stock alt doesnt provide high enough voltage to fully charge.
The alt is under sized, the fans go to 90% load at high temps, the alt gives less voltag and less amps when hot...directly related to your problem.
This is also why C6 are so bad on batteries...the stock alt doesnt provide high enough voltage to fully charge.
#7
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
How is the alt not a problem when the exact issue is electrical load related lol
The alt is under sized, the fans go to 90% load at high temps, the alt gives less voltag and less amps when hot...directly related to your problem.
This is also why C6 are so bad on batteries...the stock alt doesnt provide high enough voltage to fully charge.
The alt is under sized, the fans go to 90% load at high temps, the alt gives less voltag and less amps when hot...directly related to your problem.
This is also why C6 are so bad on batteries...the stock alt doesnt provide high enough voltage to fully charge.
#8
Team Owner
My gut says alternator as well...but a simple load test with a multi-meter can check that box.
#10
If I remember correctly, the stock fan can pull a max of 24 amps at full speed (I think the factory tune limits max speed to 90% ?). I believe the stock OEM alternator puts out a maximum of 145 A. My math says that's 16% of the total output.
Don't know if it's a direct correlation, but a 16% of 14.1 volts is........ 11.8 volts.
Don't know if it's a direct correlation, but a 16% of 14.1 volts is........ 11.8 volts.
#12
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
If I remember correctly, the stock fan can pull a max of 24 amps at full speed (I think the factory tune limits max speed to 90% ?). I believe the stock OEM alternator puts out a maximum of 145 A. My math says that's 16% of the total output.
Don't know if it's a direct correlation, but a 16% of 14.1 volts is........ 11.8 volts.
Don't know if it's a direct correlation, but a 16% of 14.1 volts is........ 11.8 volts.
#13
Drifting
If the stock fan motor is going, it could put more strain on your electrical system than normal trying to keep up with rising temps. My stock fan actually burnt up my fuse box. Replaced the fan with Prospeed dual setup and no more issues. Alternator was replaced with a Mechman, but only to keep up with the increased draw from the dual fans.
#15
Racer
Very typical. I had the same problem. Replace it with the Mechman alternator and a big *** cable from the alternator to the fuse block. Contact Bret (Blownbluez06) here on the forum. He's going to PRI this week but he will take great care of you. Read the reviews.
I now have 14.5+ volts at idle with two 40a Spal fans, two stereo amplifiers at full volume, etc.
I now have 14.5+ volts at idle with two 40a Spal fans, two stereo amplifiers at full volume, etc.
#16
Racer
Battery won't fix the problem. Many of us have tried that. The alternator/cable combo is the fix.
#17
Racer
Your fan most likely failed due to a low voltage problem.
#18
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Seeing as my alternator is brand new and under warranty, if I swap it out it wouldn't be to an aftermarket one just yet. Can you shed some light on the cable to the fuse block routing and terminals/locations?
#19
Stock replacement have the same problem unfortunately. The only fix is the redesign.