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Old 01-10-2019, 12:31 PM
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Ahhhhh.
But we have a new governor now.
I'm sure, with a just a FEW more laws, he can fix things.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:42 PM
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I'm looking forward to moving back, but I have a house less than 10 minutes from the beach. I don't have any idea why someone would live there if they weren't near the beach, because 45 minutes inland and it's almost as hot as Phoenix.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:45 PM
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I try to avoid Ęalifornia at all costs. A lot of folks from there moving into Texas lately, I swear we need a Texas history exam much like folks from outside of the US have to take in order to immigrate into the US.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:51 PM
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I'm heading back to the communist state in a few months. Never had a problem with my car there. Not yet.
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I'm heading back to the communist state in a few months. Never had a problem with my car there. Not yet.
Iím gonna be curious how it goes for you, do you still have cats? Especially next inspection on the Cali tag.
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No cats. It will be registered in my home state before I get back.
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Old 01-10-2019, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Patriot Six View Post
No cats. It will be registered in my home state before I get back.
Nice! Thatís even better! Curious if they leave you alone or not, I still have about a year before I come out.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:18 PM
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I've had modified cars in Cali for years. I never had any issues getting stopped, but none of my cars were obnoxiously loud nor did I drive like a lunatic all over the place.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Patriot Six View Post
I've had modified cars in Cali for years. I never had any issues getting stopped, but none of my cars were obnoxiously loud nor did I drive like a lunatic all over the place.
Yeah all bets are off if thatís the case. When Iím referring to be messed with itís assumed minding your business just cruising.

would you consider billy Bullets and no cats obnoxiously load? I mean its subjective I guess, Swapping exhausts is something thatís not a hard or expensive solution if it becomes a problem.

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Old 01-10-2019, 03:57 PM
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I would not, but that's a very subjective question. It's not nearly as obnoxious as some of the imports I've seen, or a Harley for that matter.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:57 PM
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I ran my B&B fusions wide open 99% of the time when I lived in OC, albeit w/ OE manifolds & cats...but never had an issue.
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Old 01-10-2019, 04:19 PM
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agree. mudslides, earthquakes, fires and drought... good times
yep. Iíll put up with a little cold weather And some snow now and then in the Midwest.

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Old 01-10-2019, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MTPZ06 View Post
I ran my B&B fusions wide open 99% of the time when I lived in OC, albeit w/ OE manifolds & cats...but never had an issue.
Fusions would be my COA1 if I made a change maybe the Akraís If a deal came along, I love the bullets sound on my set up, plan to keep it that way if possible but yeah exhaust sound and drone all that very subjective.
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Old 01-10-2019, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 73DBG View Post
Yeah all bets are off if thatís the case. When Iím referring to be messed with itís assumed minding your business just cruising.
would you consider billy Bullets and no cats obnoxiously load? I mean its subjective I guess, Swapping exhausts is something thatís not a hard or expensive solution if it becomes a problem.
The limit in California is 95 dB, done at a test station. Every state, per SEMA, has exhaust noise laws. At least California has objective criteria, and not just subjective.

https://www.semasan.com/resources/ex...ise-laws-state

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Old 01-11-2019, 10:48 AM
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SEMA's analysis:
www.sema.org/sema-enews/2019/02/fact-vs-fiction...
The mandatory trip to the smog ref... will he JUST be checking noise, or checking emissions legality of the whole f*ckin' car?
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Old 01-11-2019, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Nowanker View Post
SEMA's analysis:
www.sema.org/sema-enews/2019/02/fact-vs-fiction...
The mandatory trip to the smog ref... will he JUST be checking noise, or checking emissions legality of the whole f*ckin' car?
probably all of it you are required for California tags, if not than your all good....maybe lol
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:38 PM
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I just hope the liberals don't take control in AZ, where we are relatively free to deal with our own lives vs gov't controlled. The vehicle check every 2 years only checks the gas cap and to see if any OBDII codes are present. Outside of the Phoenix and Tucson area, no emission check is required. The condition of anything else is only checked at the original registration or when law enforcement spots an obvious problem.
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Originally Posted by Nowanker View Post
SEMA's analysis:
www.sema.org/sema-enews/2019/02/fact-vs-fiction...
The mandatory trip to the smog ref... will he JUST be checking noise, or checking emissions legality of the whole f*ckin' car?

The guys with just a cat back with be good. The guys with missing equipment will not want a trip to the referee because even if it is under 95db it may fail in other ways.
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:08 PM
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The guys with just a cat back with be good. The guys with missing equipment will not want a trip to the referee because even if it is under 95db it may fail in other ways.
Exactly my question. Will the whole car be subject to scrutiny, or just this one area cited?
Or will it be luck-of-the-draw, depending on how big a d*ck your inspector wants to be?
Way too much vagueness in the law for my taste.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:34 PM
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The reports of the $1K fine all over YT and various forums, may not be all accurate.

According to:

https://jalopnik.com/why-people-are-...s-e-1831620651

https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/2019-JC-BAIL.pdf

The fine for muffler removal is $25 plus additional penalties & fees potentially bringing the total to $197.

Avoid the ghetto whistle tip mods those, rightfully so, get hit the hardest in fines and fees.

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