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Old 02-06-2019, 05:31 PM
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I purchased these LS7 heads used and was told they came from Lingenfelter. After talking to Linginfelter it appears they didn’t come from them. I am happy with the heads as the guides are tight and they are CNC ported but was wondering if anyone might be able to identify who might have done the work. The only identifying markings that I see is both heads have the number “26062” hand scribed on the 1st intake runner.
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I have lingenfelter heads and they actually scribe a number on the exhaust side of the head that identifies their work. Im not sure where they came from but runner looks pretty clean
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To me, it doesn't look like a CNC machining pattern. It appears to be a hand porting job. I honestly think you're out of luck having someone identifying the heads by looking at one intake port. The numbers "may" help.
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I have lingenfelter heads and they actually scribe a number on the exhaust side of the head that identifies their work. Im not sure where they came from but runner looks pretty clean
Thanks for the info. When I called Lingenfelter the person I talked to said they generally put the number on the side of the head, but he had never heard of them ever putting a marking on the intake runner. I’m not upset at all with the workmanship of the heads, it just would ease my mind knowing who did them.
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Lingenfelter uses OEM iron guides. You have bronze. That rules them out anyway.
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To me, it doesn't look like a CNC machining pattern. It appears to be a hand porting job. I honestly think you're out of luck having someone identifying the heads by looking at one intake port. The numbers "may" help.
looking at the picture I took it’s hard to tell how the porting was done because they look smooth as if they were done with a dremel. Later I may take a better picture and show the tooling marks that definitely were from a ball nose endmill with extremely uniform spacing. If they were done by hand I would love to meet the person that did them!! There was also some work done in the chambers, although it’s hard to tell with the carbon.
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Originally Posted by Undy
Lingenfelter uses OEM iron guides. You have bronze. That rules them out anyway.

this is true also^^^^^

mine are NOT smooth like that (you can see all the cnc marks) ill post a pic of mine, those are a hand blend for sure (but look great)

but being they are "fixed" its still not a bad idea to replace the guides with them being a relatively cheap part
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Check with TSP. Looks like could be TSP 265 program heads.
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Originally Posted by Undy
Lingenfelter uses OEM iron guides. You have bronze. That rules them out anyway.
I agree that they aren’t Lingenfelter heads although they did say that that they have on some occasions used bronze guides, I’m sure at the customers request. Here is a closer look at the tooling marks and I believe they are cnc.
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Here is a closer look at the tooling marks and I believe they are cnc.
Yep, see the telltale marks on this photo.
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CNC, someone went in with a tootsie roll and tried to get rid of the tool marks. If the guides check out run em
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
CNC, someone went in with a tootsie roll and tried to get rid of the tool marks. If the guides check out run em
Thats my plan. Just installing Ferrea exhaust valves and BTR dual springs. The reason for the post is more out of curiosity to see if anyone can identify who might have done the work. As “Unreal” mentioned, I will check with Texas Speed & Performance.
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Looks like some clean porting, I'd run em. You might have better luck tracking through previous owners of them.
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You should know stock Ti intakes and bronze guides are not a good combination.
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Originally Posted by Dan_the_C5_Man
You should know stock Ti intakes and bronze guides are not a good combination.
CHE mag bronze guides have no issues with the oem valves.
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Tsp was able to look up what was done to my heads by me giving them the previous owners name. My heads also didn’t have any markings, just numbers.
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Originally Posted by HouseS2k
CHE mag bronze guides have no issues with the oem valves.
That's not Katech's position, and they know a thing or two about it..

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Originally Posted by Dan_the_C5_Man
That's not Katech's position, and they know a thing or two about it..
Thats funny because they require bronze with their moly coated Ti valves. Moly is the superior coating but the factory CRN is very good also. A few cylinder head companies use bronze with factory valves. WCCH and Advance Induction just to name 2.
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Originally Posted by HouseS2k
Thats funny because they require bronze with their moly coated Ti valves. Moly is the superior coating but the factory CRN is very good also. A few cylinder head companies use bronze with factory valves. WCCH and Advance Induction just to name 2.
The original factory CrN coating is abrasive, which is why Katech pushes the use of Moly coated stems, because the head vendor they use, WCCH (yes, NOW Katech offers in-house services, but that only started last year) didn't have access to PM guides that hold up better to the rough coating...

It's a domino affect; one component change impacts another.

And just because a shop does something doesn't make it right - GM is a Billion dollar company, and look what a mess they managed to create. Never trust anyone implicitly, try to do your own research and then come to a conclusion.

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Originally Posted by Dan_the_C5_Man
The original factory CrN coating is abrasive, which is why Katech pushes the use of Moly coated stems, because the head vendor they use, WCCH (yes, NOW Katech offers in-house services, but that only started last year) didn't have access to PM guides that hold up better to the rough coating...

It's a domino affect; one component change impacts another.

And just because a shop does something doesn't make it right - GM is a Billion dollar company, and look what a mess they managed to create. Never trust anyone implicitly, try to do you own research and then come to a conclusion.
100% agree, I’ve used CHE products before with great results. Which is why I used them in my head fix. I use a local machine shop for my machine work. Never had an issue with them so far.



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