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Old 07-04-2019, 03:36 PM
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I've been looking at Trick Flow 255 and AFR 260 heads. I've done searches on here and at ls1 tech and havn't found too many people discussing these heads. Does anybody have any experience with these heads that could make a recommendation or of another head that would be a great fit for what I'm doing with my supercharged 427. Max budget is 3k for heads complete.
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Old 07-05-2019, 08:41 AM
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Why not the PRC heads from texas speed? You already running their shortblock.

I have the PRC's on my ls7.
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Old 07-05-2019, 08:56 AM
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So... you're building a 427" LS3? The heads you spec'd are not for a LS7 so you'd probably find more info on the C6 tech/performance forum.

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Old 07-05-2019, 01:33 PM
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Correct, Iím supercharging my 427 with the ls9 supercharger. I dropped a valve with ls7 heads and after the research, Iím done with ls7 heads. I want a head that is more reliable and Iím going to be making over 800 horsepower anyways so Iím fine. My 67 weighs around 3,000 lbs so Iíll be flying at that power level. I want ls3 style so the supercharger bolts up without adaptors. I posted here because I wasnít sure if any of the ZR1 guys have played around with these heads since they flow more than the ls9ís. I will be around 12 lbs of boost.
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Originally Posted by fred50stang View Post
Why not the PRC heads from texas speed? You already running their shortblock.

I have the PRC's on my ls7.
I have looked at the prc heads, but they donít flow as well as the AFR or Trickflow. I am running their block, but itís not their shortblock. The rest of the internals I got from BTR. The bottom end is all forged from Callieís and wiseco.
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Another question I have is at what boost level should I go to arp studs for the head bolts instead of arp bolts which is what I was running?

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Old 07-05-2019, 02:28 PM
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I'm running Trickflow 255s on my TT GTO, its a 403ci Gen 4 forged iron block (9.8:1). They're great cylinder heads but be advised the valves in them from Trickflow are junk. They are the lowest grade Ferrea valves and will "tulip" under extreme heat and cylinder pressure. I upgraded my intake valves to the BTR Victory titanium valves and Manley inconel exhaust valves. I was able to run the original Ferrea's for a while but they didn't last long at 1000+whp. I'm at 1150+whp now and the Victory/Manley valves have been solid for a year now, probably 150+ full passes and 5k miles of street use.

I plan to swap to a cathedral port TFS 245 on the GTO and run the 255s on my ZR1 in the future.

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Old 07-05-2019, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 6point0 goat View Post
I'm running Trickflow 255s on my TT GTO, its a 403ci Gen 4 forged iron block (9.8:1). They're great cylinder heads but be advised the valves in them from Trickflow are junk. They are the lowest grade Ferrea valves and will "tulip" under extreme heat and cylinder pressure. I upgraded my intake valves to the BTR Victory titanium valves and Manley inconel exhaust valves. I was able to run the original Ferrea's for a while but they didn't last long at 1000+whp. I'm at 1150+whp now and the Victory/Manley valves have been solid for a year now, probably 150+ full passes and 5k miles of street use.

I plan to swap to a cathedral port TFS 245 on the GTO and run the 255s on my ZR1 in the future.
Thanks, thatís the type of information Iím looking for. I have heard the Trickflow valves are not very good. Thatís one thing I like about AFR is that you can go ahead and upgrade the exhaust valves to inconel when buying the heads.
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For about $50.00 you can ship your original heads here....https://www.latemodelengines.com/index.php/ I had mine done there and they're perfect. They will custom build them for your exact project.
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For about $50.00 you can ship your original heads here....https://www.latemodelengines.com/index.php/ I had mine done there and they're perfect. They will custom build them for your exact project.
Thanks, Iíll have to look them up. I donít have any original heads though. The original ls7 heads I had dropped a valve and I have already sold them.
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Fixed heads arent the issue the parts used are
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PRC 260ís. Record ZR1 runs them.
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Peoples Republic of China?
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Originally Posted by Innovate View Post
PRC 260ís. Record ZR1 runs them.
According to their website, those are six bolt heads. I'm only going to be using 4 bolt.
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LS7 heads are fine if you replace all 16 valves in addition to the head work. Itís stock valves/coating + geometry + exasperated by 1.8rr, and 07/08 rockers if you have those. If you start with an LS7 casting and build with quality parts and good machining there is no issue.
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Ls7 heads arenít an option at this point. I already have a ls9 supercharger and I donít want to use adaptors.
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Originally Posted by piratebaseball View Post
According to their website, those are six bolt heads. I'm only going to be using 4 bolt.
That doesn't matter, you simply don't use the 6th hole
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Originally Posted by piratebaseball View Post
ls7 heads arenít an option at this point. I already have a ls9 supercharger and i donít want to use adaptors.
mast ls3
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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06 View Post
mast ls3
Which mast ls3ís are you using?
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