Notices
C6 Corvette ZR1 & Z06 General info about GM’s Corvette Supercar, LS9 Corvette Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Suspension Setup for Street or Track
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Kraken

[Z06] Clutch Swap Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-03-2022, 05:53 PM
  #81  
furious427
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
furious427's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee Florida
Posts: 1,797
Received 446 Likes on 319 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by acroy



Same here. I've done it both ways as well. There are pros and cons to both. For sure the big pro to doing the pieces separately is much less risk to the clutch & input shaft. It is more overall work though.
Honestly, I can think of any pros to putting the entire assembly up together, only cons. It's only 6 bolts to separate the torque tube from tranny.
The following users liked this post:
SebringZ06x (08-03-2022)
Old 08-03-2022, 05:55 PM
  #82  
furious427
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
furious427's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee Florida
Posts: 1,797
Received 446 Likes on 319 Posts
Default

Got a little more done today. Starter is in, headers are in loosely, tunnel plate is up, and all wires sensors are plugged in. Tomorrow I should be able to get the exhaust up.

Old 08-05-2022, 08:28 AM
  #83  
1972bluelt1
Burning Brakes
 
1972bluelt1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2009
Location: Roanoke Indiana
Posts: 1,121
Received 221 Likes on 151 Posts

Default

I watched a You tube of a guy changing the clutch on his C5 Z06. He said the flywheels on the LS6 are externally balanced after the engine is assembled and the new flywheel
needed to be weighted to match. Is this a thing and if it is does that carry over to the LS7?
Old 08-05-2022, 09:35 AM
  #84  
Spaceme1117
Safety Car
 
Spaceme1117's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2016
Location: Erlanger, Kentucky
Posts: 3,661
Received 1,313 Likes on 885 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 1972bluelt1
I watched a You tube of a guy changing the clutch on his C5 Z06. He said the flywheels on the LS6 are externally balanced after the engine is assembled and the new flywheel
needed to be weighted to match. Is this a thing and if it is does that carry over to the LS7?
Seems to be conflicting information on this. Supposedly, some C5 Z06’s were balanced after being installed on the engine but I just don’t see why GM would do that as any clutch change on a C5 Z06 would require engine removal and placement on some sort of balancing apparatus. Would also mean that the crank shaft wouldn’t have been internally balanced which GM has never done on any LS engines my knowledge. I think this is just bad info that people keep repeating.

When I did a clutch swap on my 2002 C5 Z06, both the old and new clutches assemblies were already balanced as was indicated by balancing weights and or drilled inventions/holes in the flywheels. Just swapped the clutches and reassembled. No vibration after install either.

Same for when I did a Monster twin disc on my Grand Sport. Clutch was already perfectly balanced from Monster.
The following users liked this post:
1972bluelt1 (08-05-2022)
Old 08-05-2022, 11:18 AM
  #85  
Apocolipse
Le Mans Master
 
Apocolipse's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2013
Posts: 5,652
Received 1,281 Likes on 926 Posts

Default

Yes - GM hot balances every one of them after it’s installed in the car. Technically yes you want to copy the old clutch balance with the new one. However many do not and are “ok”
Old 08-05-2022, 11:48 AM
  #86  
1972bluelt1
Burning Brakes
 
1972bluelt1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2009
Location: Roanoke Indiana
Posts: 1,121
Received 221 Likes on 151 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Apocolipse
Yes - GM hot balances every one of them after it’s installed in the car. Technically yes you want to copy the old clutch balance with the new one. However many do not and are “ok”
Is that just a C5 thing? Don't see how they would get to the flywheel in a C6.
Old 08-05-2022, 12:47 PM
  #87  
Spaceme1117
Safety Car
 
Spaceme1117's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2016
Location: Erlanger, Kentucky
Posts: 3,661
Received 1,313 Likes on 885 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Apocolipse
Yes - GM hot balances every one of them after it’s installed in the car. Technically yes you want to copy the old clutch balance with the new one. However many do not and are “ok”
I am extremely skeptical. Do you have an official source for this info or some link?
Old 08-05-2022, 12:57 PM
  #88  
Apocolipse
Le Mans Master
 
Apocolipse's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2013
Posts: 5,652
Received 1,281 Likes on 926 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Spaceme1117
I am extremely skeptical. Do you have an official source for this info or some link?
Yes - GM fill out stated it. They always do it on corvettes because the torque tube creates more nvh when it’s not perfectly balanced as a system. This is c5/6 (c7 I don’t think they bothered because it has a dual mass flywheel to help with harmonics)

Last edited by Apocolipse; 08-05-2022 at 01:04 PM.
Old 08-05-2022, 01:01 PM
  #89  
Apocolipse
Le Mans Master
 
Apocolipse's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2013
Posts: 5,652
Received 1,281 Likes on 926 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 1972bluelt1
Is that just a C5 thing? Don't see how they would get to the flywheel in a C6.
The flywheel weights are installed through the holes in bellhousing that have the removeable plastic covers
Old 08-06-2022, 11:48 AM
  #90  
Pounder
1/4 mile/AutoX
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Pounder's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2014
Location: Buffalo Texas
Posts: 11,276
Received 2,081 Likes on 1,634 Posts
Default

I have done multiple clutch jobs on C5's and C6's, I am in my 70's and take it apart and reassemble in pieces,(I think it's easier, no lift) I am in the process of replacing the duel clutch in our New Holland tractor, now my friends it's a major job compared to a vette
Old 08-08-2022, 03:48 PM
  #91  
furious427
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
furious427's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee Florida
Posts: 1,797
Received 446 Likes on 319 Posts
Default

A little more progress, line lock is installed, and brakes are blead, I just have to finish wiring it up but will do that when I install shifter/console. Exhaust is in, what a dick, I had to go buy a pipe expander tool to be able to put it all back together, everything was way too tight. This is a pretty cool tool and did the job I needed it to do. From the reviews I read online it actually does a shitty job if you're trying to expand pipe, but for just opening things up a little like I needed, it worked like a charm. All I have left is oil change, intake, and shifter/consol.

Old 08-11-2022, 03:15 PM
  #92  
furious427
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
furious427's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee Florida
Posts: 1,797
Received 446 Likes on 319 Posts
Default

Just wanted to update, the car is done. I finished yesterday and so far, so good, no problems as of yet. Took it for a decent cruise today and I have to admit it really does feel like the stock clutch as far as pedal goes. It is grabbing a lot harder than stock obviously and shifting a lot smoother than stock. Ill make a review thread about the clutch after like 500 miles or so to give my honest thoughts. Monster recommends removing the clutch pedal spring, but I have done so yet.
Old 08-11-2022, 09:04 PM
  #93  
acroy
Le Mans Master
 
acroy's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2013
Location: DFW TX
Posts: 9,193
Received 1,386 Likes on 836 Posts

Default


that is promising,. Enjoy & check back in!
Old 09-29-2022, 12:50 PM
  #94  
KnightmareLS1
Instructor
 
KnightmareLS1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2013
Posts: 180
Received 98 Likes on 43 Posts

Default

Any updates after the 500 mile break-in?

Awesome thread btw, Ill be using it when I do my in the near future. thanks for all the info and pictures!
Old 09-29-2022, 02:05 PM
  #95  
furious427
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
furious427's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee Florida
Posts: 1,797
Received 446 Likes on 319 Posts
Default

I am well over 500 miles on the clutch, still very happy and glad I did the swap. I said I would make a review thread but been lazy and haven't yet.
Old 09-29-2022, 02:31 PM
  #96  
KnightmareLS1
Instructor
 
KnightmareLS1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2013
Posts: 180
Received 98 Likes on 43 Posts

Default

Right on glad it’s working well.

How’s is the noise/rattle while you’re in neutral? I know most twins rattle (floater plate) so o figured triples do too.

hoping to get one on the less noisy end as mines a street car mostly
Old 09-29-2022, 03:57 PM
  #97  
furious427
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
furious427's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee Florida
Posts: 1,797
Received 446 Likes on 319 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by KnightmareLS1
Right on glad it’s working well.

How’s is the noise/rattle while you’re in neutral? I know most twins rattle (floater plate) so o figured triples do too.

hoping to get one on the less noisy end as mines a street car mostly
I do not have any more noise than I did with the stock clutch. Others disagree on this matter, maybe I just got lucky.
Old 09-29-2022, 09:51 PM
  #98  
jayyyw
Le Mans Master
 
jayyyw's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Austin Tx
Posts: 5,583
Received 897 Likes on 686 Posts
Default

Do you have the updated clutch master cylinder? I had an issue with mine that was causing a stiff/springy pedal. I swapped to the newer version and the pedal effort is much better and predictable. I've seen where people had issues with the clutch pedal sinking with the older style master.

I'd never recommend a triple disc clutch for a all motor setup but I do understand not wanting to do it again.
Old 09-30-2022, 07:21 AM
  #99  
furious427
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
furious427's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee Florida
Posts: 1,797
Received 446 Likes on 319 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jayyyw
Do you have the updated clutch master cylinder? I had an issue with mine that was causing a stiff/springy pedal. I swapped to the newer version and the pedal effort is much better and predictable. I've seen where people had issues with the clutch pedal sinking with the older style master.

I'd never recommend a triple disc clutch for a all motor setup but I do understand not wanting to do it again.
No problems at all with anything, yes, my master is the updated one, previous original owner did the recall on it. So far, this clutch has been perfect, I am about to start drag racing it and then I will really know.
The following users liked this post:
jayyyw (09-30-2022)



Quick Reply: [Z06] Clutch Swap Thread



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:38 PM.