trev0006

http://tunersdatabase.com/maxbimmer/m3vsz06.mpg can't belive the Z06 didn't pull harder, he also shifted very bad. :mad

LSs1Power

That Z06 had massive wheel spin. Im sure if he lanuched like that at the track he would run mid 13's.

TTRotary

1. I'll be damned if you can tell it's a Z06 from the video. Funny how they always produce these at night with really poor contrast.

2. The Vette has pulled 3 cars at least on the M3 by the end of the run and just keeps opening up the lead.

3. This does not belong in this section.

4. The Forum does not condone street racing. Moderators please lock.

ivan111

What is the ideal RPM's to get the least amount of wheelspin in a Z06?

2500 RPM's?

He really nailed the throttle off the line and that what caused all that wheelspin.....

Is amazing the power the Z06 has how easily still spins it tires in 2nd gear......

kewlbrz

There are videos of stock C5's beating stock C3's.

Drivers being equal the C5 Z06 will dog stomp a M3.

That being said. Why is this in the C6 forum?

LS1LT1

Keep in mind that if that was an SMG (sequential manual trans) M3 those things can have an almost perfect launch every time with the way that trans is set up and those cars do have decent traction (sticky tires)...good traction + less power = better launch.
The Z06 did still win regardless but a better driver would've owned the M3 right off the line most likely. :steering:
Nice kill. ;)

ivan111

Absolutly a better driver would have killed the M3 off the line....

M3 0-60 time is about 4.8 sec

Z06 with a good launch is in the 4.0-4.2 region....

LS1LT1

Slightly quicker than that even possibly. :yesnod:

007Duc

I raced an 03' Cobra a while back in my 02' Z06 bone stock, I turned the traction control off because I've noticed the car is allot quicker even with the wheelspin than with it on. I slowly got the car rolling,,,,not dumping the clutch,,,and then eased in the throtle,,,,as soon as RPM's came up it still anailated the tires through 3rd gear. I caught and passed the cobra who was have some traction problems also at 90mph and walked away to 150, where I called the race over. I'm sure the Cobra drivers being equal would give an M3 a run for his money.

kewlbrz

If you mean that the car is quicker (irregardless of wheelspin) with traction control off, that is a total immpossibility from a control systems standpoint. There is absolutely no relationship or function in the traction control system other than to monitor excessive wheelspin.

LSs1Power

Sometimes there is a slight wheel spin and u feel it but ur car is pulling hard and gaining more momentum as in trapspeed like that. I’m sure no wheel spin at all will give u best ET's though. I don’t know if u have ever felt the wheel spin im talking about. I get it all the time with my car now on the streets when I roll from 1st or 2nd gear, but the car is still going fast and the RPM is building even higher.

no_fate

preload the engine around 3000 rpm in neutral, when the light is about to hit green throw it in first (this requires alot of practice: hand/footwork coordination), and you should take off like a bat out of hell with minimal spin, as far as im concerned this damn car is so powerful your going to always have a little spin when changing gears.

Ive done 0-60 in under 4. 3.8 -9 alot maybe 3.7? I've timed it, but who knows how accurate a passenger with a stop watch can be lol Also alot of guys like to ride first gear to the limit, which is around 55mph then chirp to second. Ive found its faster (At least for my style, i know im not as aggressive as others) to shift around the torque limit (4800) which is like 35-40mph into second (you should chirp) then i ride second a long ways to third. (does anyone have a different style? many guys tell me they do 3.7 0-60s consistent at tracks and that it just takes practice.) but for silly street racing like this video, that should be fine and you would pull like a raped ape on that m3.

i hear there is also a transmission punshing way to do it in like 2 seconds (near redllining of the engine in neutral and popping the clutch into first or something like that!?) :lolg:

ivan111

Wow those 0-60 times in the high 3 seconds are amazing....

What GM saids for the Z 3.9 sec?

In the magazines the lowest i have seen the Z go is 4.0 flat......

RUGBY

:skep: :rolleyes:

no_fate

oh!! id like to note i didnt condone it! i said its silly (didtn realize) i almsot strictly race at the dragstrip. But i will admit when i first got the car i took it to no mans land to learn it (its like a gym, you dont want to show up completely out of shape either!) so i wanted to warm up before i went to the track.

now that ive gotten my kicks out i never street race. of course if a porsche or lambo pulls up next to me thats a different story :thumbs:

C6-XTSY

You're kidding right? You know that you can put the car in 1st with the clutch in and still rev right?

Added weight of a passenger and under 4 secs? Hmm...

The whole point of going beyond the torque peak is so that you can be in the torque peak after the shift.

Maybe I'm half asleep, but this is really funny. :D

FLYNLO

The dude spun in every gear and hit the rev limiter in every gear.

It was definitely a ZO6 because of the noise it made....that's what they sound like.

A good way to launch would be about 3200 RPMs and when the light drops, release the clutch like you are leaving the toll booth. Or there are folks that can leave the line on the rev limiter......you gotta have slicks to do that.

The SMG that we get here in the US does NOT have the launch algorithm in its computer.

As evidenced by this video, a poorly driven ZO6 will still stomp an M3. I have raced about 3 of them. It was never ever close. The reason why it seems close)at the beginning) and the 0-60 times are decent is because the higher redline/RPM of an M3 allow it to get to 60 in first gear.

Irregardless is not a word!!!.....could be an indication of something else, though.

The ZO6 is a badazz car for what it is.

The M3 is a very nice car for what it is.

LSs1Power

Yes it does, but u cant rev as high as the Euro Version E46 M3. My friend has an SMG and he used to cut high 1.9 60fts all day long on 19's. He also ran 13.1 at 107 stock with a 1.9 60ft. So if the Z06 missed up the launch the M3 has a chance to keep its lead up to 3rd gear.

vettesurfer

Correct me if im wrong, but I thought I saw fog lights on the so called ZO6 in the video. If thats the case I think were talking 99-00 FRC not ZO6 and that might explain a few things. :skep:

bludevl

I'm not sure where some people see "massive" wheel spin (I don't have speakers, mebbe you hear it?) but this was a poor start for the vette. Nope - no fog lights either, it's definately a late Z06. The M3 is capable of keeping with the Z (especially with a poor launch) until about 60, when the vette walks away. Published 0-90's show the Z06 at mid 7's, the M3 at mid-to-high 9's. I hope no one is terriibly surprised by the result here. Just my .02.

Blue