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Old 04-10-2008, 02:44 AM
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.*

It needs some more work to run pass the 7:38 the GT-R did...

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sounds nasty!
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Originally Posted by ACESZ06
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.*

It needs some more work to run pass the 1:38 the GT-R did...
Track was damp. I would not be surprised to see low 30s.
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Originally Posted by DrtyHarry
Track was damp. I would not be surprised to see low 30s.
Track damp
Engineers driving
From a standing start and
Not an all out fast lap.

Now please GM do it in a

Dry track
With top drivers
From a flying start and
Wring the f**k out of the car (don't just settle for slightly beating the V-Spec)
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I prefer a normally aspirated motor but that car is baddddddddd.
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Originally Posted by ACESZ06
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.*

It needs some more work to run pass the 1:38 the GT-R did...
What was the best time for the Z06?
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Originally Posted by pajohns
What was the best time for the Z06?
Corvette ZO6 tested in 2005 with a time of 7:42

Nissan GTR tested in 2007 with a time of 7:38

Surely the ZR1 should be way faster than 7:40.........
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Originally Posted by monaroCountry
Track damp
Engineers driving
From a standing start and
Not an all out fast lap.

Now please GM do it in a

Dry track
With top drivers
From a flying start and
Wring the f**k out of the car (don't just settle for slightly beating the V-Spec)
GM's Engineers can drive 7:40 on Nürburgring track? holy cow..... sounds like bull crap to me..

Originally Posted by monaroCountry
Corvette ZO6 tested in 2005 with a time of 7:42

Nissan GTR tested in 2007 with a time of 7:38

Surely the ZR1 should be way faster than 7:40.........
surely GT-R's 480HP 3800lbs can't beat Z06's 505HP and 3100lbs?
Just wait for the final result. don't bs around like a kid.

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Originally Posted by monaroCountry
Track damp
Engineers driving
From a standing start and
Not an all out fast lap.

Now please GM do it in a

Dry track
With top drivers
From a flying start and
Wring the f**k out of the car (don't just settle for slightly beating the V-Spec)
I think the car will run a much faster time. But I would like to ask MonaroCounty this:

1. How do you know it was from a standing start?
2. How do you know engineers were driving?
3. I think flying laps are longer,The GTR ran a flying lap, was it longer?

I think you have extrapolated data and track methods to substantiate the lap time. Why?


GM has at least new two cars over there to run times. They have the best drivers they can put in the car, not just engineers. That's to hard to believe. The whole idea of shipping the car there is to run the fastest possible lap time. They are not going to go though all the trouble and expense it takes to get the cars over there and forget or not use the best driver's.

I think we will see a much faster time in the ZR-1. Their just not done yet, or holding back on us. I bet they will have a film of the lap ready to view at the release of the car.
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Originally Posted by Slowgoin
GM has at least new two cars over there to run times. They have the best drivers they can put in the car, not just engineers. That's to hard to believe. The whole idea of shipping the car there is to run the fastest possible lap time. They are not going to go though all the trouble and expense it takes to get the cars over there and forget or not use the best driver's.


I admitt that the GM PR machine isnt as good as Nissan's fanboi powered PR machine.

I hope this doesnt happen again but GM's top drivers are also busy winning proper races. O'Connell/ Magnussen and Gavin/ Beretta recently finished the St. Petrsburg GT1 race around 5 days ago. Hopefully GM brings them in to properly drive the car before the Long Beach race.

Note that the previous Corvette ZO6 ring test, Magnussen spent a total of one day getting the time from the car and not weeks like Nissan did with their GTR.
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Originally Posted by Furia

surely GT-R's 480HP 3800lbs can't beat Z06's 505HP and 3100lbs?
Just wait for the final result. don't bs around like a kid.

What the hell is your problem?

Face it not everyone in this world bows down to the GTR and not everyone thinks that it can flog the corvette. There simply isnt many being raced around and the one that recently did lost to a ZO6 (street race).
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Originally Posted by monaroCountry
I admitt that the GM PR machine isnt as good as Nissan's fanboi powered PR machine.

I hope this doesnt happen again but GM's top drivers are also busy winning proper races. O'Connell/ Magnussen and Gavin/ Beretta recently finished the St. Petrsburg GT1 race around 5 days ago. Hopefully GM brings them in to properly drive the car before the Long Beach race.

Note that the previous Corvette ZO6 ring test, Magnussen spent a total of one day getting the time from the car and not weeks like Nissan did with their GTR.

You have a chip on your shoulder. Your undertones are not merited nor needed.

"fanboi powered PR machine"
"proper races"

How do you know Nissan was there for weeks? and so what if they were?

Take it easy. I don't understand the hate you have for another car.
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Originally Posted by monaroCountry
I admitt that the GM PR machine isnt as good as Nissan's fanboi powered PR machine.

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did you read athe article??? it clearly states that engineers were driving.
the real question is why dont you believe the article????

[QUOTE=Slowgoin;1564950211]

2. How do you know engineers were driving?

I think you have extrapolated data and track methods to substantiate the lap time. Why?
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Originally Posted by monaroCountry
What the hell is your problem?

Face it not everyone in this world bows down to the GTR and not everyone thinks that it can flog the corvette. There simply isnt many being raced around and the one that recently did lost to a ZO6 (street race).
Do you have a link to the race, I would like to check it out?
As I had expected all along, Z06>GTR.
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What a tease... Engineers driving... A damp course! COME ON!

I still predict a run in the 7:20's with professional drivers and dry conditions. The ZR1 is no joke. I truly believe performance is about to be redefined.

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Originally Posted by Furia
GM's Engineers can drive 7:40 on Nürburgring track? holy cow..... sounds like bull crap to me..

surely GT-R's 480HP 3800lbs can't beat Z06's 505HP and 3100lbs?
Just wait for the final result. don't bs around like a kid.
I guess we are starting to see some of the GTR's secrets..

Motor Trend put a production GTR on a dyno and came up with somewhere around 436rhp.

Sooooo, that 480hp number (they believe) is around 20-30 hp low. That and the Nissans ability to stay in the torque band longer than the Zo6 and 911 turbo make this cars acceleration amazing.


That said once past the 1/4 mile Motor Trend states that the Zo6 will pull on a GTR.
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Originally Posted by us2bsrt
I guess we are starting to see some of the GTR's secrets..

Motor Trend put a production GTR on a dyno and came up with somewhere around 436rhp.

Sooooo, that 480hp number (they believe) is around 20-30 hp low. That and the Nissans ability to stay in the torque band longer than the Zo6 and 911 turbo make this cars acceleration amazing.


That said once past the 1/4 mile Motor Trend states that the Zo6 will pull on a GTR.
That was even a bit conservative. I think Car and Driver put the number in the mid-500s, and Motortrend agrees thats a realistic number. Still the ZR-1 is supposed to be 650hp. Maybe it all boils down to aerodynamics.
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Originally Posted by monaroCountry
I admitt that the GM PR machine isnt as good as Nissan's fanboi powered PR machine.

I hope this doesnt happen again but GM's top drivers are also busy winning proper races. O'Connell/ Magnussen and Gavin/ Beretta recently finished the St. Petrsburg GT1 race around 5 days ago. Hopefully GM brings them in to properly drive the car before the Long Beach race.

Note that the previous Corvette ZO6 ring test, Magnussen spent a total of one day getting the time from the car and not weeks like Nissan did with their GTR.
Thats because all the GTR fanoboys are 18 years old or younger. Its not Nissan, just their demographic, similar to Honda demographics. If Honda put out a similar car you would see the same hype.

The true owners of the GTR will largely be made of older true enthusiasts like many of us Z06 owners.


Also - Nissan quoted they spent 5,000 miles with the GTR at the Ring.


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