Tony @ MPH

Hey guys,

We just completely restocked our EFILive inventory so it's time for another sale on the most popular product combo we carry: EFILive Scan and Tune V1 or V2 with Innovate Motorsports wideband O2 products.

For those of you wondering whether V1 or V2 is better for you -- the basic question is, what vehicles do you want to tune with the product? Only V2 is capable of tuning CAN bus vehicles, including the new Corvette C6, LS2 GTO, and many other late model GM vehicles. If you think you might tune any of those now or in the future, V2 is definitely right for you.

If you are certain you aren't going to tune LS2 or more recent GM vehicles, then V1 is an awesome way to get into tuning your car without spending a ton of cash. I have personally used V1 on my twin turbo Z06 for a couple of years and just recently upgraded to V2. EFILive provides for a cost effective way of upgrading your V1 cable to a V2 cable without having to buy a complete V2 setup at regular cost. You can simply purchase an upgrade and functional V2 is sent to you. Once you connect both your V1 and V2 units to your laptop, the upgrade process can begin and all your licenses are transferred from one unit to the other. :nod:

If you have any technical questions about EFILive, feel free to get in touch with me through this forum or just call me at 800-364-1975. I'm sure I can help you with whatever the situation may be. Our support includes technical support on the EFILive product itself and also some basic tuning support.

Now, on to the deals... all of these products can be found here, in the universal section of our website:

http://www.mphparts.com/mm5/merchant...egory_Code=UNV




EFILive Scan only: http://www.mphparts.com/mm5/merchant..._Code=104-FS-S
Innovate LC1: http://www.mphparts.com/mm5/merchant...egory_Code=UNV

First, we are offering EFILive V1 Scanner + an Innovate LC1 w/ sensor for $399 SHIPPED. This package will allow you to view in real-time what's going on with your car. In fact, you can scan an unlimited number of vehicles with this product -- licenses are only required for tuning. Maybe you've had a slight surge or hesitation... maybe your car has been running a bit sluggish... maybe you're hearing what you think might be pinging/knock but you're not sure. In any of these cases and more you'll be able correlate wideband air-fuel ratio to other engine parameters such as RPM, coolant temp, inlet air temps, timing, knock, and more to understand how your car is operating. Even if you don't tune your own car, this package can be extremely useful. Many dyno tunes do not contemplate what actually happens when a car is in the real world or at the track and fuel is left too lean or too rich, timing is not where it should be, etc. With this package, you will have concrete information on how your car is operating when you need it running at its peak, at the track or on the street.

To take advantage of the above offer, enter the coupon code EFI-49 into the coupon prompt at checkout time, where you select your shipping method.

Want to upgrade to tuning capability for your vehicle? Then this package is for you. Get all of the great features of EFILive V1 Scan Only plus the ability to tune virtually every GM vehicle, excluding CAN vehicles. For a complete list of vehicles that can be tuned please contact us (every LS1 and LS6 can be tuned with this package).

For this package, we are offering EFILive V1 Commercial Scan and Tune plus an Innovate LC1 Wideband w/ sensor for $649 SHIPPED!

EFILive Commercial Scan & Tune: http://www.mphparts.com/mm5/merchant...egory_Code=UNV
Innovate Motorsports LC-1: http://www.mphparts.com/mm5/merchant...egory_Code=UNV

To take advantage of this offer just add the products to your cart and enter the coupon code EFI-99 at checkout time (remember, this code at the screen where you select shipping method).

The EFILive V1 Commercial Scan & Tune + Innovate LC1 combo is the most versatile and cost effective way to scan and tune your LS1 or LS6 (and many other vehicles as well). Being able to see air/fuel as reported by the LC-1 alongside other engine parameters is a killer feature, and allows you to see if/when/where a lean condition might be causing knock. Many software packages require you to correlate this data manually by looking at air/fuel on one screen and looking at engine parameters on another, but this package lets you see them both on the same screen -- very, very cool.

In addition to these packages, we are also offering V2 Scanners with the Innovate LC-1 for $549 shipped! Just use coupon code EFI-49 at checkout time, as per the instructions above.

V2 EFILive is a bit cooler than V1 EFILive as a handheld unit.



V2 Scan only product link: http://www.mphparts.com/mm5/merchant...Code=104-FS2-S

The handheld will allow you standalone scan and tune in the future with a totally free firmware upgrade (currently, standalone features are disabled and a laptop is required). In addition to the standalone features available in the future, V2 allows you to scan/tune CAN bus vehicles including LS2 GTOs, and the new C6 Corvettes. If you have a question on product compatibility with your vehicle just shoot us a PM or give us a call.

Finally, if you're looking for a full-blown V2 Scan and Tune unit with an LC-1 we are offering that combo for $849 shipped! Just use coupon code EFI-99 at checkout time.

V2 Scan and Tune product link: http://www.mphparts.com/mm5/merchant...egory_Code=UNV

All of these offers can also be used in conjunction with the Innovate Motorsports LM-1 unit. The same coupon codes are valid -- just add the LM-1 to your cart instead of the LC-1.

and happy holidays to all.

9secz

Quick question - does V2 support 2 or 3 bar MAPs for the LS3? I'm planning some form of FI for the 08 I plan to order this weekend.

oldmansan

You are planning on 29 - 43.5 lbs of boost? I don't get it. I run ~22 lbs on an 8.0 to 1 compression ratio motor, but 29 - 43+ on an LS3? I'm all ears.

San

Tony @ MPH

I have not heard any news about the availability of custom operating systems for the LS3 platform (custom operating systems are required for 2bar/3bar support).

HOWEVER, EFILive *has* released some pretty revolutionary code in the latest iteration of the software that allows tuners to interact with the car's volumetric efficiency tables (VE tables) in the same way that they are used to interacting with the C5 VE tables. This is extremely important because the latest E38 cars (your 08 Vette) now use VE coefficients that are incredibly difficult to tune with. By virtualizing the VE coeffecients back into a familiar VE table the LS3 platform is now substantially easier to tune.

As I am sure you are aware, there are plenty of forced induction cars running around with the OEM 1bar MAP sensors. Until the custom operating systems have matured (my professional guess, at least 6-12 months, likely more) I would not advise even trying 2bar or 3bar on your 2008.

When EFILive or HPTuners writes a custom operating system, the level of risk goes up substantially. Instead of just changing data inside the computer's tables, they are actually changing computer instructions/code. The opportunity for bad things to happen goes up greatly and IMHO it's much better to leave the beta testing to those closest to those companies or inside those companies. Especially since a 1bar/MAF tune on a FI car works fine for 99% of the cars out there.

Hope this helps, and please feel free to contact us by PM or 800-364-1975 if you have any other questions. Or just post back in this thread.

0foff667

3 bar is 315kpa or roughly 30psi of boost.
2 bar is 210kpa or roughly 15psi of boost.
1 bar is 105kpa or 0psi of boost.

Tony @ MPH

2bar would be up to ~15psi and 3bar up to ~30psi.

My twin turbo Z06 (C5 for now -- I'll do a C6 Z06 soon) has a 2bar OS on it and the MAP sensor maxes before I hit my peak boost of around 16psi. Marginal amounts of boost over the 2bar limit can easily be tuned for inside PE or even inside VE so it's not a big deal for me to max the sensor.

For what it's worth.

Tony @ MPH

Gah! Beat me to it by 2 minutes. I need to learn to type faster.

oldmansan

I've been to three different sites that state 1 bar = 14.5 psi. Are they all wrong? Please educate me as it seems all the scientific sites must be wrong.

San

oldmansan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbar

Another link that seems to back up 14.5 psi per bar.

San

Tony @ MPH

You are correct, but forgetting that we are already under about 1bar of pressure at sea level. Therefore a 1bar sensor maxes out at 1bar, but at nothing above ambient when looking at sea level.

So a 1bar starts at around -15psi and goes to ambient, a 2bar goes from around -15psi to around 15psi, and a 3bar from -15psi to around 30psi.

HTH

oldmansan

Coming from a turbo background we usually say one bar is 14.5/14.7 lbs of boost over normal atmospheric. I guess it depends on where you decide the starting point it. No problems, just trying to decipher.

San

Tony @ MPH

Yup, I'm with ya. It's all relative. I know I've heard other people refer to 1bar of boost when they are talking about around 14.5psi of boost (above atmospheric, of course), but I believe the reason that our MAP sensors are referenced the way they are is because MAP stands for Manifold Absolute Pressure. The absolute pressure when the 1bar MAP sensor maxes out is of course 14.5psi.

I've always thought of boost as any pressure above atmospheric, hence why it's perfectly correct to say 1bar of boost requires a 2bar MAP sensor. But 1bar of absolute pressure only requires a 1bar sensor.

Is there any way we can make this stuff more confusing?

Tony @ MPH

I just wanted to correct something I posted earlier.

Apparently 2bar/3bar operating systems for the LS2, LS3, and LS7 are in fact already available. This is straight from EFILive. Sorry for the confusion.

MachineWorks

How long is this sale good for? I need to tune two trucks, what do I need?

MachineWorks

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Tony @ MPH

The sale is still running. Thank you for your interest. To tune two trucks you can pick up either the V1 or the V2 package. Some late model trucks can only be tuned with the V2 package, though. Let me know what trucks you want to tune and I will post back the EFILive products that support those trucks (or if you want, you can call us).

All existing orders over the holiday season are shipping today!

NemesisC5

Tony @ MPH

We are going to be picking up a C6 Z06 soon to do some demos / posts about how EFILive interacts with the latest and greatest technology from GM.

Although it's undetermined if we'll be supercharging, turbocharging, or camming the Z06 the fundamentals of what will be done to tune the car will be (for the most part) the same, and relevant to what you guys might want to do to your own cars -- whether it's adding fuel at wide open throttle, taming a nasty idle, etc.

Tony @ MPH

I am downloading the V2 standalone BETA firmware now (which provides standalone black box capabilities, for example). Once it's loaded up I'll take some pictures and video so you guys can see how the V2 unit works without a laptop

greentank

Does EFI Live support A6 trannys yet? At the time I bought HP Tuners, it did not, and I needed it for tuning shiftpoints and changing the gear ratio.

Also, the info on your website says it is capable of tuning on 2005 vettes...what about 2006-present?

What the status of this now? thx.