Edelbrock E-force Z06 KIT 657 HP WOO HOO!
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Le Mans Master
There are lots of "outs" on these supercharger warranties. If your "go or no go" is based on these warranties covering you, you need to walk (or maybe run) away. I guess there might be a situation where there would be some coverage, but I wouldn't bet even tomorrow's lunch on it.
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There are lots of "outs" on these supercharger warranties. If your "go or no go" is based on these warranties covering you, you need to walk (or maybe run) away. I guess there might be a situation where there would be some coverage, but I wouldn't bet even tomorrow's lunch on it.
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As a company providing a supercharger your warranty should cover cars that will have the living s*** driven out of them as this is how the majority of the cars will be driven and essentially this is the way corvette was designed to be driven. If I am paying thousands of dollars for horsepower, I am going to use it. In the same note, its illegal to speed and drive recklessly on public roads yet when you go to the track or drag strip to actually use the car for its intended purpose, your factory warranty is going to be a fight to get and forget about any kind of insurance. Absolutely BS!
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Mine has been trouble free since installed on my LS2 last August but time will tell. It does drive just like stock until you slam the go pedal down... I do not believe the E-Force if properly installed on the LS7 is going to present any problems with street manners....
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There are lots of "outs" on these supercharger warranties. If your "go or no go" is based on these warranties covering you, you need to walk (or maybe run) away. I guess there might be a situation where there would be some coverage, but I wouldn't bet even tomorrow's lunch on it.
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I guess no one will really know much until it is finally released and installed on a couple of cars. Looks like us LS7 guys are getting burned with the price increase without ever even having a opportunity to buy it before the mark up happened due to delays in production! Right now I am rooting for a quick release of the whipple setup!
#28
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I guess no one will really know much until it is finally released and installed on a couple of cars. Looks like us LS7 guys are getting burned with the price increase without ever even having a opportunity to buy it before the mark up happened due to delays in production! Right now I am rooting for a quick release of the whipple setup!
I have a 2.3L whipple on my cobra and I'm debating on a Novi 2200 or whipple 2.9L for my Z.
#29
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A cammed LS7 drives like stock even at 550rwhp. I wish some guys thinking all cammed cars drive like crap would head over my way and I'll get you a drive in 3 cars and you wont beleive they are cammed. Displacement makes a cam drive fine.
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The two (yes only two LS7) cam'd cars I've worked worth both showed typical cam'd car driveability manners. Both cars had mild cams plus headers and FAST 102 intakes and both were in the 550-575rwhp range. Both were tuned by well known vendors on this forum. Neither would have been mistaken to have had a stock cam nor stock-like driveability and manners....unless you were totally ignorant of what was sitting under your butt.
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One I cammed is on a 427 in an A6 car with a 750rpm idle at nearly 600rwhp using trick flow 235 heads. It drives like stock. No bucking, no surging. It has a mild lope. 236/242 114LSA.
Owned by Phil Jimenez on this forum.
Like I said, anyone can come check mine out which no one believes is cammed. No bad cam driveability. Since strokers can and have been cammed and remain civil, anyone with poor driveability probably has some retarded big split/big overlap cam in it. An LS7 with 550rwhp should drive 100% without issue. It doesnt take much cam to hit that low number. Huge cams and some head work yeild 630rwhp and show slight hiccups at 1600rpm.
550rwhp N/A will dust a 600rwhp FI car. It never looses boost pressure.
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Like I said, anyone can come check mine out which no one believes is cammed. No bad cam driveability. Since strokers can and have been cammed and remain civil, anyone with poor driveability probably has some retarded big split/big overlap cam in it. An LS7 with 550rwhp should drive 100% without issue. It doesnt take much cam to hit that low number. Huge cams and some head work yeild 630rwhp and show slight hiccups at 1600rpm.
550rwhp N/A will dust a 600rwhp FI car. It never looses boost pressure.
#32
Melting Slicks
when driving on the street i usually am at 800 to 1200 rpm...i use 6th gear from about 38 mph up....can you do that with your cammed car....i don't think so...at least i have never been in a cammed one that could.....they surge , buck and generally don't like running that low rpm...
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when driving on the street i usually am at 800 to 1200 rpm...i use 6th gear from about 38 mph up....can you do that with your cammed car....i don't think so...at least i have never been in a cammed one that could.....they surge , buck and generally don't like running that low rpm...
I can creep in a parking lot at idle with no bucking or surging. Dont assume. My cammed car is a 17lb boosted car too. My 416's cam makes 530rwhp N/A and I made 822rw FI at only 14 degrees peak timing and 11.2:1 A/F. My cam is a 230/234 116LSA. At zero overlap in a stroker, it hardly has any lope and most people think its the 6 liter with the stock cam with how it drives.
All of the cams I come up with drive great because unlike the 20 degree split cams that induce so much overlap that they drive poorly, mine are all 4-6 degree splits that drive great. Not a single car I ever cammed had any bucking or surging at all....none. You can blame silly overlap for your poor experiences.
I guess you need to go in a few cars cammed by people who dont subscribe to silly size splits on tight LSAs. 550rwhp in a LS7 is a 236/238 on a 114. You dont need 236/256 on a 111. You raise static compression to make up for the later intake valve close. Higher compression improves driveability.
I can go 0-60 in 2.4 seconds. Can your car do that?
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#35
Melting Slicks
would love to drive one of yours.....but that is not likely to happen...my reference was about the cammed z06's i have been in...i am no cam guru..and while the cammed cars ran good above say 1800 to 2000 rpm down lower they did not drive as well as stock cam...
#36
You thought wrong.
I can creep in a parking lot at idle with no bucking or surging. Dont assume. My cammed car is a 17lb boosted car too. My 416's cam makes 530rwhp N/A and I made 822rw FI at only 14 degrees peak timing and 11.2:1 A/F. My cam is a 230/234 116LSA. At zero overlap in a stroker, it hardly has any lope and most people think its the 6 liter with the stock cam with how it drives.
All of the cams I come up with drive great because unlike the 20 degree split cams that induce so much overlap that they drive poorly, mine are all 4-6 degree splits that drive great. Not a single car I ever cammed had any bucking or surging at all....none. You can blame silly overlap for your poor experiences.
I guess you need to go in a few cars cammed by people who dont subscribe to silly size splits on tight LSAs. 550rwhp in a LS7 is a 236/238 on a 114. You dont need 236/256 on a 111. You raise static compression to make up for the later intake valve close. Higher compression improves driveability.
I can go 0-60 in 2.4 seconds. Can your car do that?
I can creep in a parking lot at idle with no bucking or surging. Dont assume. My cammed car is a 17lb boosted car too. My 416's cam makes 530rwhp N/A and I made 822rw FI at only 14 degrees peak timing and 11.2:1 A/F. My cam is a 230/234 116LSA. At zero overlap in a stroker, it hardly has any lope and most people think its the 6 liter with the stock cam with how it drives.
All of the cams I come up with drive great because unlike the 20 degree split cams that induce so much overlap that they drive poorly, mine are all 4-6 degree splits that drive great. Not a single car I ever cammed had any bucking or surging at all....none. You can blame silly overlap for your poor experiences.
I guess you need to go in a few cars cammed by people who dont subscribe to silly size splits on tight LSAs. 550rwhp in a LS7 is a 236/238 on a 114. You dont need 236/256 on a 111. You raise static compression to make up for the later intake valve close. Higher compression improves driveability.
I can go 0-60 in 2.4 seconds. Can your car do that?
Sounds like I would love to get a cam/head combo from you!
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Especially if using the GEN4 pcm's, they can idle out so much better than the GEN3's every did. I've installed cams that in a C5 wouldn't even stay idling on stock tune, but same cam in C6 would idle perfect on first startup. Gotta love faster pcm's.
I wish my '98 Vette could run a E40 pcm.
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How about 2.1 0-60mph from a Go-pro camera on the rear deck?
Go to the 2:40 mark and crank up the speakers.
http://www.youtube.com/user/rmsman#p/u/1/4EVRPh6PLNg
Go to the 2:40 mark and crank up the speakers.
http://www.youtube.com/user/rmsman#p/u/1/4EVRPh6PLNg
#39
Former Vendor
2009 C6 Z06 Corvette w/Edelbrock E-Force Kit
Hey guys,
We are finished with this customers install on everything now, so its time to custom tune his 2009 C6 Z06 w/E-Force today, it has Kooks 1 7/8" Headers w/No Cats, Borla out back...We are dropping his stock 3.25" Pulley that comes with the 657hp kit to a 3.00" Pulley, plus we are installing a Kenne Bell 40amp BAP to make sure we have plenty of fuel...
Results will be posted later this evening...
We are finished with this customers install on everything now, so its time to custom tune his 2009 C6 Z06 w/E-Force today, it has Kooks 1 7/8" Headers w/No Cats, Borla out back...We are dropping his stock 3.25" Pulley that comes with the 657hp kit to a 3.00" Pulley, plus we are installing a Kenne Bell 40amp BAP to make sure we have plenty of fuel...
Results will be posted later this evening...
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Wow we are impressed once again, check out these numbers...btw this car has 42k on the clock & the Stock LS7 Clutch, which it did slip alittle on the dyno a few times..
607.97rwhp & 604.74rwtq
It crest the 600rwhp mark right at 6000rpm's, but the WOW factor was 550rwtq at 2500rpm's & 600rwtq at 3200rpm's...
The hp # equates to 715.26 at the Crank
607.97rwhp & 604.74rwtq
It crest the 600rwhp mark right at 6000rpm's, but the WOW factor was 550rwtq at 2500rpm's & 600rwtq at 3200rpm's...
The hp # equates to 715.26 at the Crank