E-Force Supercharger vs. PRO CHARGER
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E-Force Supercharger vs. PRO CHARGER
I have a 2009 stock vette and am looking for opinions what you think is best. Also which model of Pro charger or E-Force you would recommend and what kind of power you are making with it.
Thanks Gary
Thanks Gary
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I got 250 results when I typed in the SEARCH BAR centri vs pd and it took .11 sec
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/sear...rchid=29251571
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/sear...rchid=29251571
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I didn't think the link would work. Thats why I gave him the answer he was looking for
SEARCH BAR = centri vs pd
But for some reason it works for me, maybe because its from my user name?
SEARCH BAR = centri vs pd
But for some reason it works for me, maybe because its from my user name?
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I have a 2008 mn6 with a Procharger D-1SC on it making 638rwhp on 7lbs. I made a thread on here about so just search my username. I like centri units ways more than any positive displacement blower.
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You should take a CLOSE look at the A&A system vs Procharger. Intercooler design , bracketry, aesthetics. We have it all.
600 RWHP is easy with our system.
600 RWHP is easy with our system.
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There are pros and cons to a Centrifugal and PD blowers.
"What do you think is best", would depend on what your primary use is with the car (daily driver/street only, few times at track, more a track car than street), your budget, other mods to the motor/drivetrain.
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If you are going to do a Procharger system.. Talk to Taylor @ dallas performance..their Kits are great..
If you want to make 500 rwhp.. any of the kits will do it for you and at that power level the PD blowers would " be more fun" because of more Tq off idle and low end.... but most races happen at over 4500 rpm and in that area the Centri blowers win.
If you want to make 500 rwhp.. any of the kits will do it for you and at that power level the PD blowers would " be more fun" because of more Tq off idle and low end.... but most races happen at over 4500 rpm and in that area the Centri blowers win.
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I have an Eforce. I run the 1/4 mile on a drag team. I have the 1591 kit. It's awesome. I'm running 11.5's consistently, and am making about 525 rwhp. Lots of low end torque. The eforce makes more low end torque the centri blowers. However if you plan on adding Meth go with a centri. I'm using the canned tune provided with the kit and it is smooth and ultra safe. If I wanted more power I would go with an AA Andy is probably one of the most helpfull, and successful centri guys out there. My goal was a mid 11 car, with a safe tune. I got that with the eforce. Also, Edelbrock offers a 3 yr/36k mile warranty. I like the look of the eforce as well. Fits like a glove!
You must be at a high altitude! My 2008 C-6 ls-3 with headers
Did 11.98 with 120 off a only 2.04 60ft. So looks like my stock ls-3 header car was faster or at least equal to your Eforce.
Average Centri kit looks to be in a different league than what your doing. Should have around at least a 135 trap speed!
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The biggest difference is where you get the power. PD superchargers make a lot more power at the low end a lot faster than centris but centris make plenty more horsepower at the top end. It all depends on how you want to drive and where.
For the track you rarely spend any time at the low end and the fact that PD intercoolers are pretty inefficient unless you're going to run ice in your water tank after each run. This makes centris pretty nice to run at the strip.
For a daily driver PDs are nice simply because of the low end power. The instant hit of torque is fun as hell and gets you going. A centri does have plenty of noticeable lag compared to a PD.
Personally I'm running a P1SC-1 and it's fun on the street. I can not get on the gas and save fuel or I can stomp on it and get traction until the top end of 1st and 2nd.... to me that's pretty fun as well. Everyone will have their own opinion it just depends on the sound, performance and money you want to put into it. I do like how easy it is to tune meth in with a centri since the boost is linear. I can see great gas mileage and no meth usage or slightly poor gas mileage and still no meth usage depending on throttle input and RPM... but if I go WOT I can watch my gas gauge go down and the meth tank run dry... but by then I'm already too happy about the performance to care.
For the track you rarely spend any time at the low end and the fact that PD intercoolers are pretty inefficient unless you're going to run ice in your water tank after each run. This makes centris pretty nice to run at the strip.
For a daily driver PDs are nice simply because of the low end power. The instant hit of torque is fun as hell and gets you going. A centri does have plenty of noticeable lag compared to a PD.
Personally I'm running a P1SC-1 and it's fun on the street. I can not get on the gas and save fuel or I can stomp on it and get traction until the top end of 1st and 2nd.... to me that's pretty fun as well. Everyone will have their own opinion it just depends on the sound, performance and money you want to put into it. I do like how easy it is to tune meth in with a centri since the boost is linear. I can see great gas mileage and no meth usage or slightly poor gas mileage and still no meth usage depending on throttle input and RPM... but if I go WOT I can watch my gas gauge go down and the meth tank run dry... but by then I'm already too happy about the performance to care.
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I have an Eforce. I run the 1/4 mile on a drag team. I have the 1591 kit. It's awesome. I'm running 11.5's consistently, and am making about 525 rwhp. Lots of low end torque. The eforce makes more low end torque the centri blowers. However if you plan on adding Meth go with a centri. I'm using the canned tune provided with the kit and it is smooth and ultra safe. If I wanted more power I would go with an AA Andy is probably one of the most helpfull, and successful centri guys out there. My goal was a mid 11 car, with a safe tune. I got that with the eforce. Also, Edelbrock offers a 3 yr/36k mile warranty. I like the look of the eforce as well. Fits like a glove!
Now, even with a lower compression 402, I run back to back 9.81, 0.81, 9.84. If it were not for a bad cam install by a vendor, the car would be a 9 second car on the stock block. Not many eforce M6 cars can hang with the centri kits. Once you are past 40-50mph, the party is over for an ECS vs EForce kit. Not knocking the Eforce, because I love the sound and instant hit of the power(and unike some, I've driven them). But it does nothing for me at the track or street racing. If a car beets me to 60, so be it on the street.
ECS base kit is the way to go
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That's exactly why I'm not a fan of the EForce, and hope you don't take offense to it. Only a couple guys here that have put down solid numbers. With just a centri kit, I ran 11.1's on 285-19 inch worn out run flat tires. Trapped 130-132mph. Added meth an drag radials, made 3-4 passes in the car, and ran 10.5's @136mph(all on video with runflats and drag radials). With more seat time, the car should have gone 10.2's, but didn't have a cage so one and done with a M6 and got the track boot. 119mph is what my My C5Z trapped with just headers in a 1000ft DA at 383rwhp and 383rwhp. Can't imagine dropping the money on a blower and running that MPH.
Now, even with a lower compression 402, I run back to back 9.81, 0.81, 9.84. If it were not for a bad cam install by a vendor, the car would be a 9 second car on the stock block. Not many eforce M6 cars can hang with the centri kits. Once you are past 40-50mph, the party is over for an ECS vs EForce kit. Not knocking the Eforce, because I love the sound and instant hit of the power(and unike some, I've driven them). But it does nothing for me at the track or street racing. If a car beets me to 60, so be it on the street.
ECS base kit is the way to go
Now, even with a lower compression 402, I run back to back 9.81, 0.81, 9.84. If it were not for a bad cam install by a vendor, the car would be a 9 second car on the stock block. Not many eforce M6 cars can hang with the centri kits. Once you are past 40-50mph, the party is over for an ECS vs EForce kit. Not knocking the Eforce, because I love the sound and instant hit of the power(and unike some, I've driven them). But it does nothing for me at the track or street racing. If a car beets me to 60, so be it on the street.
ECS base kit is the way to go
I don't get involved in these blower debates because I believe its a matter of personal preference but just to make sure the facts are out there....
I hadn't been to a dragstrip in 25 years and drove terribly but when I ran my car it trapped over 128 mph. Stock LS2 with an eforce and headers and safe conservative tune. I'm sure with some seat time this season I will see easy 10's.
I'm not saying an eforce is faster, I'm just saying it can hold its own and is fast enough!
Enjoy what ever blower you get. I know I am.
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Go with a A&A or ECS kit if your care about PERFORMANCE and TOP NOTCH CUSTOMER SUPPORT. They both produce a SUPERIOR supercharger kit compared to the manufacturers. Also both of these systems will be cheaper up front and have much more room for expansion if you choose to make more power in the future.
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Go with a A&A or ECS kit if your care about PERFORMANCE and TOP NOTCH CUSTOMER SUPPORT. They both produce a SUPERIOR supercharger kit compared to the manufacturers. Also both of these systems will be cheaper up front and have much more room for expansion if you choose to make more power in the future.
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I don't get involved in these blower debates because I believe its a matter of personal preference but just to make sure the facts are out there....
I hadn't been to a dragstrip in 25 years and drove terribly but when I ran my car it trapped over 128 mph. Stock LS2 with an eforce and headers and safe conservative tune. I'm sure with some seat time this season I will see easy 10's.
I'm not saying an eforce is faster, I'm just saying it can hold its own and is fast enough!
Enjoy what ever blower you get. I know I am.
I hadn't been to a dragstrip in 25 years and drove terribly but when I ran my car it trapped over 128 mph. Stock LS2 with an eforce and headers and safe conservative tune. I'm sure with some seat time this season I will see easy 10's.
I'm not saying an eforce is faster, I'm just saying it can hold its own and is fast enough!
Enjoy what ever blower you get. I know I am.
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As long as you are happy that's all that matters. I have a couple of friends that think I was silly for not buying a 2300. However, kept the stock hood and I'm happy A&A w/10#'s of boost, meth, and Circle D 3200-3400 stall. Enough is enough. Local track recently went through a change of ownership and re-opens on April 28th.
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ECS or A&A all the way IMO.
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As long as you are happy that's all that matters. I have a couple of friends that think I was silly for not buying a 2300. However, kept the stock hood and I'm happy A&A w/10#'s of boost, meth, and Circle D 3200-3400 stall. Enough is enough. Local track recently went through a change of ownership and re-opens on April 28th.
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Go with a A&A or ECS kit if your care about PERFORMANCE and TOP NOTCH CUSTOMER SUPPORT. They both produce a SUPERIOR supercharger kit compared to the manufacturers. Also both of these systems will be cheaper up front and have much more room for expansion if you choose to make more power in the future.