Well, I finally did it.. (ECS /FSP)
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do the epoxy floor. iv had it for 12 years now (sikafloor 216) and its very durable and absolutly gasoline/oil resistant. just dont spill any acetone or stuff like that. you also cant mig weld, the dropletts will burn the floor. its not uv stable, so it will change color near the door, but so what? (iv done an uv stable coating on the exterior strip outside of the door.) you condition the floor with phosphoric acid (15%) and do a base coat (sikafloor 156) twice. very important, if you do it once you will have plenty of tiny air buble holes. just get a professional product from a reputable manufacturer (yes its swiss):
https://usa.sika.com/content/usa/flo...r_coating.html
https://usa.sika.com/content/usa/flo...r_coating.html
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My issue with the floor isn't chemicals, gas, etc, it is just that I grind, hammer, press, jack, etc etc and it chips. I guess I could be nicer to it, but ohh well.
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Any recomendations on what epoxy floor product(s) to use? It seems there's about 500 of them these days
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I did, oops. I’ll check into those, thanks.
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I laid this one down last month. It turned out nice but I need to put more traffic on it before giving a final opinion.
https://www.armorgarage.com/garage-e...anite-kit.html
https://www.armorgarage.com/garage-e...anite-kit.html
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Thanks, I'll look into that one too
Does anyone know if PPG has a decent one? I can get a huge discount on PPG products so that'd be nice, but not worth it if their epoxy products suck or something (obviously)
Does anyone know if PPG has a decent one? I can get a huge discount on PPG products so that'd be nice, but not worth it if their epoxy products suck or something (obviously)
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Wow. Congrats. you really lucked out because I bought a new (to me) house last summer and still plowing through renovations, upgrades and maintenance.
Unfortunately not in the garage. My 2 cents of the garage floor is the prep is the most important part.
Unfortunately not in the garage. My 2 cents of the garage floor is the prep is the most important part.
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Back from the dead!
What would you guys suggest tire wise? My NT05R's are done for and I don't really want another drag radial as I was always trying to avoid rain when I had them which is problematic given I work over an hour away.
Maybe some regular NT05's? I know I'm going to lose some traction but I'm more focused on actually driving the car whenever/wherever I want to right now.
What would you guys suggest tire wise? My NT05R's are done for and I don't really want another drag radial as I was always trying to avoid rain when I had them which is problematic given I work over an hour away.
Maybe some regular NT05's? I know I'm going to lose some traction but I'm more focused on actually driving the car whenever/wherever I want to right now.
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Back from the dead!
What would you guys suggest tire wise? My NT05R's are done for and I don't really want another drag radial as I was always trying to avoid rain when I had them which is problematic given I work over an hour away.
Maybe some regular NT05's? I know I'm going to lose some traction but I'm more focused on actually driving the car whenever/wherever I want to right now.
What would you guys suggest tire wise? My NT05R's are done for and I don't really want another drag radial as I was always trying to avoid rain when I had them which is problematic given I work over an hour away.
Maybe some regular NT05's? I know I'm going to lose some traction but I'm more focused on actually driving the car whenever/wherever I want to right now.
I had normal NT05's on my gto and they wouldn't hook for ****
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But my nt05r’s were literally a couple of years old and had an absurd number of miles on them for a drag radial. I’m not sure how they lasted that long. I’m assuming they were hard as **** from being heat cycled so many times over the years.
r888r’s I’ve read are a really good all around tire. The downside is they’re expensive and loud as ****. Might be my best option though.
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The thing to consider is that any soft compound competition tire like a drag radial (and even the Toyo triple 8) is going to “dry out” and harden after a few dozen heat cycles, and then they turn into hockey pucks and won’t hook for ****. My NT05Rs were completely hardened and became as bad in the dry as they were in the rain, before I took them off.
So, if you want an everyday use kind of tire that will last a while, you may have to get a Michelin or one of the better street tires and live with the backend swinging round on you when you get to judicious with the right foot. On the bright side, they’ll hook much better in the rain than those suicidal NT05Rs for sure.
IF you want to get something that can handle power and you don’t care if it wears out quick (before they become hockey pucks anyway), just go all in and buy a proper full threaded Drag Radials like the M/T ET Street SS. That what I’m running on my car on the street now, although I don’t drive it much, except to and from the track, so I have no idea how long they would last you. I drove with them through heavy rain to the track a couple of months ago, and they were markedly better than the NT05Rs too.
The thing to consider is that any soft compound competition tire like a drag radial (and even the Toyo triple 8) is going to “dry out” and harden after a few dozen heat cycles, and then they turn into hockey pucks and won’t hook for ****. My NT05Rs were completely hardened and became as bad in the dry as they were in the rain, before I took them off.
So, if you want an everyday use kind of tire that will last a while, you may have to get a Michelin or one of the better street tires and live with the backend swinging round on you when you get to judicious with the right foot. On the bright side, they’ll hook much better in the rain than those suicidal NT05Rs for sure.
IF you want to get something that can handle power and you don’t care if it wears out quick (before they become hockey pucks anyway), just go all in and buy a proper full threaded Drag Radials like the M/T ET Street SS. That what I’m running on my car on the street now, although I don’t drive it much, except to and from the track, so I have no idea how long they would last you. I drove with them through heavy rain to the track a couple of months ago, and they were markedly better than the NT05Rs too.
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Thanks, I’ll check those out too. In my head I’m thinking it’s basically I’m either going to use a regular tire and never have traction at 70+ when I’m on it hard which can obviously be pretty dangerous, or not have traction in the rain. I’m not sure which is worse, lol
I’ll post some pics up again soon. Had some slight damage from my little foray into the ditch so going to have to fix that and buy some tires while I’m at it. Busted the radiator and radiator support (which was already half broken anyways) so that’s my first project to fix and get it running again
I’ll post some pics up again soon. Had some slight damage from my little foray into the ditch so going to have to fix that and buy some tires while I’m at it. Busted the radiator and radiator support (which was already half broken anyways) so that’s my first project to fix and get it running again
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Thanks, I’ll check those out too. In my head I’m thinking it’s basically I’m either going to use a regular tire and never have traction at 70+ when I’m on it hard which can obviously be pretty dangerous, or not have traction in the rain. I’m not sure which is worse, lol
I’ll post some pics up again soon. Had some slight damage from my little foray into the ditch so going to have to fix that and buy some tires while I’m at it. Busted the radiator and radiator support (which was already half broken anyways) so that’s my first project to fix and get it running again
I’ll post some pics up again soon. Had some slight damage from my little foray into the ditch so going to have to fix that and buy some tires while I’m at it. Busted the radiator and radiator support (which was already half broken anyways) so that’s my first project to fix and get it running again
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True. Doesn’t sound as fun but I already took the long tubes off anyways so that could be an easy option to keep it under control
I also just ordered a Dragy so that’ll be a new toy too
https://burgertuning.com/products/dr...formance-meter
I also just ordered a Dragy so that’ll be a new toy too
https://burgertuning.com/products/dr...formance-meter
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#4038
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FWIW with the R88R's...
Just sold my old set (50% tread life remaining, they were 2-years old) with rims. They didn't hook well even in 2nd. In fact never, LOL..
Just threw on my NEW set of C7 ZR1 rims with fresh R888R's...man, dead hook in 2nd. They hook - initially - really well.
Sorry, can not offer any experience in wet weather however...
WAIT! I actually experienced a lot of wet weather bringing the car home from AZ back to the Bay Area. I did not experience any issues, driving for over 1 hour in bad rain. I lightly goosed it a couple of times trying to understand the point of loss of traction, and it didn't break loose so I didn't push it more...sorry to hear you went in to a ditch! Glad everything is okay though!
Just sold my old set (50% tread life remaining, they were 2-years old) with rims. They didn't hook well even in 2nd. In fact never, LOL..
Just threw on my NEW set of C7 ZR1 rims with fresh R888R's...man, dead hook in 2nd. They hook - initially - really well.
WAIT! I actually experienced a lot of wet weather bringing the car home from AZ back to the Bay Area. I did not experience any issues, driving for over 1 hour in bad rain. I lightly goosed it a couple of times trying to understand the point of loss of traction, and it didn't break loose so I didn't push it more...sorry to hear you went in to a ditch! Glad everything is okay though!
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I had regular NT05's on my 700rwhp GS and they would spin in 3rd gear-completely worthless at this power level. Switched to NT05R's and it still spins in 1st and 2nd, but it grips and accelerates much harder.
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True. Doesn’t sound as fun but I already took the long tubes off anyways so that could be an easy option to keep it under control
I also just ordered a Dragy so that’ll be a new toy too
https://burgertuning.com/products/dr...formance-meter
I also just ordered a Dragy so that’ll be a new toy too
https://burgertuning.com/products/dr...formance-meter
BTW: meant to say that earlier that it was sad to hear that you had literally ditched the Vette, but glad to see that you’re climbing back in the saddle again. I’m sure you can wring another couple hundred thousand miles out of it. GM should step up at some point and give you a new C8 (or we should start a go fund me account) for all the useful guidance you’ve given folks on these forums...
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