What if I dont relocate my IAT sensor?
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What if I dont relocate my IAT sensor?
Just wondering...on a boosted ls7 with meth....
what if I dont relocate my IAT sensor...i.e. I just leave it in the MAF, pre-meth?
what if I dont relocate my IAT sensor...i.e. I just leave it in the MAF, pre-meth?
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Then the IAT reading won't match reality, and any calculations that use that temp will be wrong
And you'll have no simple way of knowing whether the meth is actually spraying/pulling timing if not
Is it truly a huge deal, depending on the level of meth dependence?...not a clue. My guess would be not as much as most think.
It's quite simple to relocate though so I don't see much reason not to do it
And you'll have no simple way of knowing whether the meth is actually spraying/pulling timing if not
Is it truly a huge deal, depending on the level of meth dependence?...not a clue. My guess would be not as much as most think.
It's quite simple to relocate though so I don't see much reason not to do it
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If anything it would just mean you are losing power as it will read hot, and pull timing when not needed. Basically you will get a little safety with the meth, but very little to any performance increase.
That is assuming you leave IAT tables aggressive at pulling timing out. Other option is to nerf the tables up so it doesn't pull timing, assume meth is on, and just lose any safety factor. If meth doesn't spray, car is assuming it is, and boom.
That is assuming you leave IAT tables aggressive at pulling timing out. Other option is to nerf the tables up so it doesn't pull timing, assume meth is on, and just lose any safety factor. If meth doesn't spray, car is assuming it is, and boom.
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Then the IAT reading won't match reality, and any calculations that use that temp will be wrong
And you'll have no simple way of knowing whether the meth is actually spraying/pulling timing if not
Is it truly a huge deal, depending on the level of meth dependence?...not a clue. My guess would be not as much as most think.
It's quite simple to relocate though so I don't see much reason not to do it
And you'll have no simple way of knowing whether the meth is actually spraying/pulling timing if not
Is it truly a huge deal, depending on the level of meth dependence?...not a clue. My guess would be not as much as most think.
It's quite simple to relocate though so I don't see much reason not to do it
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It basically just means that you will have to run the IAT timing as if it had no meth, and in the event of a pump failure you will not be able to program timing pull safety into the tune via IAT.
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Then the IAT reading won't match reality, and any calculations that use that temp will be wrong
And you'll have no simple way of knowing whether the meth is actually spraying/pulling timing if not
Is it truly a huge deal, depending on the level of meth dependence?...not a clue. My guess would be not as much as most think.
It's quite simple to relocate though so I don't see much reason not to do it
And you'll have no simple way of knowing whether the meth is actually spraying/pulling timing if not
Is it truly a huge deal, depending on the level of meth dependence?...not a clue. My guess would be not as much as most think.
It's quite simple to relocate though so I don't see much reason not to do it
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Require a retune? Uhh, doesn't require, but dialing in the IATs tables for meth can help safety and power. Even without retuning you will see good gains. Heck, shouldn't even be a retune or a charge, it is tweaking one table that takes 2 minutes.
Casper harness if you want plug and play so you don't have to cut any wires.
http://www.casperselectronics.com/st...oducts_id=1137
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Get new sensor, either use casper harness or extend 2 wires, done.
Require a retune? Uhh, doesn't require, but dialing in the IATs tables for meth can help safety and power. Even without retuning you will see good gains. Heck, shouldn't even be a retune or a charge, it is tweaking one table that takes 2 minutes.
Casper harness if you want plug and play so you don't have to cut any wires.
http://www.casperselectronics.com/st...oducts_id=1137
Require a retune? Uhh, doesn't require, but dialing in the IATs tables for meth can help safety and power. Even without retuning you will see good gains. Heck, shouldn't even be a retune or a charge, it is tweaking one table that takes 2 minutes.
Casper harness if you want plug and play so you don't have to cut any wires.
http://www.casperselectronics.com/st...oducts_id=1137
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Look for one for your maf. That one I posted was for ls3/7 style sensor. Stock sensor is in the maf, and remain there. You add a second sensor and then wire that in so ECU reads off that one. As you can see, goes maf, meth, then IAT. Stock IAT is still in the maf, just not used.
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Look for one for your maf. That one I posted was for ls3/7 style sensor. Stock sensor is in the maf, and remain there. You add a second sensor and then wire that in so ECU reads off that one. As you can see, goes maf, meth, then IAT. Stock IAT is still in the maf, just not used.
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To relocate it you have to install a new sensor somewhere after the meth nozzle, and then you will have to connect two wires to it. ECS has one that uses a rubber grommet. There is also a style that is threaded 3/8" NPT that you can install. I'm doing the 3/8" NPT. There's a spot on the passenger side of the intake manifold, right after the throttle body, where you can drill/tap a 3/8" NPT hole and install the sensor there
There are a few different ways to do it though
ECS sells a kit that includes the sensor and rubber grommet and I think the wiring adapter as well
Wiring wise you just have to get two wires that were originally connected to the MAF over to the new sensor.. you can do that by using a harness that splices into the original harness, or you can install the IAT connector right on the factory wires (assuming there's enough wire).
Just depends on how you want to do it
Cliff notes: install separate sensor, get two wires to it.
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The mechanic that is doing the install is good but has never done a blower install....is this going to be difficult to explain to him what i want done? Does the harness split for the maf and new iat sensor? Im guessing i can get a sensor through casper electronics as well?
They need to connect to the new IAT sensor
That's it.. any mechanic should be able to take care of it no problem.
I may have some pictures, I'll see if I can find any
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The mechanic that is doing the install is good but has never done a blower install....is this going to be difficult to explain to him what i want done? Does the harness split for the maf and new iat sensor? Im guessing i can get a sensor through casper electronics as well?
At least I think that's the one for LS2 cars.
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You want one of these: http://www.casperselectronics.com/st...oducts_id=1108
At least I think that's the one for LS2 cars.
At least I think that's the one for LS2 cars.
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If your tuner/mechanic doesn't know how to setup a meth setup, find a new one, you will just have more issues later if they can't figure something this basic out.
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Here's a picture I found earlier that shows where I'm going to put mine
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