Procharger i-1 system for the 08-13 C6
10-21-2015, 08:24 PM
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Sir please do update us on how this system works out for you. I spoke briefly to pro charger but the information wasn't enough. I want to go with the i-1 pro charger route but I want more tha. 500hp
10-21-2015, 08:31 PM
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would go with a procharger
P-1SC-1, the I-1 is supposed to be a boost when you want it no boost when you don't the unit only runs 1 psi in touring mod which doesn't give you any gain. The I-1 is a more conservative route.
10-21-2015, 08:32 PM
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What's it rated to CFM wise?
10-21-2015, 08:36 PM
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I understand the concept of variable boost I was wondering if I can achieve 700-800 hp with this system and additional mods.
10-22-2015, 05:20 AM
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10-22-2015, 10:17 AM
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10-22-2015, 10:19 AM
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650-700rw has been common.
We have tested above that.
However the computer inside the i-1 electronically limits the amount of impeller RPM the unit will achieve, to keep bearing life at its max.
The i-1 is designed for the guy that wants no other modifications other then the blower, or maybe a mild cam and exhaust. For guys wanting high HP race/street applications our "F" blower line is better suited for their needs.
We have tested above that.
However the computer inside the i-1 electronically limits the amount of impeller RPM the unit will achieve, to keep bearing life at its max.
The i-1 is designed for the guy that wants no other modifications other then the blower, or maybe a mild cam and exhaust. For guys wanting high HP race/street applications our "F" blower line is better suited for their needs.
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10-24-2015, 11:35 AM
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Is there a way to override the max impeller limiter?
10-24-2015, 12:59 PM
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No way the I1 will make anywhere near 800 RWHP. It simply will not push enough air for that HP level. What I have personally seen and experienced though is roughly 880 RWHP with the F1A and 1015 with the F1R and almost 1400 with the F1X.
I think the concept of the I1 though is brilliant with its variable boost capability which is UNIQUE of course in supercharger installations. If I were Procharger though, I would find a way to safely do 10-12PSI because that could get you in what I consider the sweet spot for a daily driver 750-850 RWHP.
I think they could change the impeller design to push more air at the same RPM levels without compromising the bearing life on the transmission. But then again, what the hell do I know? LOL
Manufacturers have a tendency to be conservative on their products because they dont want you to blame your blown motor on their products even if YOU are the one at fault.
I think the concept of the I1 though is brilliant with its variable boost capability which is UNIQUE of course in supercharger installations. If I were Procharger though, I would find a way to safely do 10-12PSI because that could get you in what I consider the sweet spot for a daily driver 750-850 RWHP.
I think they could change the impeller design to push more air at the same RPM levels without compromising the bearing life on the transmission. But then again, what the hell do I know? LOL
Manufacturers have a tendency to be conservative on their products because they dont want you to blame your blown motor on their products even if YOU are the one at fault.
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10-25-2015, 03:38 PM
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No way the I1 will make anywhere near 800 RWHP. It simply will not push enough air for that HP level. What I have personally seen and experienced though is roughly 880 RWHP with the F1A and 1015 with the F1R and almost 1400 with the F1X.
I think the concept of the I1 though is brilliant with its variable boost capability which is UNIQUE of course in supercharger installations. If I were Procharger though, I would find a way to safely do 10-12PSI because that could get you in what I consider the sweet spot for a daily driver 750-850 RWHP.
I think they could change the impeller design to push more air at the same RPM levels without compromising the bearing life on the transmission. But then again, what the hell do I know? LOL
Manufacturers have a tendency to be conservative on their products because they dont want you to blame your blown motor on their products even if YOU are the one at fault.
I think the concept of the I1 though is brilliant with its variable boost capability which is UNIQUE of course in supercharger installations. If I were Procharger though, I would find a way to safely do 10-12PSI because that could get you in what I consider the sweet spot for a daily driver 750-850 RWHP.
I think they could change the impeller design to push more air at the same RPM levels without compromising the bearing life on the transmission. But then again, what the hell do I know? LOL
Manufacturers have a tendency to be conservative on their products because they dont want you to blame your blown motor on their products even if YOU are the one at fault.
id love to see a procharger vid of it making 700whp tho..
10-26-2015, 10:15 AM
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No, that is hard coded in the firmware.
If it stays on that limiter to long, it will actually put it into limp mode.
Same as a car would: if it has a problem, its gonna protect itself.
The unit isn't designed for crazy high race applications. We have plenty of other blowers for that, and frankly at that point you don't need the features of this unit. The i-1 works great for trucks, cars that have poor gear ratios in the trans, and for guys that want to buy one power adder for their street car that can do it all. (within the HP limits of the unit)
If it stays on that limiter to long, it will actually put it into limp mode.
Same as a car would: if it has a problem, its gonna protect itself.
The unit isn't designed for crazy high race applications. We have plenty of other blowers for that, and frankly at that point you don't need the features of this unit. The i-1 works great for trucks, cars that have poor gear ratios in the trans, and for guys that want to buy one power adder for their street car that can do it all. (within the HP limits of the unit)
10-26-2015, 10:19 AM
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Yes, the vette market these days is pushing the power levels. But our most common kits are still for 100% stock cars, with cat back exhausts.
08-04-2018, 02:00 PM
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Procharger, why not do a limited time sale
If you get the i-1 for your car, I can assure you traction is going to be a major issue.
Its like having the best of both worlds, down low boost and the high end charge of a centrifugal. HOWEVER....
The best part is being able to bring the boost in slow till about 3,200rpm, then making it flat from there up. It really seems to help the Vettes hook up, and then pull like a freight train up top. Having to much to soon, just ends up in tire smoke.
I drive an i-1 vehicle daily, so I have plenty of time to enjoy this thing.
Its like having the best of both worlds, down low boost and the high end charge of a centrifugal. HOWEVER....
The best part is being able to bring the boost in slow till about 3,200rpm, then making it flat from there up. It really seems to help the Vettes hook up, and then pull like a freight train up top. Having to much to soon, just ends up in tire smoke.
I drive an i-1 vehicle daily, so I have plenty of time to enjoy this thing.
Why would you do that you say just to break even. Because it’s a loss leader with C7. Tons of used C7 now for cheap so people will have dollars to spend on something that won’t roast daily driver tires. Assumption is use customer mode and have no boost until roughly 3500. If I want to do sport or comp mode I throw on my M/Tv285/30r/20s and have fun for a few days. Put back on wheels with stock tires in less than 30 minutes to tour with custom mode.
PM me, and let’s make a deal.
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10-12-2018, 09:21 PM
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Our "sweet spot" for our customers that we sell to is actually 450-650rwhp. That is the current most common power level we spec blower pulleys for.
Yes, the vette market these days is pushing the power levels. But our most common kits are still for 100% stock cars, with cat back exhausts.
Yes, the vette market these days is pushing the power levels. But our most common kits are still for 100% stock cars, with cat back exhausts.
What Procharger series would you recommend and what other mods? The i-1 really intrigues me but will I be stopping short of my HP wishes?
1,000 HP guys stay out of this. I truly envy you but I can not afford the associated repairs LOL.
Thanks!
10-14-2018, 08:17 PM
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Short answer: Bottom end will take 800rwhp or so fine IF you can avoid knock, either by keeping power low enough, adding meth injection, or running E85.
Under 700rwhp will be reliable with meth/good tune.
~600rwhp or less should be reliable even on 93 octane pump fuel.
Transmission wise... not my specialty. Hopefully someone else can answer that one.
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Nothing wrong with Procharger, but there are other very good options (some would say better, depending on goals, especially if those goals aren't in the 1000+rwhp range)
Look into the ECS 1500 setup. More torque, plenty of headroom if you ever want to upgrade later, better bracket system, less belt issues. Base kit is good for up to 850rwhp on an M6, maybe a little less on an auto.
If you're dead set on using a Procharger head unit then A&A makes a bracket that is compatible with Procharger's head units. Buy the brackets from A&A and head unit from Procharger. Much better option.
ECS setup, long tubes and meth injection will do 700rwhp all day long with a good tune and will be reliable--really just depends on how far you want to go. If you want to just put a supercharger on an otherwise totally stock car, I'd still do ECS setup. That's what I did.. then did additional mods from there. Z06 headers/cats (can't stand the smell of not having cats), cam, E85, etc. Exact same base ECS kit throughout it all and I haven't had a belt issue in years
Under 700rwhp will be reliable with meth/good tune.
~600rwhp or less should be reliable even on 93 octane pump fuel.
Transmission wise... not my specialty. Hopefully someone else can answer that one.
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Nothing wrong with Procharger, but there are other very good options (some would say better, depending on goals, especially if those goals aren't in the 1000+rwhp range)
Look into the ECS 1500 setup. More torque, plenty of headroom if you ever want to upgrade later, better bracket system, less belt issues. Base kit is good for up to 850rwhp on an M6, maybe a little less on an auto.
If you're dead set on using a Procharger head unit then A&A makes a bracket that is compatible with Procharger's head units. Buy the brackets from A&A and head unit from Procharger. Much better option.
ECS setup, long tubes and meth injection will do 700rwhp all day long with a good tune and will be reliable--really just depends on how far you want to go. If you want to just put a supercharger on an otherwise totally stock car, I'd still do ECS setup. That's what I did.. then did additional mods from there. Z06 headers/cats (can't stand the smell of not having cats), cam, E85, etc. Exact same base ECS kit throughout it all and I haven't had a belt issue in years
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10-15-2018, 06:57 AM
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Thank you for the input. That is exactly the type of info I need. I really like your insight about future mods. There is no way I can say now with a non-supercharged car what HP will truly make me happy in the end. I am not at all dead set on Procharger but the i-1 system with a variable boost will get a really good look from me before I take the plunge. I have about a year to decide. Wife said I can throw as much money into the car as I want as long as I finish her house first. I was fine with that especially since she told me to buy it in the first place by simply telling me "Why not? You deserve it".