Bosch ANSU 1650 vs. ID 1700
08-25-2015, 01:21 PM
#21
08-25-2015, 03:29 PM
#22
Melting Slicks
08-25-2015, 03:41 PM
#23
The flow rate
The max differential pressure
The idle characteristics running E10 vs E85 (important for flex fuel)
A slight change in body height
The offset and short pulse data
The min pulse width
The price
What is similar is the SS internals
The direct fit applications
The UScar connector
It really comes down to the power you are trying to make. If a 1300 will cover it on E85 then I would use that over a 1700 especially if the cars runs flex fuel as opposed to E85 only. If you are making too much power for an ID1300 then a Bosch 1650 or ID1700 becomes the next step up for a direct fit Hi imp injector that will fit an LS3/7/9/A application directly or an LS2/1/6 application with a height and/or wiring adapter
The max differential pressure
The idle characteristics running E10 vs E85 (important for flex fuel)
A slight change in body height
The offset and short pulse data
The min pulse width
The price
What is similar is the SS internals
The direct fit applications
The UScar connector
It really comes down to the power you are trying to make. If a 1300 will cover it on E85 then I would use that over a 1700 especially if the cars runs flex fuel as opposed to E85 only. If you are making too much power for an ID1300 then a Bosch 1650 or ID1700 becomes the next step up for a direct fit Hi imp injector that will fit an LS3/7/9/A application directly or an LS2/1/6 application with a height and/or wiring adapter
Last edited by lt1z; 08-25-2015 at 03:43 PM.
08-25-2015, 05:59 PM
#24
Melting Slicks
The flow rate
The max differential pressure
The idle characteristics running E10 vs E85 (important for flex fuel)
A slight change in body height
The offset and short pulse data
The min pulse width
The price
What is similar is the SS internals
The direct fit applications
The UScar connector
It really comes down to the power you are trying to make. If a 1300 will cover it on E85 then I would use that over a 1700 especially if the cars runs flex fuel as opposed to E85 only. If you are making too much power for an ID1300 then a Bosch 1650 or ID1700 becomes the next step up for a direct fit Hi imp injector that will fit an LS3/7/9/A application directly or an LS2/1/6 application with a height and/or wiring adapter
The max differential pressure
The idle characteristics running E10 vs E85 (important for flex fuel)
A slight change in body height
The offset and short pulse data
The min pulse width
The price
What is similar is the SS internals
The direct fit applications
The UScar connector
It really comes down to the power you are trying to make. If a 1300 will cover it on E85 then I would use that over a 1700 especially if the cars runs flex fuel as opposed to E85 only. If you are making too much power for an ID1300 then a Bosch 1650 or ID1700 becomes the next step up for a direct fit Hi imp injector that will fit an LS3/7/9/A application directly or an LS2/1/6 application with a height and/or wiring adapter
08-25-2015, 06:26 PM
#25
Wow... i didn't realize there were so many differences. I thought from what I had read about them that they were essentially the same injector... just different sizes. I was initially going to run 1300's because my plan was to stay on 93 and meth at around 1000rwhp. I then decided to go 100% e85 which I figured would eat up a good bit of my extra injector space to grow on the 13's. Since i am considering adding nitrous later, I thought the 17's would be the way to go so I won't ever have to change injectors again. That and i was getting a good deal on either set and the 17's at my price were only $150 more so it seemed to be a no brainer.
Last edited by lt1z; 08-25-2015 at 06:30 PM.
08-25-2015, 06:42 PM
#26
Melting Slicks
Nitrous if a wet kit has nothing to do with the injectors. 93 and meth doesn't require even a 1300cc. The 1300cc should be able to cover a YSi on E85 but won't do an F1X etc.. Low pulse width idle will be better with the 1300 vs a 1700. I have not had a chance to directly compare a 1650 to 1700 yet.
08-25-2015, 07:38 PM
#27
6 speed auto tuning can be tricky with huge injectors. I would definitely run the smallest that I could get away with and still be safe fueling wise.
08-25-2015, 08:20 PM
#28
Melting Slicks
That's exactly what my tuner told me. He said he tuned a car with a similar setup to mine (making a little less power but it was an auto car) awhile back and the guy had ID2000's in the car as they were the next step up from the 1300's until these 1700's came out. He said he had issues with getting the drivability lined out and it didn't want to shift right. They replaced the 2000's with some 1300's and it solved the problem. He initially suggested the 1300's to me for my setup saying they should be enough for my setup even on e85. It was my thinking that maybe the 1700's would be the better option to leave myself the room to grow and to avoid ever having to buy another set of injectors. He said it's my choice and we can give them a shot and odds are... they will prob tune out fine for me. I just didn't want the duty cycle to be too high on the 1300's on the e85 but maybe that's not such a bad thing if you're saying I want basically the smallest I can get away with on my auto.
08-26-2015, 10:21 AM
#29
Drifting
The flow rate
The max differential pressure
The idle characteristics running E10 vs E85 (important for flex fuel)
A slight change in body height
The offset and short pulse data
The min pulse width
The price
What is similar is the SS internals
The direct fit applications
The UScar connector
Instead of trolling, you could have said that from the beginning
08-26-2015, 11:57 AM
#30
Clearly... But for the people reading this thread, who don't know that much about injectors see "flow and data" and don't know that the internals have be revamped.
The flow rate
The max differential pressure
The idle characteristics running E10 vs E85 (important for flex fuel)
A slight change in body height
The offset and short pulse data
The min pulse width
The price
What is similar is the SS internals
The direct fit applications
The UScar connector
Instead of trolling, you could have said that from the beginning
The flow rate
The max differential pressure
The idle characteristics running E10 vs E85 (important for flex fuel)
A slight change in body height
The offset and short pulse data
The min pulse width
The price
What is similar is the SS internals
The direct fit applications
The UScar connector
Instead of trolling, you could have said that from the beginning
I wasn't trolling. Perhaps you just didn't understand what I was getting at.
08-26-2015, 11:59 AM
#31
That's exactly what my tuner told me. He said he tuned a car with a similar setup to mine (making a little less power but it was an auto car) awhile back and the guy had ID2000's in the car as they were the next step up from the 1300's until these 1700's came out. He said he had issues with getting the drivability lined out and it didn't want to shift right. They replaced the 2000's with some 1300's and it solved the problem. He initially suggested the 1300's to me for my setup saying they should be enough for my setup even on e85. It was my thinking that maybe the 1700's would be the better option to leave myself the room to grow and to avoid ever having to buy another set of injectors. He said it's my choice and we can give them a shot and odds are... they will prob tune out fine for me. I just didn't want the duty cycle to be too high on the 1300's on the e85 but maybe that's not such a bad thing if you're saying I want basically the smallest I can get away with on my auto.
If you can keep the 1300s at the 85-90% DC level I wouldn't worry about it. I would rather that then a 1700 running at 50% DC in certain situations.