Unreal

Clutch, all the stuff to support cam, axles, tires, radiator, fans, wideband, etc etc.

Sky is the limit.

Fore or ECS for fuel system. Will want something that will support ~1000 on gas

Would strongly suggest at looking at other blower kit options IMO.

$750-800 for alky kit installed it about right.

Flex fuel setup will be $3500+ by the time you get injectors/sensor/pumps/etc.

Can'tHave2MuchHP

What other blower kits would you suggest? I think that ECS's systems with the Novis are nice, I just always liked ProCharger and common opinion of them seems pretty high. But I'm open still, as of now, nothing has been spent. That's what this thread is for, suggest away.

EvanZR1

I haven't done one, so I'll leave questions about Fore for someone else to answer (or call them). Personally, I've learned that you should never build just to your target level, because you'll probably end up wanting to go bigger at some point. I did the same thing when I put my blower on, said the Si would be all I'd ever need, only to have wished several times I'd done the T-trim.

Unreal

A&A and ECS are top notch kits. IMO much better than the PC units. PC makes a great head unit, but the rest of the kit leaves a bunch to be desired. If you really want a PC, order the A&A kit with a procharger.

EvanZR1

Absolutely agree on this. I looked at a lot of options, and A&A and ECS were the only ones I ended up considering. Ended up going A&A because of installer and have been very happy with it.

Can'tHave2MuchHP

Alright you guys are making me reconsider. Between the two, I know ECS better and believe they do make a great kit. A Novi 1500 kit looks like it'll top at about 800-850 RWHP and that's spinning it hard, but keeping it at about 780ish or so will results in a better overall power band. A 2200 seems for 900+ which I can't do.

Interesting fact, I just talked to a Livernois Motorsports (local big shop) and they said that anything over 650 RWHP and they'd be building me an engine to retain durability and reliability.

Detoxx03

Call Futral Motorsports and have them spec you a cam.

No way would I even bother with Livernois. If you want someone local to work on it call Boost Controlled Performance in Livonia.

Can'tHave2MuchHP

Yeah I've known them to do good work in the past with some LSA cars but after reading that I was just like, yeah no. Forget it.

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Anyways at this point I'm now looking at ECS kits. They're definitely much more of a plug and play thing instead of piecing together your own stuff. The question is, is the end results the same/better if you piece your own or just trust ECS to do it for you.

I've got a email into Vengeance Racing and a few other shops I trust and will talk to Futral when I can.

Detoxx03

Little FYI I've been running a PC kit since 2011 and haven't had any issues. The only thing I changed was the bracket and that was only because I switched everything to 10 rib and PC doesn't offer anything in 10 rib. Other than that the kit has been great and without all the issues people here constantly bring up.

JetstreamGS

Please find me someone who will install an Alky kit for $150

schpenxel

Forged engine for 650rwhp is funny

Can'tHave2MuchHP

How about speccing a ECS kit...Again, keeping in mind my numbers, would I be better off going with a Novi 2200 which is marginally bigger (I think) than the D1SC or the Novi 1500?

schpenxel

1500 IMO

Here's what I would do:
-ECS 1500, 3.25" pulley, no restrictor. Tell them to leave out the injectors and BAP
-ARH long tubes (or whatever brand you like)
-Alky control meth (probably not 100% required if running E85 all the time)
-ECS stage 1 (Aeromotive 340 pump I believe) or if you really want to be sure, ECS stage 1 E85 fuel system (A1000 pump)
-Flex fuel sensor setup from DSX
-ID1300X injectors, DSX has those too
-Blower cam from Pat G or ECS has one or Pat G can spec you one, any of those will work. Add valve springs, etc. that whoever you buy the cam from recommends. I did Pat G cam, BTR dual 660 springs
-Mantic 9000 twin clutch
-Wideband

I'm sure I'll remember something else right after I hit post on this, but that's the gist of it. ECS makes ~700 all day long on totally stock motors with 3 mods. ECS kit, meth, long tubes. You're basically just going to need to add a cam and fuel system to support E85, and a clutch

Can'tHave2MuchHP

Thanks a lot.

I was hoping to stay on the stock clutch and then replace it once I'd blown it but looks like that's not going to be possible?

Detoxx03

For 800 the 1500

Just get the Mantic triple so you don't have to buy again. No way a stock clutch will last and that will save you money vs having to tear the car apart again to install it later.

schpenxel

You can do that if you want, honestly I'd call ECS and see where the stock ones start slipping. They'll know as well as anyone. If you're for sure going to be over that then plan on a clutch in the beginning, if not then run it till it smokes

EvanZR1

I'm still running stock clutch and it's holding. I had some issues this year, but I think they were more due to clutch master cylinder. If your master hasn't been changed out under the TSB/extended coverage, have it done before doing the blower so they don't give you a hard time about mods. I will say though, that 700+ wheel is going to be right at the limit (maybe over the limit) of what the stock LS3/7 clutch can handle, especially depending on use. Mine has held up ok, but then I have never done a 1/4 mile pass, all my use is street, 1/2 mile and mile. Had a friend with very similar setup that killed the stock clutch on I believe his second time going to the drag strip.

Can'tHave2MuchHP

I'll look into that warranty claim. I'll probably just put a Mantic triple in it right off the bat, probably $2400 well spent.

Unreal

Premier in Utah did mine for that. Was bored and paid them to do it.

A lot of shops run specials on doing them. Once you get it down and do a few, it is super easy.

Can'tHave2MuchHP

Alright guys, just have a couple more questions and things I want to clear up.

First off; Fuel. I'm thinking that I want to go with the ECS Stage 1 E85 Fuel system. So if I order that, (It says it does not include injectors), what will I need to order along with it? Just a set of ID1300s or something?

Second off; Cam. I've been recommended a cam with the following specs: 231/239 .617/.624 115+4. What do you guys think?

Also settled on a Monster LT-1S Triple clutch. Still not settled on a blower. Although I think if a good shop was doing the install, I'd go with the ProCharger. But for doing it myself, I think the ECS would be a lot easier.

Thanks