APS TTC6 rwhp questions
12-22-2018, 04:49 PM
#1
Racer
Thread Starter
APS TTC6 rwhp questions
Looking for any real world dyno proven (or time slip equivalent) answers as to how much RWHP the APS TTC6 kit makes.
Bone stock ls2, stock turbos/downpipes/inlets, boost-a-pump, etc.
Website shows nearly 700 flywheel HP, which would be in the realm of 600 RWHP on a 6spd car.
It also states 10.5psi peak boost, 9psi at redline.
So, does anyone know what kind of power this kit makes on a bone stock (let's say 2005) ls2 T56 car?
Has anyone been able to squeeze more power than this out of the STOCK APS kit?
What is the max boost achieved from these turbos breathing through the long factory air filter setup?
just wondering, I am in a long talk with my brother about the direction of a new build and trying to set some goals.
Bone stock ls2, stock turbos/downpipes/inlets, boost-a-pump, etc.
Website shows nearly 700 flywheel HP, which would be in the realm of 600 RWHP on a 6spd car.
It also states 10.5psi peak boost, 9psi at redline.
So, does anyone know what kind of power this kit makes on a bone stock (let's say 2005) ls2 T56 car?
Has anyone been able to squeeze more power than this out of the STOCK APS kit?
What is the max boost achieved from these turbos breathing through the long factory air filter setup?
just wondering, I am in a long talk with my brother about the direction of a new build and trying to set some goals.
12-23-2018, 08:50 PM
#2
Burning Brakes
I can’t give you any information on an aps kit but my stock ls3 (with turbo cam) made 800 with an On3 kit 62mm turbos. I know this isn’t what you were looking for but could give you an idea as far as power goes.
12-23-2018, 09:04 PM
#3
Racer
Thread Starter
So an LS3 with decent cam and twin 62's makes 800hp. How much boost?
How about these questions - (2005 ls2/t56 base)
(leave fueling requirements and other stuff, just looking for approximate boost numbers)
How much boost would it take on a BONE STOCK LS2 to make 800 RWHP?
How much boost would it take on a BONE STOCK LS2 to make 1000 RWHP?
12-24-2018, 03:15 AM
#4
Doubt you're going to be able to push a 'BONE STOCK' ls2 to 800-1000hp with just boost. Also doubt your 05 drivetrain is going to hold it, you should probably do some more research on it.
12-24-2018, 09:41 AM
#6
Racer
Thread Starter
2850lb 1988 coupe procharged with 450rwhp at 13psi @ 10.5AFR with not a lot of timing and straight water through the meth system on dyno day.
...That is to say I could clean up the tune and let her eat.
12-24-2018, 10:19 AM
#7
I would like to note that the "boost" number means absolutely nothing. In the case of this kit it is nothing but a sales number. In no way does boost = power on a set basis from motor to motor turbo to turbo ect. Stop looking at psi it does not = air flow or any kind of measure of how safe something is for the stock motor. The stock motor does not care if you run 10 psi or 50.
It is a gen 4 motor however so it should hold similar to as much as g23s or my setup can hold in theory. Guys have made in the 1k range stock but know that anything is a ticking time bomb so do not expect thousands of miles at 900whp on it even though some do have good success doing so because others have broken it at 600whp.
If you are serious then the only way i would be somewhat confident is with a better turbo kit, put a turbo cam in the car, and use e85 not 93 with a meth dependency that will end up nuking the sbe. Make sure you have enough fuel pump and injector aka not a boost a pump with some junk injectors ect.
It is a gen 4 motor however so it should hold similar to as much as g23s or my setup can hold in theory. Guys have made in the 1k range stock but know that anything is a ticking time bomb so do not expect thousands of miles at 900whp on it even though some do have good success doing so because others have broken it at 600whp.
If you are serious then the only way i would be somewhat confident is with a better turbo kit, put a turbo cam in the car, and use e85 not 93 with a meth dependency that will end up nuking the sbe. Make sure you have enough fuel pump and injector aka not a boost a pump with some junk injectors ect.
12-24-2018, 10:52 AM
#8
Racer
Thread Starter
I would like to note that the "boost" number means absolutely nothing. In the case of this kit it is nothing but a sales number. In no way does boost = power on a set basis from motor to motor turbo to turbo ect. Stop looking at psi it does not = air flow or any kind of measure of how safe something is for the stock motor. The stock motor does not care if you run 10 psi or 50.
It is a gen 4 motor however so it should hold similar to as much as g23s or my setup can hold in theory. Guys have made in the 1k range stock but know that anything is a ticking time bomb so do not expect thousands of miles at 900whp on it even though some do have good success doing so because others have broken it at 600whp.
If you are serious then the only way i would be somewhat confident is with a better turbo kit, put a turbo cam in the car, and use e85 not 93 with a meth dependency that will end up nuking the sbe. Make sure you have enough fuel pump and injector aka not a boost a pump with some junk injectors ect.
It is a gen 4 motor however so it should hold similar to as much as g23s or my setup can hold in theory. Guys have made in the 1k range stock but know that anything is a ticking time bomb so do not expect thousands of miles at 900whp on it even though some do have good success doing so because others have broken it at 600whp.
If you are serious then the only way i would be somewhat confident is with a better turbo kit, put a turbo cam in the car, and use e85 not 93 with a meth dependency that will end up nuking the sbe. Make sure you have enough fuel pump and injector aka not a boost a pump with some junk injectors ect.
Read the post above, these are all questions I had regarding a friend of mine's car that I am trying to guesstimate. I have only ever heard rumors of the car making just stupid crazy power, I just wanted to see if there was any truth in it by way of asking you guys a couple of questions.
12-24-2018, 11:55 AM
#9
Boost would be a good indicator of power if it is the same exact motor (stock ls2) and same exact APS twin turbo kit with similar tune. Thanks for your input.
Read the post above, these are all questions I had regarding a friend of mine's car that I am trying to guesstimate. I have only ever heard rumors of the car making just stupid crazy power, I just wanted to see if there was any truth in it by way of asking you guys a couple of questions.
Read the post above, these are all questions I had regarding a friend of mine's car that I am trying to guesstimate. I have only ever heard rumors of the car making just stupid crazy power, I just wanted to see if there was any truth in it by way of asking you guys a couple of questions.
Ahh I missed that post
As a person who probably spends a bit to much fun time racing id put my $ on the sbe ls2 car with a aps kit not being very fast. I’ve been wrong before for sure but the aps kits seem extremely poor just look at the graph they use to advertise the car makes like 100hp less only 1k rpm before redline. After peak it just drops off hard also and they stop spinning it anyways. If the car is anything like they advertise on the graph every time he shifts he ends up at ls3 head cam power levels.
Last edited by Shortpersonbk; 12-24-2018 at 11:57 AM.
12-24-2018, 12:11 PM
#10
Racer
Thread Starter
Ahh I missed that post
As a person who probably spends a bit to much fun time racing id put my $ on the sbe ls2 car with a aps kit not being very fast. I’ve been wrong before for sure but the aps kits seem extremely poor just look at the graph they use to advertise the car makes like 100hp less only 1k rpm before redline. After peak it just drops off hard also and they stop spinning it anyways. If the car is anything like they advertise on the graph every time he shifts he ends up at ls3 head cam power levels.
The kit looks so nice, and the thought of 700fwhp on tap sounds awesome. I was just led to believe it made a lot more than that at the wheels.
So sbe ls2 apsTTC6 vs 450rwhp+75 shot 2850lb sbe L98 c4... who is your money on?
12-25-2018, 03:43 PM
#11
thi
A stock APS kit at 6-7psi made right on 600/600rw (Mustang Dyno) on my stock LS3 C6, including the factory NPP catback. This was with my calibration (0.78 lambda, zero knock).
Last edited by TurboLX; 12-25-2018 at 03:43 PM.
12-26-2018, 10:29 AM
#12
I use to have stock C6 APS kit on me C6 with LS2 402. It will run out at 600-650 RWHP. I did swap to Precision 5830 witch you can get as direct fit to the C6 kit. https://www.precisionturbo.net/turbo...rger---5830/78
Stock turbo on C6 kit are not grate ad do not les long. Those 5830 are game changer for this kit and you can reach 800-900 RWHP on those. Also you have way more power from lower RPM and all the way to high RPM.
Stock turbo on C6 kit are not grate ad do not les long. Those 5830 are game changer for this kit and you can reach 800-900 RWHP on those. Also you have way more power from lower RPM and all the way to high RPM.
12-26-2018, 10:02 PM
#13
Safety Car
Stock 2007 MN6 LS2 with APS and tune ended up at 582/586 on a Dynojet. Stock actuator springs and I don't remember boost, maybe 5 psi?
Last edited by shor0814; 12-26-2018 at 10:03 PM.