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Old 02-02-2019, 05:36 PM
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I know the shop that has done the work on mine has boxed one...and we've boxed frames on cars here before so I say go for it. Go ahead and cut as you need and get your clearance with a bit extra wiggle room just in case.
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Old 02-02-2019, 07:06 PM
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I installed a stock 2005 fan shroud on my 2012 with ECS kit, and this made a big difference. More airflow with full shroud while car is stopped. No more A/C cutoff in stop and go summer traffic. Had to trim the '05 shroud slightly to fit. Also had to relocate oil cooler.
Standard 06-13 shroud v. 2005 version. Pretty obvious why the 06-13 version doesn't perform well at a standstill.



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Old 02-05-2019, 06:13 PM
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Are the plugs/connection the same for the 2005 vs 2006-2013? Or will the fan from 06-13 bolt up to the 05 shroud?

Hard to tell from pic.

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Old 02-05-2019, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by da6speed View Post
Are the plugs/connection the same for the 2005 vs 2006-2013? Or will the fan from 06-13 bolt up to the 05 shroud?

Hard to tell from pic.

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I am almost certain that the connections are the same. My fan was hardwired with the SC install, so I just used the existing fan with the 05 shroud. No issues, bolts right in. You do have to twist off the fan blades and reinstall, as I recall.
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:26 PM
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I have a Grand Sport with a ECS 1500 setup on it and was consistently seeing 235+ in traffic here in AZ heat. I had a full size dewitts and prospeed fan setup put in and it dropped temps to 215-217 in the summer now. Here in the winter once it warms up (which it takes a while now) it never gets above 207. I'd do them both at the same time if you're paying a shop so you don't have to pay the labor twice.
I tried installing a D3 dual spal fan setup from ProSpeed in my 2006 base Z51 car which has a Dart 427 block and YSI billet and there was no room for the fan shroud because of the supercharger. I talked to Josh about it and he said I was the only one that had this problem. I asked my Speed Shop to try to fabricate to make it fit but they told me it was not possible. Josh would not take it back without a 40% restocking fee....not real happy about that since I am sure that I am not the only thick-headed person who has been led to believe that they fit like a glove with no mods. How did you get yours to fit?
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by vettemayhem
I tried installing a D3 dual spal fan setup from ProSpeed in my 2006 base Z51 car which has a Dart 427 block and YSI billet and there was no room for the fan shroud because of the supercharger. I talked to Josh about it and he said I was the only one that had this problem. I asked my Speed Shop to try to fabricate to make it fit but they told me it was not possible. Josh would not take it back without a 40% restocking fee....not real happy about that since I am sure that I am not the only thick-headed person who has been led to believe that they fit like a glove with no mods. How did you get yours to fit?
Mine don't fit either. Biggest issue is that the fans are so thick with the bigger motors and the supercharger outlet goes right into the passenger fan so I'm working to pull things forward some and possibly clearance the back of the fan on the passenger side some to make it work. It will certainly work but not easily. Probably worth the trouble for the added flow.
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:56 PM
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If either of you guys have the D3 fans made for the Dewitts shortened radiator, I'll take it off your hands.
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by EnginerdVT View Post
Mine don't fit either. Biggest issue is that the fans are so thick with the bigger motors and the supercharger outlet goes right into the passenger fan so I'm working to pull things forward some and possibly clearance the back of the fan on the passenger side some to make it work. It will certainly work but not easily. Probably worth the trouble for the added flow.
Ok, great! Would you be will to share with this group the process with pics?
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:26 AM
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Ok, great! Would you be will to share with this group the process with pics?
Absolutely... I'll be up there again this weekend if all goes well. Right now I've got the Procharger radiator bracket, Griffin cutdown radiator (A&A's customer spec version they sell with their supercharger kits), the cutdown prospeed fan setup from D3, Procharger race core intercooler and my factory A/C condenser... Right now The radiator fits in there with the intercooler but the fans are too far back so they are right in the outlet path of my F1X, so I'm working to either lay it back less or might have to look into scooting the procharger radiator support bracket forward some more.

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If either of you guys have the D3 fans made for the Dewitts shortened radiator, I'll take it off your hands.
I do but I intend to make them work because I already have them and they are an improvement over my stock 06-13 fan setup... I'll keep you posted if I change my mind.
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Old 02-06-2019, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EnginerdVT View Post
Absolutely... I'll be up there again this weekend if all goes well. Right now I've got the Procharger radiator bracket, Griffin cutdown radiator (A&A's customer spec version they sell with their supercharger kits), the cutdown prospeed fan setup from D3, Procharger race core intercooler and my factory A/C condenser... Right now The radiator fits in there with the intercooler but the fans are too far back so they are right in the outlet path of my F1X, so I'm working to either lay it back less or might have to look into scooting the procharger radiator support bracket forward some more.



I do but I intend to make them work because I already have them and they are an improvement over my stock 06-13 fan setup... I'll keep you posted if I change my mind.
So do you think the D3 fan set up is superior to the Griffin aluminum fan/shroud set up for C6?
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Old 02-06-2019, 12:55 PM
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So do you think the D3 fan set up is superior to the Griffin aluminum fan/shroud set up for C6?
I'm not familiar with their setup so I'm not sure. I'll look into it.
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Old 02-06-2019, 05:45 PM
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Not sure whatís yalls set up look like or how much thicker or taller the factory system is, or if a base and GS have less room than a ZO6 but my Prospeed fan fit easily on the dewits short cut, the full size it would have been the same just would have had to modify for the intake and filter. Iíve also never heard of another vette guy not getting the Prospeed to fit, tons of room and Iíve got the EOC and ac condenser all in the same locations so this seems kinda odd, what intercooler set up? Maybe thatís eating up all the space? I mean the shop that originally put the fan in turned out to be complete and absolute morons....and those idiots got it to fit with ease. I found out down the road just how incompetent these guys were so Iím very surprised two of you are having the same issues....leads me to believe there is some sort of major difference with the space you guys have compared to my set up.

I will say this....if you either of you canít get the fan to fit Iím fairly certain if you put it up on here theyíll sell within an hour or two probably close to or right at what you paid.

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Old 02-06-2019, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by vettemayhem View Post
I tried installing a D3 dual spal fan setup from ProSpeed in my 2006 base Z51 car which has a Dart 427 block and YSI billet and there was no room for the fan shroud because of the supercharger. I talked to Josh about it and he said I was the only one that had this problem. I asked my Speed Shop to try to fabricate to make it fit but they told me it was not possible. Josh would not take it back without a 40% restocking fee....not real happy about that since I am sure that I am not the only thick-headed person who has been led to believe that they fit like a glove with no mods. How did you get yours to fit?
I had Cordes Performance Racing do the install of it all. They did an awesome job and there's plenty of room in there.
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Old 02-11-2019, 04:47 AM
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With most of the supercharged cars they have you remove the shroud that brings cold air to the condenser/radiator to make room for the intercooler. Once that shroud is removed, hot air can be pulled back around to the front side of the radiator. I spent quite a bit of time and boxed in the shrouding so air could no longer be recycled from the engine side of the radiator. I found this to be the most effective solution to date for cooling issues. I had the full size Dewitts Rad, dual spal extreme fans, dual PWM controllers etc. Sealing off the front of the radiator to the front of the car made the biggest difference.

BTW the best fan IHMO is the stock fan with 2005 shroud if you can make it fit with Centri's. Otherwise the D3PE is the best fan option.

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Old 02-11-2019, 05:06 AM
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I really want to but also know that there is structural integrity involved up there. I'm thinking about cutting it, folding the aluminum and then rewelding it. There's also the very real possibility that I'll need to go to A2W anyway and I'd hate to hack it all up if that could prevent it. I've been looking into folks who have done so much as to cut off the front bumper support and welded on a tubular support and cut the foam to fit accordingly. I'm still looking for good options... but to stay on topic, the prospeed fans are a definite need to help pull good air in and I've also swapped the fog lights out for ducts (meant for brake cooling) that will route directly to the radiator to help some also.
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Just a few pics of my AW set up for my A&A. Way more air flow to radiator. Kind of tough to get a good picture that shows just how much better the air flow should be.

Still a work in progress, waiting for interchiller which should mount above intercooler . Intercooler core size 12' X 9.5" X 4.5" Using Z06 oil tank for water tank.


Core Size 12 X 9.5 X 4.5 Inlet 3" Outlet 4"

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To be more clear when I say keeping the shroud is key, I'm referring to the shroud in front of the radiator. Obviously it has to be modified but still does the job afterwards.
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:36 AM
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I live in south Mississippi and am running the stock 05 z51 cooling setup with A&A ti-trim (700ish hp), I dont see temps over 190į in stop and go traffic with ac on high.....and 220į beating the hell out of it in 95į+ temps.

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Old 02-11-2019, 02:01 PM
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I live in south Mississippi and am running the stock 05 z51 cooling setup with A&A ti-trim (700ish hp), I dont see temps over 190į in stop and go traffic with ac on high.....and 220į beating the hell out of it in 95į+ temps.
Iím in southern Mississippi as well.....what part are you in? PM if you donít want the specific location on the thread. Always looking for other boosted vettes locally to meet up with!!
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Iím in Jackson MS and about to add boost, does that count lol.
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Originally Posted by RPOWU8 View Post
Hi,

Just a few pics of my AW set up for my A&A. Way more air flow to radiator. Kind of tough to get a good picture that shows just how much better the air flow should be.

Still a work in progress, waiting for interchiller which should mount above intercooler . Intercooler core size 12' X 9.5" X 4.5" Using Z06 oil tank for water tank.


Core Size 12 X 9.5 X 4.5 Inlet 3" Outlet 4"

Looks really nice... What HP is this rated to? Looks smaller than some of the setup's I've seen. When you say interchiller, I assume you mean switched utilization of your A/C system to chill the water in the A2W system, similar to what they are doing with the new LT4 setups? Is this a unit that's made for our cars or did you have it customer speced/made?
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