Octane Booster for 93 Octane Tune?
10-03-2017, 11:29 PM
#1
Octane Booster for 93 Octane Tune?
My Diablotuner has a 91 and a 93 tune
but there isn't 93 octane where I live
If i had 2-4 gallons of 91 octane in my tank and added an octane booster
would this be sufficient enough to switch to a 93 tune?
What are your thoughts?
but there isn't 93 octane where I live
If i had 2-4 gallons of 91 octane in my tank and added an octane booster
would this be sufficient enough to switch to a 93 tune?
What are your thoughts?
Last edited by nick14003; 10-03-2017 at 11:30 PM.
10-03-2017, 11:45 PM
#2
Melting Slicks
Although some octane boosters do work, you are going to need a whole lot of it. Most octane boosters are only a couple of points per ounce per gallon. Some are just plain scams.
The thing that catches most people is that a point is not 91 then magically 92 octane. For example with say 2oz of Boostane you will get 4 points of octane in 1 gallon of fuel. 91 becomes 91.4.
You would be much better off just ordering a barrel of whatever fuel you would like, say 100 octane unleaded or MS109 and then having an appropriate professional tune performed with that fuel.
I doubt you are going to see much if any performance gain with a handheld tuner on 93 vs 91.
Do you have a map of what the difference is between the two? Im guessing the changes are very very minimal.
The thing that catches most people is that a point is not 91 then magically 92 octane. For example with say 2oz of Boostane you will get 4 points of octane in 1 gallon of fuel. 91 becomes 91.4.
You would be much better off just ordering a barrel of whatever fuel you would like, say 100 octane unleaded or MS109 and then having an appropriate professional tune performed with that fuel.
I doubt you are going to see much if any performance gain with a handheld tuner on 93 vs 91.
Do you have a map of what the difference is between the two? Im guessing the changes are very very minimal.
10-04-2017, 06:17 AM
#3
Although some octane boosters do work, you are going to need a whole lot of it. Most octane boosters are only a couple of points per ounce per gallon. Some are just plain scams.
The thing that catches most people is that a point is not 91 then magically 92 octane. For example with say 2oz of Boostane you will get 4 points of octane in 1 gallon of fuel. 91 becomes 91.4.
You would be much better off just ordering a barrel of whatever fuel you would like, say 100 octane unleaded or MS109 and then having an appropriate professional tune performed with that fuel.
I doubt you are going to see much if any performance gain with a handheld tuner on 93 vs 91.
Do you have a map of what the difference is between the two? Im guessing the changes are very very minimal.
The thing that catches most people is that a point is not 91 then magically 92 octane. For example with say 2oz of Boostane you will get 4 points of octane in 1 gallon of fuel. 91 becomes 91.4.
You would be much better off just ordering a barrel of whatever fuel you would like, say 100 octane unleaded or MS109 and then having an appropriate professional tune performed with that fuel.
I doubt you are going to see much if any performance gain with a handheld tuner on 93 vs 91.
Do you have a map of what the difference is between the two? Im guessing the changes are very very minimal.
10-04-2017, 07:37 AM
#4
Le Mans Master
You could load the 91 Octane Tune and then Data Log a WOT run to see if you are seeing any knock retard ... if not then load the 93 Octane Tune and log ..
Diablo has a free data log viewer that is easy to setup and read .., I have mine setup to display old fashion analog gauges , Tach, MPH , requested timing , actuall timing, knock retard , fuel trims etc
This setup makes it pretty easy to spot anomalies and at what RPM they are happening at. I had some knock retard going, I zoomed in on the RPM it was happening at and found it was during 1st to 2nd shift during a WOT run ... it need more fuel in open loop
Remember the ECM will pull timing if it hears knock so it's a pretty safe test to do but probably not going to net to much gain
I agree with the above post , using octane booster is hardly worth the effort if you are running a stock unmodified car
Dave
Diablo has a free data log viewer that is easy to setup and read .., I have mine setup to display old fashion analog gauges , Tach, MPH , requested timing , actuall timing, knock retard , fuel trims etc
This setup makes it pretty easy to spot anomalies and at what RPM they are happening at. I had some knock retard going, I zoomed in on the RPM it was happening at and found it was during 1st to 2nd shift during a WOT run ... it need more fuel in open loop
Remember the ECM will pull timing if it hears knock so it's a pretty safe test to do but probably not going to net to much gain
I agree with the above post , using octane booster is hardly worth the effort if you are running a stock unmodified car
Dave
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Mike@DiabloSport (10-04-2017)
10-04-2017, 11:01 AM
#5
Supporting Vendor
The 91 tune runs stock timing values for the most part. The 93 tunes have some timing added.
As mentioned, even good quality octane boosters don't really do too much.
When they say increase octane by x points, what they mean is it should go from say 91 octane, to 91.1 or 91.2 octane
As mentioned, even good quality octane boosters don't really do too much.
When they say increase octane by x points, what they mean is it should go from say 91 octane, to 91.1 or 91.2 octane
10-04-2017, 04:55 PM
#7
Supporting Vendor
right, but how much does it actually increase the octane rating?
Its not measurable to most, and as mentioned earlier, logging knock is really your only option to see if its working
Its not measurable to most, and as mentioned earlier, logging knock is really your only option to see if its working
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Chiselchst (10-04-2017)
10-09-2017, 11:40 AM
#8
Supporting Vendor
you'd want to use BOOSTane.. which actually does work.. can increase octane up to 100+ depending on your mixture rate...
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10-16-2017, 06:24 PM
#10
As long as it uses MMT, it's likely that they do work equally as well as another. Torco, BOOSTane, and Royal Purple all use MMT - probably others too, but those are the ones I know off the top of my head.
RP, for instance, says one 16 oz can will raise octane by 30 points - so, 91 to 94. BOOSTane says their 32 oz can will raise 91 to 100.
RP, for instance, says one 16 oz can will raise octane by 30 points - so, 91 to 94. BOOSTane says their 32 oz can will raise 91 to 100.
10-16-2017, 07:04 PM
#11
Melting Slicks
As long as it uses MMT, it's likely that they do work equally as well as another. Torco, BOOSTane, and Royal Purple all use MMT - probably others too, but those are the ones I know off the top of my head.
RP, for instance, says one 16 oz can will raise octane by 30 points - so, 91 to 94. BOOSTane says their 32 oz can will raise 91 to 100.
RP, for instance, says one 16 oz can will raise octane by 30 points - so, 91 to 94. BOOSTane says their 32 oz can will raise 91 to 100.
That would all depend on how much fuel you are adding the additive to. They only raise the fuel a few points per ounce.