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Old 07-11-2018, 09:39 AM
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I just got on hptuners site and i have no idea what to buy. It looks like its all new stuff that is not available yet? I'm trying to tune my 09 auto vette. Any direction would be appreciated. I will be adding an plx wide band also.

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I'd personally probably get one of the old "pro" interfaces that support external inputs if you can find one (may not be directly from them).

The new units don't support external sensors yet from what I understand.
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Thanks for the info. How are people tuning with the new units? No wideband would make it impossible?
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AEM has a wideband that plugs into the obd port and feeds data in over the can bus that “should” work but I haven’t personally tried it yet.
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I wonder if that is hp tuners thinking? I need Something like yesterday and fell dumb buying old technology when there’s something new out. New isn’t always best, but still!!
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I imagine they had a timeline for releasing the new units and went with it even though they weren't done with the external inputs interface.
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Tuning on a dyno you typically use the dyno wideband, so not a huge deal.

I wouldn't buy the old one, as the support is going away, and it doesn't support the new applications.
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Originally Posted by ruinms
I just got on hptuners site and i have no idea what to buy. It looks like its all new stuff that is not available yet? I'm trying to tune my 09 auto vette. Any direction would be appreciated. I will be adding an plx wide band also.
I have a problem on my '98 that my tuner is not able to diagnose without having data logs from drag runs. He suggested I get one of the "old" HP Pro units that provides one-button data logging. I like this feature since I am an old fart that is not very computer literate so I would never think of having a laptop in the car. I have scoured the internet and cannot find one of the old Pro units for sale that supports GM vehicles. I understand the "new" HP unit does not provide the stand-alone data logging yet and there is a "Pro" unit that will but is not released yet. If I am correct in all this- does anyone know when the "new" unit with the simple data logging like the "old" Pro unit will be released?

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There is only one old pro unit, so not sure why you are saying doesn't support GM vehicles, as they are all the same.

Still need a laptop or computer to setup the logging, it isn't just a plug in and hit record.
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There is only one old pro unit, so not sure why you are saying doesn't support GM vehicles, as they are all the same.

Still need a laptop or computer to setup the logging, it isn't just a plug in and hit record.
Understood on the laptop set up. My tuner would do that for me. With respect to the GM specific I was confused by the ones I saw for sale on the internet. I saw ones advertised "For Ford Vehicles" and "For Dodge Vehicles" but all the ones "For GM Vehicles" with "GM Credits" were no longer available. Obviously I don't understand. Please set me straight.

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They are all the same, just some come with different credits for tuning. For logging, it is all the same thing. Just means if you want to use it to tune, would have to buy some GM credits.
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Originally Posted by schpenxel
AEM has a wideband that plugs into the obd port and feeds data in over the can bus that “should” work but I haven’t personally tried it yet.
This does work as I have the new unit and bought the AEM wideband it is functioning properly.
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If you are going to calibrated under the 2015 line, You can buy an old PRO unit. Most come with a couple credits on it. The new 4.0x HPT software is based off the BETA 3.7 configurations. You can plug many widebands into the MPVI 1 unit directly. If you were going to tune 2015 and newer vehicles, and thinking of calibrating a wider range of vehicles ( Dodge, Ford, Audi, and Nissan, the MPVI 2 ( new units ) may have better options for you. Tuning looks easy, but it difficult. Just because you can calibrate the GM line, doesn't mean that knowledge transitions to other brand vehicles. Its an extreme leaner curve between manufacturers. Down side currently with the MPVI 2 is you cant calibrate WOT AFR the "normal way" right now.
If your calibrator doesn't use a wideband, change tuners.

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This does work as I have the new unit and bought the AEM wideband it is functioning properly.
Good to know. That's all I've used recently on the older interface, just hadn't ever tried it on one of the new ones
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Originally Posted by phils C5 vette
If you are going to calibrated under the 2015 line, You can buy an old PRO unit. Most come with a couple credits on it. The new 4.0x HPT software is based off the BETA 3.7 configurations. You can plug many widebands into the MPVI 1 unit directly. If you were going to tune 2015 and newer vehicles, and thinking of calibrating a wider range of vehicles ( Dodge, Ford, Audi, and Nissan, the MPVI 2 ( new units ) may have better options for you. Tuning looks easy, but it difficult. Just because you can calibrate the GM line, doesn't mean that knowledge transitions to other brand vehicles. Its an extreme leaner curve between manufacturers. Down side currently with the MPVI 2 is you cant calibrate WOT AFR the "normal way" right now.
If your calibrator doesn't use a wideband, change tuners.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by the new MPVI2 units "can't" calibrate WOT AFR the "normal way"? And exactly what is the normal way? So far I've only focused on logging and understand the data but if there is something I need to look out for when I migrate to making tuning changes I would like to know that now.
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Can’t connect a wideband the traditional 0-5V input way.
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Can’t connect a wideband the traditional 0-5V input way.
Duhh.... That makes sense, disregard previous question.

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Originally Posted by phils C5 vette
If you are going to calibrated under the 2015 line, You can buy an old PRO unit. Most come with a couple credits on it. The new 4.0x HPT software is based off the BETA 3.7 configurations. You can plug many widebands into the MPVI 1 unit directly. If you were going to tune 2015 and newer vehicles, and thinking of calibrating a wider range of vehicles ( Dodge, Ford, Audi, and Nissan, the MPVI 2 ( new units ) may have better options for you. Tuning looks easy, but it difficult. Just because you can calibrate the GM line, doesn't mean that knowledge transitions to other brand vehicles. Its an extreme leaner curve between manufacturers. Down side currently with the MPVI 2 is you cant calibrate WOT AFR the "normal way" right now.
If your calibrator doesn't use a wideband, change tuners.
I plan to do the tuning myself. That is the reason I'm asking these questions.
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I just got on hptuners site and i have no idea what to buy. It looks like its all new stuff that is not available yet? I'm trying to tune my 09 auto vette. Any direction would be appreciated. I will be adding an plx wide band also.
Hello, in most situations I would say if you can wait for the pro feature set to become available on the new MPVI 2, that is your best bet. You are even able to buy the MPVI 2 now and use with without wideband, and then just upgrade your interface once it becomes available. The Pro feature set is an add on to the interface and will not be a separate device.

If you are in a hurry and want to purchase an old MPVI pro you can do so but you might want to find one without credits. If you purchase one that is Ford specific the device will work fine but you will not be able to license a GM vehicle with Ford credits.

If you have any other questions please feel free to reach out to me on here or you can email us at support@hptuners.com
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Hello, in most situations I would say if you can wait for the pro feature set to become available on the new MPVI 2, that is your best bet. You are even able to buy the MPVI 2 now and use with without wideband, and then just upgrade your interface once it becomes available. The Pro feature set is an add on to the interface and will not be a separate device.

If you are in a hurry and want to purchase an old MPVI pro you can do so but you might want to find one without credits. If you purchase one that is Ford specific the device will work fine but you will not be able to license a GM vehicle with Ford credits.

If you have any other questions please feel free to reach out to me on here or you can email us at support@hptuners.com
Thanks for your post. I have sent you an email.
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