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Old 06-21-2007, 08:27 PM
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He guy's, I am getting ready to let MTI do a cam only swap and 3:90 gear change on my '05 mn6 coupe. They just did a stage I a few weeks ago, and my dyno numbers were 389 rwhp.
What is the best cam to go with? I am hoping to achieve 420-430 rwhp. I would like to have a noticable lope, but nothing too radical. I still want decent fuel mileage 25-30 mpg. I get over 30 now interstate.

What do you guy's recommend? MTI has a cam in stock and they are ready to do it. They will give the specs in a day or two........thanks for your help..................
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I'm mulling the same decision.
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Originally Posted by tnz5106
He guy's, I am getting ready to let MTI do a cam only swap and 3:90 gear change on my '05 mn6 coupe. They just did a stage I a few weeks ago, and my dyno numbers were 389 rwhp.
What is the best cam to go with? I am hoping to achieve 420-430 rwhp. I would like to have a noticable lope, but nothing too radical. I still want decent fuel mileage 25-30 mpg. I get over 30 now interstate.

What do you guy's recommend? MTI has a cam in stock and they are ready to do it. They will give the specs in a day or two........thanks for your help..................
Well, my car is in the local shop for a cam swap. A friend of mine and a forum member here went to the same shop installed the 228/232 575/588 and 113 lsa. His car idles real nice at 875rpm. Noticable lope, but nothing too radical. This is the same cam I am going with plus AFR dual springs and retainers, comp pushrods and underdrive pulley. The car should be ready by saturday. Will post dyno results before and after.

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Originally Posted by tnz5106
He guy's, I am getting ready to let MTI do a cam only swap and 3:90 gear change on my '05 mn6 coupe. They just did a stage I a few weeks ago, and my dyno numbers were 389 rwhp.
What is the best cam to go with? I am hoping to achieve 420-430 rwhp. I would like to have a noticable lope, but nothing too radical. I still want decent fuel mileage 25-30 mpg. I get over 30 now interstate.

What do you guy's recommend? MTI has a cam in stock and they are ready to do it. They will give the specs in a day or two........thanks for your help..................
I use MTI Stealth II, love it!
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I agree with Cameron on the MTI cam and specs. You are going in a great direction, you will love the combo. It will give you enough lope to sound and feel mean, but still have great off idle manners and driveability. Gas mileage wont really suffer much (except for the fact you will driving it harder because it is so much more fun ). I have 410s and a tune and only lost about .5 - 1 mpg overall. At 75mph, Im still only taching about 1850. Around town, being in the power band makes the engine more efficient so I actually picked up mileage a hair during local driving.

The only thing I strongly recommend is to at least add the CompCam 918 springs with hardened 7.400 pushrods, or a good set of dual springs as LOS ANGELES PI recommends.

I want the first ride Sunday, Cameron.....you promised....

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Do the dual springs.

There are many here on the forum who have had issues with single springs.
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What are we talking about as far as price for a mod like stated above
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Originally Posted by welcome2try
Well, my car is in the local shop for a cam swap. A friend of mine and a forum member here went to the same shop installed the 228/232 575/588 and 113 lsa. His car idles real nice at 875rpm. Noticable lope, but nothing too radical. This is the same cam I am going with plus AFR dual springs and retainers, comp pushrods and underdrive pulley. The car should be ready by saturday. Will post dyno results before and after.
I have the same cam with AFR 205 heads, ported throttle body, Kooks headers, xpipe, hi-flo cats, Corsa Sport and a Halltech and it dynoed 443hp and 407ft.lbs.
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I agree with Cameron on the MTI cam and specs. You are going in a great direction, you will love the combo. It will give you enough lope to sound and feel mean, but still have great off idle manners and driveability. Gas mileage wont really suffer much (except for the fact you will driving it harder because it is so much more fun ). I have 410s and a tune and only lost about .5 - 1 mpg overall. At 75mph, Im still only taching about 1850. Around town, being in the power band makes the engine more efficient so I actually picked up mileage a hair during local driving.

The only thing I strongly recommend is to at least add the CompCam 918 springs with hardened 7.400 pushrods, or a good set of dual springs as LOS ANGELES PI recommends.

I want the first ride Sunday, Cameron.....you promised....
Thanks guy's, that sounds like the cam for me. I am hoping to be north of 420rwhp with stock heads. Sounds like I will..............
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I highly recommend the MTI X1 cam. 230 228.

You will make the same amount of power, but it will be more useable on the street. It is a reverse split cam and will make more power lower in the RPM band. I ran 11.3 with it (cam only) in my C5. It will alos lope a bit harder
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whatever you do, stay away from crazy big cams

great power can be had with modest cams
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how much does the average cam + required parts + install run? 1k?
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Originally Posted by Danny318
how much does the average cam + required parts + install run? 1k?
comp cam + comp springs + install and tune about 1300 for me. i have heard as high as 2k
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are springs and pushrods and stuff really neccesary for a mildish cam?
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Originally Posted by Danny318
are springs and pushrods and stuff really neccesary for a mildish cam?
springs are. pushrods arent even on a not so mild cam
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why dont the stock springs work if it is under .600 lift?
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Originally Posted by Danny318
why dont the stock springs work if it is under .600 lift?
they are not very robust. the stock cam only has .525 lift. not sure what their coil bind figure is but many have said they cant handel much more lift. you're going to get valve float and maybe worse, breakage

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Old 06-22-2007, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny318
why dont the stock springs work if it is under .600 lift?
Its for peace of mind. You really should have dual springs.
You don't have to buy the $500 dual springs, go for the TSP or Patriot dual springs for $250. They are just as good, I've had them on every car I own and never had one fail. As far as the push rods...Waste of money. I have never seen one bend on a C5 or C6, plus a bend push rod is cheaper then a bent valve...
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hmm okay, 250 isnt bad + 450 for the cam, + whatever for install
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Originally Posted by Ferguson
I have the same cam with AFR 205 heads, ported throttle body, Kooks headers, xpipe, hi-flo cats, Corsa Sport and a Halltech and it dynoed 443hp and 407ft.lbs.
Sounds like my old car


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