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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 03:46 PM
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C'mon Tommy, I did this run with a broken tranny...going faster is getting too expensive for me!

I'll settle for #5 at this point.
10.8 with super slow shifts...I see a 10.6 in that thing if you can learn to shift like a man and take off the high heels.


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10.8 with super slow shifts...I see a 10.6 in that thing if you can learn to shift like a man and take off the high heels.


Oh ho ho...dem's figtin words there friend....ye who hasn't broken his rear yet...be careful..comes around goes around!
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 03:50 PM
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Oh ho ho...dem's figtin words there friend....ye who hasn't broken his rear yet...be careful..comes around goes around!
Ya ya, I know--I'm waiting for the case to split. It's only a matter of time and when it does, hopefully it doesn't take the tranny with it. I'm torn between beefier internals and a 3.90/4.10 gear right now, or wait till it breaks to replace. I know the core has value, but I'm not really in the mood to change the gears in it just yet. I want the top spot how the car sits right now.

Currently I'm behind a couple heads/cam/gear cars with hired jockeys and an E85/unknown mods C6.

I've seen a good amount of your logs--I know it and you know it--you can shift faster than that and you should be well into the 10.7s if not better.
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Ya ya, I know--I'm waiting for the case to split. It's only a matter of time and when it does, hopefully it doesn't take the tranny with it. I'm torn between beefier internals and a 3.90/4.10 gear right now, or wait till it breaks to replace. I know the core has value, but I'm not really in the mood to change the gears in it just yet. I want the top spot how the car sits right now.

Currently I'm behind a couple heads/cam/gear cars with hired jockeys and an E85/unknown mods C6.

I've seen a good amount of your logs--I know it and you know it--you can shift faster than that and you should be well into the 10.7s if not better.
Can't shift too fast with a broken tranny my friend. You can't hear the grinding on the video but I can hear in it in my head as i type this. And my convertible is in the darn shop while it's sunny at 75 degrees all week.

I'm not planning to beat that record...I surely cannot have many more 1.44's in my rear and these thousands are starting to add up! There is no way with my heavy convertible and smallish cam I can get to the top spot so I'm cool where I am.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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Ya, I just meant that assuming you had a working tranny, you were surely in the 10.7 or better realm.

Repairs are no fun for sure, and considering I haven't had to taste that just yet, I may be partially biased.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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C'mon Tommy, I did this run with a broken tranny...going faster is getting too expensive for me!

I'll settle for #5 at this point.

Ah Joe for all the runs you have on that car consider the cost per run and then add back the "FUN & ENJOYMENT" factor
or you should have taken my route to go the fastest for the cheapest

I see the student is getting a bit uppity...... Justin quit while you are ahead No body knows what evil lurks in the rear differential of a M6 Driver looking for a 1.4 sixty foot

Just ask Joe ....... and he probably has the record for the most runs on a stock clutch assembly, stock rear & tranny


............. now back to the accounting coal mines for me....
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 03:59 PM
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Ah Joe for all the runs you have on that car consider the cost per run and then add back the "FUN & ENJOYMENT" factor
or you should have taken my route to go the fastest for the cheapest

I see the student is getting a bit uppity...... Justin quit while you are ahead No body knows what evil lurks in the rear differential of a M6 Driver looking for a 1.4 sixty foot

Just ask Joe ....... and he probably has the record for the most runs on a stock clutch assembly, stock rear & tranny


............. now back to the accounting coal mines for me....
Haha, no uppity on this side of the screen--I was just stirring the pot for Mr. G, trying to get a rise out of him

I needed a break from these partnership returns
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Well us three accountants need to get back to work! Gotta pay for these diff's and trannies somehow!!

Tommy I do think I must have the record for launches on a stock clutch...466 and 62,000 miles. The guys asked me if I wanted to replace it while the tranny is out...I asked if they were kidding??? Roger said yes he was.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 04:10 PM
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Well us three accountants need to get back to work! Gotta pay for these diff's and trannies somehow!!
Ain't that the truth
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Well us three accountants need to get back to work! Gotta pay for these diff's and trannies somehow!!

Tommy I do think I must have the record for launches on a stock clutch...466 and 62,000 miles. The guys asked me if I wanted to replace it while the tranny is out...I asked if they were kidding??? Roger said yes he was.

Joe, that has to be some sort of record

I know that I have a stack of time slips about an inch thick ....... so yours should be a quite a bit thicker.

And Justin just stirring the pot . He has been very fortunate so far and I hope him all the best in his quest for a 1.4 sixty foot...... you know what we all say if you "want to play you have to be able to pay"

This is the only hobby you can do everything right and stuff still happens

Actually, both of you have been very lucky with your rears. My son as approximately 90K on his 07 M6 drives it like an old lady and it is getting a bit noisy
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^^^I have them all entered into a spreadsheet...but I do have the originals. I'll take a pic of them...it's a huge heap! A binder clip stopped working years ago, now it's rubber bands 2 stacks probably 4" thick each.
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^^^I have them all entered into a spreadsheet...but I do have the originals. I'll take a pic of them...it's a huge heap! A binder clip stopped working years ago, now it's rubber bands 2 stacks probably 4" thick each.

Love it
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New PB 11.94 with 1.745 60 ft

Do my times seem right with the 60ft? I thought I would be in the 11.70's or 11.80's with this 60ft? Jermey from HP Sales Tunes the car with 20* WOT. Does this seem right? Joe G or anyone else like to crtique my slip?The other car was a 08 GT500 with a pully and intake with DR making 550 hp, he did 11.687 with about the same 60ft

Also during the 5000 launch the clutch would not fully come up. I did the ranger method. Is their a diffrent type of fluid to use? Why would'nt the clutch fully come up? I know the LS7 clutch has its limits though?

4. Year Corvette-2008 Base
5. Type of Trans-Stock 6 speed manual
6. Type of Suspension-Bilsteins
7. Stock Performance options 3.90's
8. Tires utilized-MT 275/40/17 @ 23 psi
9. Modifications if any-k/n air intake LG 1 3/4 headers SLP axel back
10. Dyno numbers if you have them-419 rwhp 430 TQ
11. As much info you may want to add about the run, launch techniques, tire air pressure & etc- I am still learning, now knowing to slip the clutch Was launching like 5000 rpms.12. Typed in the post (as some time slips get deleted & etc after being posted)
___ Name of the Track-Palm Beach International Speedway, FL
___ Date of the pass & weather conditions-2/25/2012-73*, unsure of D/A
___ 60'.............1.745
___ 330'...........5.054
___ 660'...........7.755
___ 660’ mph....92.78
___ 1000'.........10.044
___ 1320'.........11.942
___ 1320’ mph…119.44

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Nice pass for what you have.

You could still pick up a tenth or two just by propping your shroud, because your mph is suffering. For $2-3 and 5 minutes to install, it's the biggest bang for the buck.
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Nice pass for what you have.

You could still pick up a tenth or two just by propping your shroud, because your mph is suffering. For $2-3 and 5 minutes to install, it's the biggest bang for the buck.
Thanks Actually I cut a lil square in it and have a mesh over it so water doesn't get thru.
Maybe I just need more seat time?

Also I would like to add the there was a run when we were neck to neck and the driver came over to me and said man you can really bang out those gears, it was funny said yea it was my first 1.7 60ft hahahah. That was a 1.75 60ft @ 11.95 119

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New PB 11.94 with 1.745 60 ft

Do my times seem right with the 60ft? I thought I would be in the 11.70's or 11.80's with this 60ft? Jermey from HP Sales Tunes the car with 20* WOT. Does this seem right? Joe G or anyone else like to crtique my slip?The other car was a 08 GT500 with a pully and intake with DR making 550 hp, he did 11.687 with about the same 60ft

Also during the 5000 launch the clutch would not fully come up. I did the ranger method. Is their a diffrent type of fluid to use? Why would'nt the clutch fully come up? I know the LS7 clutch has its limits though?
Slip looks good, just keep at it and you'll keep pulling those times down. Pretty close to my bolt on times as I recall. I've since learned how to launch a lot better, I'll be happy to describe what I do in person or listen to my videos.

You need to remove your pedal spring. Here's a thread that shows how or I'll do it for you on 3/17.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ing-in-c6.html

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Slip looks good, just keep at it and you'll keep pulling those times down. Pretty close to my bolt on times as I recall. I've since learned how to launch a lot better, I'll be happy to describe what I do in person or listen to my videos.

You need to remove your pedal spring. Here's a thread that shows how or I'll do it for you on 3/17.

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Thanks Joe I am glad you chimmed in. Do I have much more left in it now or do I need a retune? Does everything look normal as far as mph and et for what I have?
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Thanks Joe I am glad you chimmed in. Do I have much more left in it now or do I need a retune? Does everything look normal as far as mph and et for what I have?
If your car was tuned with the headers on, then no you don't need a retune.

DA was around 1100 so I think the mph is about on for that DA. I do agree with Tom that if you prop the shroud you'll get a little more. A little hole isn't going to give you much cool air - by the time it does, the 1/4 mile is over.

What you need is seat time and practice on the launch. With 3.90's and some experience you will get that 60 down to 1.6 and maybe even 1.5 and that'll reduce your ET's a lot and raise your MPH.
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If your car was tuned with the headers on, then no you don't need a retune.

DA was around 1100 so I think the mph is about on for that DA. I do agree with Tom that if you prop the shroud you'll get a little more. A little hole isn't going to give you much cool air - by the time it does, the 1/4 mile is over.

What you need is seat time and practice on the launch. With 3.90's and some experience you will get that 60 down to 1.6 and maybe even 1.5 and that'll reduce your ET's a lot and raise your MPH.
Thanks alot Joe I appreciate all your input and advice. You have really set the stage for us manual drivers to follow.I look forward in meeting you my friend.
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Thanks alot Joe I appreciate all your input and advice. You have really set the stage for us manual drivers to follow.I look forward in meeting you my friend.
I appreciate your kind words!

I'm happy to share what I've learned from this forum and on the strip. I'm looking forward to meeting you too.

The best advice I can give you from afar is to listen to videos of good drivers...with a ls2 or ls3 the goal is to keep the rpm's above 4000 throughout the launch process. If you bog it's a 1.8 60 foot. That requires judicial slippage of the clutch..but it'll take it. And as you are letting the clutch out you should be pushing the gas down. My best launches are at 100% throttle before the car moves. I only do that when I'm going for my best times, as it's hard on the parts.
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