dmaxcamss

I didn't see the name Nick anywhere on ARH's website.

hognutz

There are many players in the header market. If you want to go cheap just for the sake of being able to say you have long tube headers then this product is not for you. If you want the best of the best for your car then do yourself a favor and give these guys a shout. Contact info is American Racing headers or give Nick a call at 631-608-1986. Believe me, you'll be happy you did. Like anything else, you get what you pay for.

from the testimonials page

dmaxcamss

I sent AR Headers a PM, but hasn't replied.

AR Headers

dmax, Your PM was answered.

Nick

dmaxcamss

Replied.

0Carmen@TheVetteDoctors

American made nothing comes from china.
Service second to none........

Bad06vette

My kooks headers fit great... slid right in. Very easy install for the actual header portion.

dmaxcamss

I contacted Nick and referred me to a local vendor. I had preferred to do business with him since you guys recommended him so much, but he doesn't seem like he wants my business. I sent him another PM, but he didn't reply.

I went ahead and PMed the local vendor and he too didn't reply. Looks like I'll be ordering with someone else.

Bad06vette

dmax check your PMs!

dmaxcamss

I got an email from that local sponsor I mentioned earlier. If things don't work out, I have someone else in mind.

Tony B4

Kooks.

glennhl

Personally I would never choose a performance mod based on a vote. Everyone will vote on the ones they bought. This is what I wanted:

1) Longest primary tubes
2) 1 3/4" primary tube diameter
3) 300 series stainless steel
4) Merge collector

All that adds up to LG Pro Long Tubes. The Kooks and ARH have shorter primary tubes and make good peak power, but the LG's do better for area under the curve. I picked up 26 rwhp (without a tune), but what was much more impressive is I picked up 39 rwtq. If I had put price as one of the requirements I probably would have bought the Kooks or ARH's.

saplumr

I'm satisfied with my KOOKS but I may try LG next just to see the diff.

Bad06vette

I wouldn't waste the money looking to see a difference... you might end up even losing power.

kutlow

with all of this debate why hasnt one vendor or another tried LG, KOOKS AND ARH one after another on the same car and post the dyno graphs? This should be done with a bone stock vette and then a modded one. I guess it is too hard.

glennhl

I really doubt that. Spinmonster found that the LG's were better:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=2039326

From Spinmonster:
Oringinally Kooks didnt have a very good merge collector. I had always known it would come down to those two brands. American racing headers was born out of Kooks and I had believed to that point used the same design with a disgruntled ex-employee from Kooks. At the point I bought my second set of headers I stayed with kooks simply out of brand loyalty.

I was talked into LG headers with a deal that If I didnt like them or they didnt perform as expected, I could take them off and put my kooks back on. Since there wasnt anything at risk money-wise, and the labor was free with me doing the install and tune, I tried them and liked what the low end TQ did for my L92 head combo. I didnt switch back because the gains were definitly there. I have driven Kooks headers cars since and they make power too. Kooks with the new race merge collector is a good product. I had great success with both companies feedback and communication so I have no complaints there.

In the end the car you have is a collection of parts that work as a whole. You must choose your application and buy accordingly. My time with LG is such that I will stay with them for my next car if I get another vette. I also recomend them to others as the longer primaries make low end power that I noted in my own build and the longer primaries also should make that power by the math. Its a race proven product that is used in a race that closely mimmics what you would have on the street. Drag racing is a bit of a dichotomy in that the launch power and midband of the LG's helps while the few HP you may make on top is always in the powerband in the 1320 with the kooks. Persoanlly I have always been of the mentaility that I would trade 3 at peak for 3 in the midband. If there was 20 in the midband, it would be a no-brainer.

Mr.Big

L.G.M. by far imho... I have Dynatech's on my car but the LG LT's weren't out when I built my car... If you search back through all of the comparisons LG's win EVERY time (rwhp&rwtq under the curve)... once again I don't have them, but I would, if I did it over again now...

Bad06vette

Well, I doubt that you would lose power too. I was just making the point that.. although you might gain some or lose some in certain areas... is spending another 1.5-1.8k on headers worth it just to see if you gain a little on another set?

3 Z06ZR1

if your wanting to save with no comprising Just get the Kook's coated 1 3/4 from Maryland speed.

3 Z06ZR1

Yeah right No really your wrong when they don't compare Lg's 1 3/4 to Kook's 1 3/4
Anywhere I've seen on here, they compare 1 3/4 to 1 7/8
well the larger tubes have less low tq than the 1 3/4.
Plus I have seen other comparo's where a guy was stronger on the same dyno with ARH vs LG's. Kook's is on the fastest bolt-on c-6. And I went from 378 bone stock
to 433 with 430 rwtq. There is not any header going to better for me thats sure.On the same dyno and 423 on a Mustang dyno. With a few bolt-on's. I am more than happy to dyno with someone who has LG's, or run one at track. Meet at Wong's in Vancouver when ever
can't beat Kook's or ARH for wide open power. That low 2000 tq does nothing for me, If I'm at 2000 I simply drop a gear.I rather have it above 3500 where you use it when needed racing. Notice the flat tq curve and 375 rwtq at 3500 climbs right to 430 car runs like a raped ape