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Old 03-15-2009, 06:41 PM
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Anyone know what length pushrods I need for the LS3? 7.4? or 7.425?

I'm been bored today, so I've been looking at a couple cams. I've also read about the LS3 TC failures... Looks like I will be upgrading the TC...
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Depends on your head size. I think the factory ones are 7.4. You may also want to get a push rod checker from comp cams for about 16 bucks. Could save you some heartache.
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If you go with a cam 224 intake or larger, the base circle is .060" smaller and hence the pushords would optimumly need to be .030" longer. If heads are milled .030", the pushrod length goes back to the stock 7.4" but you are asking solely about a cam swap so its 7.430" or the popular stocked size of 7.425" is fine to maintain the stock preload on the lifters.
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
If you go with a cam 224 intake or larger, the base circle is .060" smaller and hence the pushords would optimumly need to be .030" longer. If heads are milled .030", the pushrod length goes back to the stock 7.4" but you are asking solely about a cam swap so its 7.430" or the popular stocked size of 7.425" is fine to maintain the stock preload on the lifters.
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
If you go with a cam 224 intake or larger, the base circle is .060" smaller and hence the pushords would optimumly need to be .030" longer. If heads are milled .030", the pushrod length goes back to the stock 7.4" but you are asking solely about a cam swap so its 7.430" or the popular stocked size of 7.425" is fine to maintain the stock preload on the lifters.
Spin, my cam is a 231/243 .617/.623 on Comp LSL lobes and I measured during my rebuild and came to a pushrod length of 7.400 with .100 worth of lifter preload with my adjustable pushrod from Comp. Zero lash was right at 7.300 on both intake and exhaust. Yes, the procedure of measuring was performed correctly. Any ideas regarding this discrepancy versus your math?

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It's always best to measure. But we primarily use 7.400's and they work just fine.
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What would happen if a longer than needed pushrod were used? If the cam manufacturer wanted .020 preload and a longer rod was used to bring the preload up to .100, would there be any kind of problem?
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Originally Posted by 1.8t
Spin, my cam is a 231/243 .617/.623 on Comp LSL lobes and I measured during my rebuild and came to a pushrod length of 7.400 with .100 worth of lifter preload with my adjustable pushrod from Comp. Zero lash was right at 7.300 on both intake and exhaust. Yes, the procedure of measuring was performed correctly. Any ideas regarding this discrepancy versus your math?

Are your heads stock or milled? Block stock or decked?
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Heads were milled 5 thou and the block is stock
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what cams are ya contemplating between and who's gonna do the install?
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Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
what cams are ya contemplating between and who's gonna do the install?
I'll probably go with one of the new comp cams that was designed for the rectangular port. I want one that is well matched for the new Fast 102mm manifold.

Speedtek has done all my work in the past and I've never had any problems. I would have Josh install it, but he charges more than Speedtek last I checked....

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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
If you go with a cam 224 intake or larger, the base circle is .060" smaller and hence the pushords would optimumly need to be .030" longer. If heads are milled .030", the pushrod length goes back to the stock 7.4" but you are asking solely about a cam swap so its 7.430" or the popular stocked size of 7.425" is fine to maintain the stock preload on the lifters.
Spin is spot on for most head cams swaps. We typically use 7.425" chrome-moly tapered push rods. If you have doubts you can always double check with a push rod length checker to insure precision.

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Originally Posted by xstang
I'll probably go with one of the new comp cams that was designed for the rectangular port. I want one that is well matched for the new Fast 102mm manifold.

Speedtek has done all my work in the past and I've never had any problems. I would have Josh install it, but he charges more than Speedtek last I checked....
How much duration you lookin at? Joshua just got done tuning mine today, he was impressed at how hard my custom grind pulled for being so small(218/230)...hoping it will be enough for a 10.99
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Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
How much duration you lookin at? Joshua just got done tuning mine today, he was impressed at how hard my custom grind pulled for being so small(218/230)...hoping it will be enough for a 10.99
I was looking at the 228/240......
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Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
How much duration you lookin at? Joshua just got done tuning mine today, he was impressed at how hard my custom grind pulled for being so small(218/230)...hoping it will be enough for a 10.99
Your car really moves... I don't think it would take much to get you into the 10s.... Does it feel considerably stronger than the Stealth cam you were running?

I ran a 215/232 117 LSA for a long time on my LS2 and loved it!

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Originally Posted by xstang
Your call really moves... I don't think it would take much to get you into the 10s.... Does it feel considerably stronger than the Stealth cam you were running?

I ran a 215/232 117 LSA for a long time on my LS2 and loved it!
It does, because of the better dcr and the smaller intake duration keeps port velocity up w/ the larger intake runners of the ported heads...it put down 25more rwhp and 17more rwtq(part of the gain has to be attributed to the udp tho) it gained from 3000rpm up and the power curve is so flat...it holds 350ftlbs to 6k and from there to 6800 the hp is pretty much flat...made some shake down runs at kennedale last night and it ran a 7.3@96 (1.69) 75* temp, weird thing is I think my et streets are spinning on the rims as I can hear noise from rear only under full throttle on good surface, need to mark them and find out...

won't that cam require fly cutting?
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Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
It does, because of the better dcr and the smaller intake duration keeps port velocity up w/ the larger intake runners of the ported heads...it put down 25more rwhp and 17more rwtq(part of the gain has to be attributed to the udp tho) it gained from 3000rpm up and the power curve is so flat...it holds 350ftlbs to 6k and from there to 6800 the hp is pretty much flat...made some shake down runs at kennedale last night and it ran a 7.3@96 (1.69) 75* temp, weird thing is I think my et streets are spinning on the rims as I can hear noise from rear only under full throttle on good surface, need to mark them and find out...

won't that cam require fly cutting?
7.3s You are moving!!!!

I can't wait to see what my setup will do with the restall, cam and Fast 102...

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Rick, what cam specs did you finally decide on?
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Rick, what cam specs did you finally decide on?
Cartek 3X
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Do you know the SPECS?


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