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Old 05-29-2010, 02:04 PM
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Default Has anyone done the AC evaporator core coating DIY to fix the musty AC smell?

I wanted to see if anyone has done this themselves? The coating looks to be $40-50. I just got the afterblow feature turned on but I am not sure if that will fully fix the problem. The dealer wants about $120.00 to do this. If it is easy I would rather do it myself. The TSB I am refering to is below. Let me know. Thanks!

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#99-01-39-004C: Air Conditioning Odor (Install Evaporator Core Dryer Kit and Apply Cooling Coil Coating) - (Jun 12, 2009)

Subject: Air Conditioning Odor (Install Evaporator Core Dryer Kit and Apply Cooling Coil Coating)

Models: 1993-2010 GM Passenger Cars and Trucks (Including Saturn)
2010 and Prior HUMMER H2, H3
All Equipped with Air Conditioning

This bulletin is being revised to add the 2009 and 2010 model years. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 99-01-39-004B (Section 01 -- HVAC).
Condition

Some customers may comment about musty odors emitted from the Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning (HVAC) system at vehicle start-up in hot, humid conditions.
Cause

This condition may be caused by condensate build-up on the evaporator core, which does not evaporate by itself in high humidity conditions. The odor may be the result of microbial growth on the evaporator core. When the blower motor fan is turned on, the microbial growth may release an unpleasant musty odor into the passenger compartment.

There are several other possible sources of a musty odor in a vehicle. A common source is a water leak into the interior of the vehicle or foreign material in the HVAC air distribution system. Follow the procedures in SI for identifying and correcting water leaks and air inlet inspection.

The procedure contained in this bulletin is only applicable if the odor source has been determined to be microbial growth on the evaporator core inside the HVAC module.
Correction

Many vehicles currently incorporate an afterblow function within the HVAC control module software. The afterblow feature, when enabled, employs the HVAC blower fan to dry the evaporator after vehicle shut down and this function will inhibit microbial growth. Technicians are to confirm that the customer concern is evaporator core odor and that the vehicle has the imbedded afterblow feature, as defined in the SI document for that specific vehicle model, model year and specific HVAC option. Refer to SI for enabling the afterblow function. Vehicles being delivered in areas prone to high humidity conditions may benefit from having the afterblow enabled calibration installed prior to any customer comment.

Important: If the vehicle is not factory equipped with the imbedded afterblow enable feature, it may be added with the Electronic Evaporator Dryer Module Kit (P/N 12497910 or AC Delco 15-5876).

Important: When installing the Electronic Evaporator Dryer Module, you MUST use the included electrical splice connectors to ensure a proper splice. Complete detailed installation instructions and self testing procedures are supplied with the kit. If necessary, the Electronic Evaporator Dryer Module may be installed underhood if it is protected from extreme heat and water splash areas.

To immediately remove the evaporator core odor on all suspect vehicles, it is necessary to eliminate the microbial growth and prevent its re-occurrence. To accomplish this, perform the following procedure:

Vehicle and Applicator Tool Preparation

1. The evaporator core must be dry . This may be accomplished by disabling the compressor and running the blower fan on the recirc heat setting for an extended period of time.

Note: Compressor engagement will cause the evaporator core to remain wet and will prevent full adherence of the Coiling Coil Coating to the evaporator core surfaces.
2. Verify that the air conditioning drain hose is not clogged and place a drain pan beneath the vehicle.
3. Place a protective cover over the carpet below the evaporator core.
4. Remove the cabin air filter, if equipped, and cover the opening prior to applying the Cooling Coil Coating, as the product may clog the filter. If the cabin air filter appears to have little or no remaining life, suggest a replacement to your customer.
5. If the HVAC module has a blower motor cooling tube, be careful NOT TO SPRAY THE COOLING COIL COATING INTO THE BLOWER MOTOR COOLING TUBE .
6. Attach the Flexible Applicator Pressure Spray Tool (J-43810-20A) to a compressed air line operating at 586 kPa (85 psi) to 793 kPa (115 psi).
7. Shake the bottle of Cooling Coil Coating well. Screw the bottle onto the cap on the applicator tool's pick-up tube.

Note: The pick-up tube is designed for 120 ml (4 oz) and 240 ml (8 oz) bottles and should coil slightly in the bottom of a 120 ml (4 oz) bottle.
8. Use one of the following three methods to apply the Cooling Coil Coating.

Important: If the Pressure Applicator Spray Tool (J-43810-20A) is not available, the Cooling Coil Coating is also available in an aerosol can (P/N 12377951 (in Canada, 10953503)).
Application Through Blower Motor Control Module Opening
• Remove the blower motor control module (blower motor resistor). Refer to the applicable procedure in SI.
• Clean any debris or foreign material from inside the HVAC module and on the evaporator core surface.
• Apply the Cooling Coil Coating directly to the evaporator core through the blower motor blower motor control module (blower motor resistor) opening.
• Use the flexible wand to direct the Cooling Coil Coating over the entire evaporator core and surrounding gasket surfaces.
• When the application is complete, install the blower motor blower motor control module (blower motor control module).
Application Through Blower Motor Opening
• Remove the blower motor. Refer to the applicable blower motor removal procedure in SI.
• Clean any debris or foreign material from inside the HVAC module and on the evaporator core surface.
• Apply the Cooling Coil Coating directly to the evaporator core through the blower motor opening.
• Use the flexible wand to direct the Cooling Coil Coating over the entire evaporator core and surrounding gasket surfaces.
• When the application is complete, install the blower motor.
Application Through a Hole in the HVAC Module
• If neither of the two previous application methods are available, it may be necessary to drill a hole in the HVAC module.
• Locate an area of the HVAC module between the blower motor and the evaporator core. Drill a 10 mm (3/8 in) hole in the HVAC module. Use caution to keep the drill clear of the evaporator core and the blower motor fan.
• With the air distribution vents closed and the blower motor fan speed on HIGH, insert the applicator tool into the hole and spray the Cooling Coil Coating into the airstream toward the evaporator core.
• Use a GM approved RTV sealant to plug the hole in the HVAC module.
9. After the Cooling Coil Coating application is complete, start and run the vehicle for approximately 10 minutes, with the compressor disabled, HVAC mode set to Recirculate/Max, heat set to full warm, blower motor fan speed on high, and one window open approximately 12 mm (1/2 in). This cures the Cooling Coil Coating onto the evaporator core surface.
10. While the engine is running, rinse the applicator tool with warm water to prolong the life of the tool. Be sure to spray warm water through the nozzle to rinse out any residual Cooling Coil Coating still in the capillary pick up tube, otherwise it will dry and clog the applicator tool. Also remove the small green valve from the bottle cap and rinse it thoroughly while rolling it between two fingers and then reinstall it. If this valve is clogged , the Cooling Coil Coating will not flow through the applicator tool.
11. Shut off the engine and enable the compressor again.
12. Verify proper HVAC system operation.
13. Remove the protective cover from inside the vehicle.
14. Remove the drain pan from underneath the vehicle.
15. Reinstall the cabin air filter if necessary.

Parts Information

Important: The Cooling Coil Coating listed below is the only GM approved product for use under warranty as an evaporator core disinfectant and for the long term control of evaporator core microbial growth.

Part Description


GM Part Number


SPX Kent-Moore Part Number

Cooling Coil Coating (CCC) Kit (with flexible applicator tool and 1 bottle of Cooling Coil Coating)


12346391


J-43810-A

Cooling Coil Coating Flexible Applicator Tool only


N/A


J-43810-20A

Refill for Cooling Coil Coating Applicator Kit (2 x 120 ml (4 oz) Bottles of CCC)


12346390

(N/A in Canada, use SPX Kent-Moore J-43810-4)


J-43810-4

Refill for Cooling Coil Coating Applicator Kit (1 x 120 ml (4 oz) Bottle of CCC)


N/A


J-43810-30

Cooling Coil Coating (1 x 180 ml (6 oz) Aerosol Can of CCC)


12377951 (In Canada use 10953503)


N/A

Electronic Evaporator Dryer Module Kit (one per vehicle)


12497910 (AC Delco 15-5876)


N/A
Warranty Information

For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation


Description


Labor Time

D3316*


Apply Cooling Coil Coating and Install Electronic Evaporator Dryer Kit


0.8 hr

*This is a unique labor operation for bulletin use only. It will not be published in the Labor Time Guide.
Old 05-29-2010, 03:07 PM
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when my car was under warranty is was meaning to go and have this done, but i got a no-notice deployment, and now its expired.

but when they do my recall ill ask about this and see how much,, maybe i can get it done for free. who knows
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When I had this same odor. I changed my cabin filter($13.00) and sprayed Lysol through the ducts and it solved the problem for about six months.
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Originally Posted by theofel
When I had this same odor. I changed my cabin filter($13.00) and sprayed Lysol through the ducts and it solved the problem for about six months.
I did the same thing, but used a 20% bleach solution. Worked just fine. Try this first to save a lot of time and money!
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$120 isn't that bad to do that job. If the product costs $50 that leaves about an hour's labor to do the job ($70/hr). You also get a 12 month/12K warranty if they do the job.

It sounds like this is some sort of metal coating that mold doesn't like to grow on. Maybe some sort of copper solution?

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Originally Posted by carpe dm
I did the same thing, but used a 20% bleach solution. Worked just fine. Try this first to save a lot of time and money!
I have used bleach on other cars but have always been leary of it. It can leave its own bad smell, is poisonous, and could have a caustic effect on the metal of the evaporator. Did you ever see the corrosion it causes in the bleach dispenser area of a clothes washer?

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Default great job

This is a great right up. I took it to the dealer and he said to look at the cabin filter. Sure enough it was as ugly as sin. Thinking that was the only problem I changed the filter right away. The smell has been reduced but not eliminated.

Does anyone have pictures of the step by step process to do this job?

Great write up!!
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Originally Posted by drew47000000
This is a great right up. I took it to the dealer and he said to look at the cabin filter. Sure enough it was as ugly as sin. Thinking that was the only problem I changed the filter right away. The smell has been reduced but not eliminated.

Does anyone have pictures of the step by step process to do this job?

Great write up!!
That is kind of what I was trying to get as well. It looks from the procedure above it could either be very easy or a huge pain in the butt. I think the amount of stink depends on where you live as more humid areas are going to produce a lot more condensation on this core.

Steve

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