C6nexttime

Any updates????

Brian4321

What he said.

sthornburg

I should have the final numbers in a few days. We had a few hick-ups with one of the parts that set us back. Tuning is underway and Anthony has started to add the meth.

As soon as I have the numbers I'll post the results.

Thanks for the interest & stay tuned.......

Brian4321

Care to mention of the hick-ups? Only reason I ask is to be informed incase it was a head issue or anything as I have gone ahead and ordered my whole setup (including the TW220 heads).

SpinMonster

I think you covered it all already Leon.

Your current cam is a great power maker and if you like the way it runs, you will see right around 500rwhp. Keep in mind that 4.10's will lower the dyno reading on a dynojet by about 10-12rwhp.

I would swap heads first and see where you are at. The driveability of the existing cam will only improve if you bump compression.

Are you located near me? Colorado Springs.

C6nexttime

Lg told me that a g6x3 needs flycut with trick flows. I think the guy i talked to didn't know what he was talking about. The tfs heads allow for the most ptv of any head so a g6x3 should fit without any issues. I know that people running tfs milled to 59cc with cams in the intake range of 236 and still clearing so I don't know why a g6x3 would have any issues with tfs heads. I think the guy i talked to at lg just wanted to get off the phone

0Anthony @ LGMotorsports

I'm pretty sure you do have to fly cut it if you mill down to 59cc on the head. I'm going to have to double check my numbers (at home right now) when I get back in the office. We do more AFR heads than anything so the TrickFlow heads I don't recall off the top of my head, so I don't want to stick my foot in my mouth.

Joe_G

Do you guys have any results for the g5x3 and afr's or trick flows? I'm very happy with my g5 and wouldn't change it unless the results were dramatic...

sthornburg

Problems with the meth kit....nothing to do with the heads. Hats off to HSC and LG Motorspots for helping me resolve the issues quickly, as well as Snow Performane for keeping the build moving forward.

Waiting for the final results is driving me insane.

C6nexttime

Perhaps maybe if you go to 59cc but I thinkg you might be able to get away with it if you just mill a little, 62cc for example. Friend is getting the g6x3 so I am looking forward to seeing the results.

0Anthony @ LGMotorsports

Should be able to have final numbers for you Monday sometime. Sorry if I bombed your email with dyno's on Friday but I knew you wanted to see updates as I went with it.

0Anthony @ LGMotorsports

Andrew (DSC3000) on the board has an LS2 with the G6X3/TF/FAST and he is throwing down 503/456 to the tire with a nitrous tune and no spray. I want to say we have hit a little higher on his car but that is close to what I remember his car making.

I have done a number of AFR/G5X3/FAST combo's that will put down 490-501 rwhp. AFR's typically make 10-20 more ft-lbs of torque in the 1500-3500 RPM range over the TF at least from what I have seen. PEAK numbers are pretty close to each other.

Depends on the setup if you would pick up with the G6X3 over the G5X3 cam and also where you want to pick up the power.

Joe_G

Good advice Anthony, thanks.

C7&7

Substring. Interested in the results. Doing TF225s soon and was thinking about changing to a bigger cam as well.

SpinMonster

That surprises me because the AFR 225 was always an underacheiver in the low end TQ and Tony Mamo himself says that. The 205 was awesome but I only used it for one car.

The 225 is now the 230 V2 and it did have a good show on PatrickG's car but with the converter unlocked for the dyno, it had pretty weak Tq numbers. I was waiting to see results for the new head before recomending it to people.

I'll credit your findings.

sthornburg

Please do not apologize Anthony....all info relative to progress is appreciated and THANKS for keeping me updated!

A large number of people are following this thread and I can assure you that no one is more interested in progress than me.......Monday cannot come soon enough!

SpinMonster

The G6 is on a really tight LSA and that kills clearance. A 236 on a 114 will have more clearance than the G6. This is why I dont like secret cam specs. A 236 on a 114 will drive much tamer.

I dont design max effort cams. I refer others to tuner cams like the G6 if all they care about is dyno results. That may not fit what your looking for but many will look at the dyno results tomorrow and compare it to max effort high overlap cams as the only criteria.

Compression is key to low end TQ. This cam will run near 12:1 on pump gas without issue with meth being the safety factor raising octane. 1/2 a point in compression is about 8HP and 10Tq to the wheels at the peaks. The G6 cam closes the intake valve much sooner for boosting TQ with a given static compression but this comes at a price. I think your results will be about 485/435 which would be 495/445 with stock gears at 11.5 compression (lower than I think it should be--nearer 12:1). This represents a boost of about 25rwtq over your last cam while maintaining the exact same overlap, thus driving the same. If you bump compression it would get you in the 490's with tq in the 440 range. That would be 500/450 if it was a stock geared car. This hits your power goal with added TQ.

0Anthony @ LGMotorsports

No no...I'm talking the older 205 AFR. I never ran the 225 unless it was at least a 427 engine. Even on big cam'd 402 builds the 205 made more total HP and TQ given every thing else the same.

LSCHLEM

Just a slight correction here ANDREW "DSP300" put 525RW to the tires. Thats quite a bit more than 503 which quite a few out there have achieved. He is running TFS 61CC / G6X3 and
.024 would have been shaved off this TFS head on a straight cut to arrive at 61cc or .036 shaved to arrive at 59.5cc. In spite of the size
of the g6x3 I dont think he needed to flycut but would like to know
if He did. Anthony I wish you could clarify as it was a LGM build. Leon

0Anthony @ LGMotorsports

I thought he did more as well....I just pulled some numbers from the dyno day some time back. His dyno folder is pretty good size